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  • 04-22-2014, 05:24 AM
    SxB_xPUDDYTATx
    Trion - Please do not ignore this post
    i have taken a lot of time to go through these forums to compile what i am about to post. i would kindly asak that someone from trion take the time to read it.

    Thank you in advance!!!


    i know your busy, but...
    these are links to my posts about ammo reserves. it seems that they have all been ignored, although many people i have spoken with feel the same way i do. you answer was to increase ammo drops, which i have not really noticed in game, and i do not feel has solved the problem.
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...em-new-example
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...ing-for-a-week...
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...r-ammo-reserve
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...Need-More-Ammo

    stop ruining our equipment
    there are very few weapons and shields that are of any value in the defiance economy. the people i play with on ps3 work hard to aquire what they have, and im sure that the pc and xbox players do too. its extremely insulting to all of us when you take items we have spent so much time/scrip/time trading for or pulling ourselves and destroy the value of it.

    speaking of which...
    i know for a fact that two of my friends, overtkill21 and chump norris, both asked repeatedly about the respark 5. the one thing that made it valuable was its low delay. in the case of many players, the respark 5 was a very valuable item to have. with your shield change in dlc5 you ruined the value of the respark 5, as well as all "5" shields, not to mention the epic rhino 4 that i loved so much became ark salvage immediatly after the patch. i personally never saw or heard of your response to this situation, and what your plans were to remedy this blatant disregard for a community concern.
    suggestion: add 1 plate of armor to all "5" shields and ark shields
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...4-Delay-now-!-!

    weapon egos and arkforge
    there was a huge outpouring from the community for our weapons to be leveled to our current ego at the time of dlc5. not only did you ignore the community wishes, you never answered the question asked by so many as to why you would not give us a 100% ego match. but you made it very apparent with the inclusion of arkforge in the game, and the fact that although it is available from lockboxes and events, it is only in very small quantities. you created a system that rendered the majority of our weapons useless unless they were raised up in ego, then put our main source for leveling our items in the bit store for a ridiculous price. once again, this is insulting to the people that have given you so much of their time over the last 12 months.
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...s-are-pathetic!
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...nough-Arkforge

    are you going to update daily/weekly arkhunter reward boxes
    its been asked by many people, and i have yet to see or hear an answer. will arkforge and/or corileum cores be added to the daily and weekly reward boxes?

    just because i thought this was a great post that should have gotten an answer...
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...oughts-on-DLC5

    another great idea...
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...is-directed-to

    this makes a lot of sense in a way
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...0-Why-should-I
    thanks to the new scaling system, there is really no reason for new players to ever level up. no reason to play hours of pvp to get the echelon contracts or pursuits. no reason to grind for better gums or keys or arkforge. why should you really put any effort into it when there are so many ego 5000+ players around who spent the last year working their ***** off. all you have to do is tag along with one of them and you too can automatically be ego 5000 rfn!!!

    wish i could find the thread...
    someone posted a thread about shotgun mag mods. it was a great point. a tier 4 mag mod gives you x1.20 ammo. you have to have 5 shots in the mag in order for that mod to work, and that is tier 4 (raises the mag cap to 6). i cannot find the thread, although im sure it was never answered, but will this mod be changed to a +1, +2, +3, and +4 in the future, or will this remain a useless mod in the game.

    long road to get to where we started
    there was a time that the rarity and ego of a grenade meant a lot. higher egos and rarities were worth more, and did considerably more damage/effects than the lesser variants. then, well, you know what happened. now it seems that we are right back where we started from. i only bring this up because i wonder if anyone in the head office ever stopped and thought "maybe we should have left em alone to begin with".

    huge shoutout to ironhide, this should have been said weeks ago
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...k-for-a-moment....

    im tired, and its late/early, and i need sleep. im sorry if i overlooked any threads that should have been responded to and werent. i apologize if i overlooked a great idea or an honest question. ive read page after page on the forums tonight and im sure that i skipped right over a few by mistake. i would have also loved to have been able to list the names of all the great community voices who have left the forum and/or the game because not because the game was bad, but because they felt ignored by the company.

    i would also repectfully ask and welcome the community to add to this thread. please post any links to threads that you feel should have had more validation, be it yours or someone elses.

    lastly, i ask that you keep it respectful. we as a community have a common goal. to play defiance and enjoy the game, as well as the people we meet while playing. it doesnt matter if your pc, ps3, or xbox. it doesnt matter if your NA or EU, if your ego 100 or 5000. we all play the same game. we all have concerns. its time for the community to get together and get the answers we deserve
  • 04-22-2014, 05:42 AM
    oasis387
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN99jshaQbY
  • 04-22-2014, 05:43 AM
    Ironhide
    Well said and collects the most recent and pending questions. Would be nice if Kiwi could pop in for a quick update on patch1.503 and some answers.
  • 04-22-2014, 05:57 AM
    stefb42
    I have a gripe on the arkforge, they said they were limiting it to 1000 af per account so you couldn't use your other chars arkforge on your main or something along these lines, so today i was selling a VOT Pulser above my ego to another player, it was ego 4900 and i offered to make it 5000 before selling it, my ego is 45xx, well guess what? wouldn't let me upgrade it, only option available was to add mods, obviously wasn't equipped as it was above my ego, so it looks like we can't level weapons above our ego

    so again why was the 1000AF per account and not per character?
  • 04-22-2014, 06:20 AM
    Newbe
    Great Job OP!
    Thank you for your efforts to go thru the rants, suggestions, and vented frustration to put together a structured, well thought out post. Yours sounds like a clan I would like to be a part of.
  • 04-22-2014, 07:05 AM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ironhide View Post
    Would be nice if Kiwi could pop in for a quick update on patch1.503 and some answers.

    This usually helps lure her in... ;)

    http://blogs.harrisonhigh.org/robin_...0gif%20fav.gif
  • 04-22-2014, 07:16 AM
    Lucent
    Thanks for this post compilation. This really does address the majority of game mechanic concerns the community has.
  • 04-22-2014, 07:42 AM
    dramaQkarri
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    This usually helps lure her in... ;)

    http://blogs.harrisonhigh.org/robin_...0gif%20fav.gif

    Should work - it's only 7:45 a.m. on the west coast so hopefully soon Kiwi will be awake and ALL OVER THIS!

    Great info OP, lots of research. Thanks for not giving up or giving in!
  • 04-22-2014, 07:43 AM
    Festival
    Superb, OP.
  • 04-22-2014, 09:41 AM
    Lenny732
    Bump for interest!
  • 04-22-2014, 09:53 AM
    Bonehead
    Great post OP.

    Now for Kiwi's bat signal...

    http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/...psf35408d2.gif
  • 04-22-2014, 10:20 AM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dramaQkarri View Post
    <snip> it's only 7:45 a.m. on the west coast so hopefully soon Kiwi will be awake and ALL OVER THIS!

    Yeah, and it must be nice... by the time it's 7:45am Central, I've almost put in an hour's worth of work on the day. :rolleyes:
  • 04-22-2014, 11:16 AM
    TremerChrist
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    Yeah, and it must be nice... by the time it's 7:45am Central, I've almost put in an hour's worth of work on the day. :rolleyes:

    It is the west coast. Doesn't everyone hug five trees before work everyday.
  • 04-22-2014, 11:35 AM
    Overtkill21
    I just wanna...

    http://gifs.gifbin.com/reverse-400sw74223.gif
  • 04-22-2014, 11:36 AM
    Bleuford
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    This usually helps lure her in... ;)

    http://blogs.harrisonhigh.org/robin_...0gif%20fav.gif

    That's not going to work. Pfffft... You need one of these....

    http://www.yardenvy.com/images/pz/23...ird-feeder.jpg
  • 04-22-2014, 11:37 AM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TremerChrist View Post
    It is the west coast. Doesn't everyone hug five trees before work everyday.

    No idea, exactly... perhaps a few of the west coast peeps 'round here can elaborate?


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bleuford View Post
    That's not going to work. Pfffft... You need one of these....

    Pfffft... the PM that I received from her would prove otherwise.
  • 04-22-2014, 11:51 AM
    Dehlert
    we don't need private pm's to players.. we need mass announcements for all to see
  • 04-22-2014, 12:05 PM
    dramaQkarri
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    Yeah, and it must be nice... by the time it's 7:45am Central, I've almost put in an hour's worth of work on the day. :rolleyes:

    OK that's just gross, overachiever. My start time is 8:15 and it's equally gross. I'm a GAMER that means late hours, LOL.
  • 04-22-2014, 12:07 PM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dramaQkarri View Post
    OK that's just gross, overachiever. My start time is 8:15 and it's equally gross. I'm a GAMER that means late hours, LOL.

    Hey now... I was up until almost 1:30am playing games last night. With older age, comes the advantage of being able to survive on something around 5 hours of sleep.
  • 04-22-2014, 12:11 PM
    r2nddan
    This one usually gets a response:

    Wow! I really love everything about this game. I'm loving the new patch. It's great. I'm so happy. Rainbows. Fanboi here. peace love and happiness please. thank you!
  • 04-22-2014, 12:29 PM
    CM Kiwibird
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bonehead View Post
    Now for Kiwi's bat signal...

    http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/...psf35408d2.gif

    Aw, you definitely know how to draw me into a thread. Okay, here we go.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SxB_xPUDDYTATx View Post
    these are links to my posts about ammo reserves. it seems that they have all been ignored, although many people i have spoken with feel the same way i do. you answer was to increase ammo drops, which i have not really noticed in game, and i do not feel has solved the problem.

    I asked about this. The goal here was to make it so that you have to make risk assessment choices between dealing damage and survival/supplies. I will pass along this feedback, though.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SxB_xPUDDYTATx View Post
    the question asked by so many as to why you would not give us a 100% ego match.

    The 75% EGO rating boost to all weapons in inventory was a means to assure that upgrading your favorite weapons to your current level was possible with either the arkforge provided by Arktech Revolution or with some forays into advanced and expert instances. I was able to confirm that a 100% boost was never the intention there.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SxB_xPUDDYTATx View Post
    will arkforge and/or corileum cores be added to the daily and weekly reward boxes?

    Caeruleum Core are intended to be endgame currency for high performance in difficult scenarios. It isn't something that is going to be added to daily/weekly reward boxes because it is supposed to be endgame currency. Edited for accuracy, I apologize for the confusion on my part.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SxB_xPUDDYTATx View Post
    the one thing that made it valuable was its low delay.

    Scapes responded directly about this before. See below:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scapes View Post
    The previous delay was a typo. We've corrected it to the legendary buff that it should be.

    Asked Trick about it and confirmed again, the previous delay was a typo and not intentional. I know this isn't the answer y'all were hoping for, but I'd rather be direct and let you know what I was able to confirm on our end. As for why it was changed, it was originally a typo, and as such they adjusted it to reflect the value that they originally intended. Regarding the suggestion of adding 1 plate of armor, I'll pass that along as well.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ironhide View Post
    I know they are working on it, but there hasn't been any real contact or answers from the Defiance staff since Saturday pretty much. We need some updates

    I'll try to provide more updates as we go, I'm sorry for my absence. I do know that this is a rough patch right now, and I (and others) will be around to provide updates. I'm off on Sunday and Monday for future reference, but I am normally still lurking around here despite that.

    We definitely don't want there to be no reason for users to level up. I'll go ahead and reference this post again, but I'm sure you have already read it at this point. We are working to address the issues that users with low EGO ratings are encountering, and we're working to make the open world experience easier.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SxB_xPUDDYTATx View Post
    lastly, i ask that you keep it respectful. we as a community have a common goal. to play defiance and enjoy the game, as well as the people we meet while playing. it doesnt matter if your pc, ps3, or xbox. it doesnt matter if your NA or EU, if your ego 100 or 5000. we all play the same game. we all have concerns. its time for the community to get together and get the answers we deserve [/B]

    Thank you. I really appreciate that, and thank you again for being patient while I wrote up my response to this. :o
  • 04-22-2014, 12:35 PM
    Overtkill21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird View Post
    ...Scapes responded directly about this before. See below:

    Asked Trick about it and confirmed again, the previous delay was a typo and not intentional. I know this isn't the answer y'all were hoping for, but I'd rather be direct and let you know what I was able to confirm on our end. As for why it was changed, it was originally a typo, and as such they adjusted it to reflect the value that they originally intended. Regarding the suggestion of adding 1 plate of armor, I'll pass that along as well...

    You are absolutely right, this was not the answer I was hoping for considering it is either bold faced deception or complete lack of comprehension.

    The original was NOT a typo - if the devs would take a look at how Shield Progression was supposed to work then they would understand why a "V" shield had one value better than all other variants (on Resparks & Rebels this value was the delay, on Hurricanes & Tachyons it was the Recharge %, and on Rhinos & Ironclads it was the Capacity.).

    Why did it have this extreme single value? Because it was making up for what it lacked - both a nano resistance and a bonus stat.

    This is a complete garbage answer and to expect me, or other players, to believe it shows very little respect for your players.
  • 04-22-2014, 12:37 PM
    Overtkill21
    WHOOPS - Double post.
  • 04-22-2014, 12:39 PM
    Ironhide
    No problem, had made a thread too the Puddytat made reference to. We all were patient just the update thing was more in reference to something you had came on today and gave an update to the 1.503 patch. Of course I had made that post Yesterday around 9 ish. Since we didn't have patchnote updates on the Screen upon logging in none of us could be certain that 1.503 patch had been applied, since apparently it was server side.
  • 04-22-2014, 12:48 PM
    swat brigade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Overtkill21 View Post
    You are absolutely right, this was not the answer I was hoping for considering it is bold faced deception.

    The original was NOT a typo - if these devs would take a look at how Shield Progression was supposed to work then they would understand why a V shield had one value better than all other variants. Because it was making up for what it lacked - a nano resistance and a bonus stat.

    This is a complete garbage answer and to expect me, or other players, to believe it shows very little respect for your players.

    Wow... flat out disrespect. This is my last time I will ever visit these forums..I can't stand the few negative *******s that flood these forums with their negative ********. And anytime you try and defend the game you receive infractions...makes a lot of sense. I love the game and will continue to play it daily. My suggestion would be to the devs , join clan chats of some of the biggest clans and talk to the people actually playing the games and get advice on what needs to be fixed or adjusted by active, experienced players. We wouldn't lie to them. These forums are flooded with people that have no clue of what they are talking about. I had a guy tell me I didn't know what I was talking about yesterday but today he doesn't even know how the rep system works.. The negativity has pushed me away. I never hear any of this crap in clan chat and occasionally see someone complaining in game chat. Defiance is a great game and the way it has been changed is for the best, yes a few things need to be tweaked but overall it's way better. This is my opinion. If you wanna get your last word or stupid meme in go right ahead. I won't see it.
  • 04-22-2014, 12:52 PM
    CM Kiwibird
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ironhide View Post
    Since we didn't have patchnote updates on the Screen upon logging in none of us could be certain that 1.503 patch had been applied, since apparently it was server side.

    Completely understand the confusion there. Sorry about that.

    Regarding Overtkill21's comment, all Respark V items were supposed to share that regeneration rate.

    For Swat brigade, you're welcome to defend the game or otherwise express your opinion, but don't attack other people in the process please. Calling other players names does not encourage further discussion, and while I understand that you're frustrated right now, doing this just encourages the other player to respond with aggression.
  • 04-22-2014, 12:56 PM
    Overtkill21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swat brigade View Post
    Wow... flat out disrespect...

    and then proceeds to curse at forum goers...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swat brigade View Post
    ...And anytime you try and defend the game you receive infractions...makes a lot of sense...

    openly wonders why he'd be infracted

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swat brigade View Post
    ...My suggestion would be to the devs , join clan chats of some of the biggest clans and talk to the people actually playing the games and get advice on what needs to be fixed or adjusted by active, experienced players. We wouldn't lie to them. These forums are flooded with people that have no clue of what they are talking about...

    Suggests that those of us on the forum are liars and know-nothings.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swat brigade View Post
    This is my last time I will ever visit these forums...The negativity has pushed me away...

    What a loss...
  • 04-22-2014, 12:57 PM
    rebtattoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ironhide View Post
    No problem, had made a thread too the Puddytat made reference to. We all were patient just the update thing was more in reference to something you had came on today and gave an update to the 1.503 patch. Of course I had made that post Yesterday around 9 ish. Since we didn't have patchnote updates on the Screen upon logging in none of us could be certain that 1.503 patch had been applied, since apparently it was server side.

    If it was, it didn't work. Several of us are still only scoring 5-10% what we normally do at sieges. Enemies are still phasing in and out. Damage can't be inflicted, but sure as hell can be dealt! Glorious feeling, being killed by, nothing!

    Scaling is still out of whack. Across the damned game. Interesting that when I'm alone at diablo for the daily, I can finish it in less than 10 minutes. Archers take a max of 6 hits to down. Add one person, 1 person. That same archer now requires 2 full clips!

    History is our guide. It'll be fixed by June. or, swept under the rug for a few months after that. Meh....
  • 04-22-2014, 01:04 PM
    dramaQkarri
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swat brigade View Post
    Wow... flat out disrespect. This is my last time I will ever visit these forums..I can't stand the few negative *******s that flood these forums with their negative ********. And anytime you try and defend the game you receive infractions...makes a lot of sense. I love the game and will continue to play it daily. My suggestion would be to the devs , join clan chats of some of the biggest clans and talk to the people actually playing the games and get advice on what needs to be fixed or adjusted by active, experienced players. We wouldn't lie to them. These forums are flooded with people that have no clue of what they are talking about. I had a guy tell me I didn't know what I was talking about yesterday but today he doesn't even know how the rep system works.. The negativity has pushed me away. I never hear any of this crap in clan chat and occasionally see someone complaining in game chat. Defiance is a great game and the way it has been changed is for the best, yes a few things need to be tweaked but overall it's way better. This is my opinion. If you wanna get your last word or stupid meme in go right ahead. I won't see it.

    This guy again. Pot calling the kettle black. Massive negativity here - yes you've been defending the game, but completely intolerant of those people that criticize the game. If you received an infraction I can guess it had to do with your relentless attacks telling many of us we "didn't know what we were talking about". Several times. You sir, are the epitome of disrespect toward your fellow gamers, especially us casuals. We will not miss you.

    Incidentally, the forums are filled with plenty of people that play the game regularly. IMHO, a lot of good people here. Some wacko's for sure but for the most part I've gotten great advice here over the past year from players. So here I am, defending the community.

    We've also lost a lot of great contributors and I don't know quite where they are lately, but they've all been helpful too.

    Unfortunately, DLC 5 drove a lot of people off the game and off the forums. Check it, kiwi - we're missing a LOT of formerly regulars here on forums since 4/15. It's about time Trion considered the huge mistake DLC 5 is, and was, and someone better be looking at numbers - players and forum visitors. It's not an anomaly, it's a trend. I really, really hope Trick and his team are aware of the facts.

    And regarding big PS3 clans that play a lot (still today!) and are involved, I'm in one of them - Infamous. I'll be lookin' out for our former forum friend on PS3 too, when I get back in the game on 4/29. You can bet on that!
  • 04-22-2014, 01:05 PM
    Overtkill21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird View Post
    ...Regarding Overtkill21's comment, all Respark V items were supposed to share that regeneration rate.

    So that has been corrected by making every single Respark that is Orange, all III's, IV's, and V's have the same regeneration rate without regard to shield balance?
  • 04-22-2014, 01:11 PM
    Shadesmith
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird View Post


    Those are intended to be endgame currency for high performance in difficult scenarios. It isn't something that is going to be added to daily/weekly reward boxes because it is supposed to be endgame currency.

    :o

    If it supposed to be arkforge currency.. sigh.. that makes no sense. None at all. Weapons now scale with level if you're fortunate enough to have the arkforge to do it. So as you go from Ego 1 to Ego 5000 (or whatever "endgame" is supposed to start at) you don't need to level your weapons at all? You'll be automatically scaled to the appropriate level for the content your facing.. IF the system worked. Which again, as stated in other sections of this very same post, means that it is a total waste of time to level at all, since you'll automatically be scaled up to the level of the people around you. OF course this should include your weapons damage output (it doesnt) and your shield's ability to absorb damage (it wont).

    The whole reason this thing doesnt work is that it was applied to open world, where people of nearly every ego level run around together. Its not limited to a new area, or a rework zone of an old area, its all IN THE SAME PLACE. Which means, no matter how you slice it, serve it, or try to present it, your going to run into the same problem. Arkforge is bunk. The idea is bunk as is.

    It. Does. Not. Work. As. Intended.

    The way it works now is people with high Ego are still people with high ego. They have 40 or 80+ perks opened up, they can adjust, they can tweak the build, they can do the "endgame" and gather the arkforge (which is dropped in feeble amounts, leading to an insane amount of farming.. which is only so fun for so long) and continue to say how great the changes are, and how it isnt really a problem, etc etc. (Not that all of them do, but I see enough of it to think this is more common than any of us would like to admit).

    People with low ego are : 1 word here : Screwed.

    They do not have 40-80+ perks to adjust, they do not have access to the arkforge as they cannot farm it without LOTS of help, they do not have the great weapons or shields, nor the funds to get them. Their only chance? Either go at it alone, with no one else anywhere around (which we all know does NOT happen), so that the threat level stays at something they have a reasonable expectation of handling, OR get into a group with someone with a high enough ego (AND knows what the hell he/she is doing), and be really, really good as well as really lucky. Otherwise they end up at the rez-point constantly, or even worse, stuck at the rez-point getting facerolled by NPC mobs.

    The savior? In the current setup? Spend you dollars on Bits! You too can be a super duper ark hunter! Just spend $300 in the Bit store to get all the Arkforge your Ego 500 character could ever need! Then you can run around with your Ego 5000 buddies, collect all the loot you need, add that 0 to your Ego score, and be rolling in it Just Like Them! <Done in the Clone Wars Announcer Voice>

    The current system, in effect, has turned the game into a PAY-2-WIN setup. Not doing it. I paid up when I bought the game ($60), bought the season pass ($40), and bought storage ($25). Which I would have done more of for Season 2 had the DLPs not been such a disappointment leading to a massive fail for DLP5.

    Fix. This. Mess.

    Shadesmith.
  • 04-22-2014, 01:43 PM
    CM Kiwibird
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Overtkill21 View Post
    So that has been corrected by making every single Respark that is Orange, all III's, IV's, and V's have the same regeneration rate without regard to shield balance?

    I checked with the team, and all Orange Resparks are supposed to have the same base stats by design.
  • 04-22-2014, 01:50 PM
    Deunan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird View Post
    I asked about this. The goal here was to make it so that you have to make risk assessment choices between dealing damage and survival/supplies.

    http://www.underealm.com/galleries/n...ke%20Bunny.jpg

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird View Post
    Those are intended to be endgame currency for high performance in difficult scenarios. It isn't something that is going to be added to daily/weekly reward boxes because it is supposed to be endgame currency.

    If it's supposed to be endgame currency then why is it necessary for game mechanics that have absolutely nothing to do with endgame content? Upgrading power rating to maintain weapons isn't endgame activity. Change it so that upgrading requires salvage which has always been the game currency for using the Salvage Matrix. Sorry Kiwibird, I know you're just the messenger in this but let's not kid ourselves, it's not endgame currency.

    Arkforge is a new form of non-endgame currency implemented to induce sales at the bit store for it by slowing down player gear progression for everyone in the game that doesn't purchase it with bits. I can understand why that's not something that anyone from the company would want to admit, but the sooner players understand why Arkforge is the way it is, the sooner they will stop making pointless attempts to advocate for more ways to get Arkforge in the game or for the current rewards to be increased from their existing in game sources.
  • 04-22-2014, 02:05 PM
    Bonehead
    Well, on the bright side, they didn't ignore the post!
  • 04-22-2014, 02:06 PM
    dramaQkarri
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deunan View Post
    http://www.underealm.com/galleries/n...ke%20Bunny.jpg

    If it's supposed to be endgame currency then why is it necessary for game mechanics that have absolutely nothing to do with endgame content? Upgrading power rating to maintain weapons isn't endgame activity. Change it so that upgrading requires salvage which has always been the game currency for using the Salvage Matrix. Sorry Kiwibird, I know you're just the messenger in this but let's not kid ourselves, it's not endgame currency.

    Arkforge is a new form of non-endgame currency implemented to induce sales at the bit store for it by slowing down player gear progression for everyone in the game that doesn't purchase it with bits. I can understand why that's not something that anyone from the company would want to admit, but the sooner players understand why Arkforge is the way it is, the sooner they will stop making pointless attempts to advocate for more ways to get Arkforge in the game or for the current rewards to be increased from their existing in game sources.

    In other words, WE'RE NOT BUYING IT! The player base is wise enough to know when we're being manipulated. Poor Kiwi, being forced to peddle this BS to us.

    I'm sitting here going, what? what? what? What ENDGAME, for crissakes?! mekka no sense. MMO's don't end, that's part of the design. Now all of a sudden you're trying to get us to believe there's some end game? The show isn't ending, or at least it has a second season. We all have seen the feeble attempts to lock us out of content by these lottery-based DLC's where we get practically no rep and no decent stuff when we do spend our rep. It's ridiculous for The Company to think they can bamboozle us into spending money on a game designed to do only one thing - separate us from our hard earned money.

    We are under a new design team and I'd bet my EYETEETH that the previous design team and SyFy had no such "design" in mind.

    Endgame my @##.
  • 04-22-2014, 02:12 PM
    Overtkill21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird View Post
    I checked with the team, and all Orange Resparks are supposed to have the same base stats by design.

    So we're talking Trick's design here correct?

    Because that IS NOT how they were originally designed.

    Having "all Orange Resparks...have the same base stats by design" is a rather remarkable demonstration of ignorance of the concept of balance on the part of the current developers. The original developers had spent time to balance capacity, stat bonuses, recharge delays, and recharge rates on shields so that the choice was a truly tactical one and no one shield was left either completely obsolete or overpowered.

    The current developers have now done exactly that; created entirely obsolete shields and overpowered shields.

    This is an unacceptable change that shows how little the current developers understand this game and also sheds a lot of light on why we're experiencing the problems that we are with this latest Downloadable Patch.
  • 04-22-2014, 02:17 PM
    Tsort
    Trion: "oops, looks like there was a typo with the shields, let's fix this."
    Players: *go out of their way to explain why this seems weird*
    Trion: "it was just a typo"
    Players: *carefully detail why this doesn't make sense*
    Trion: "Yes, shields aren't balanced, that's by design."
    Players: *apex facepalm*
  • 04-22-2014, 02:17 PM
    dramaQkarri
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Overtkill21 View Post
    So we're talking Trick's design here correct?

    Because that IS NOT how they were originally designed.

    Having "all Orange Resparks...have the same base stats by design" is a rather remarkable demonstration of ignorance of the concept of balance on the part of the current developers. The original developers had spent time to balance capacity, stat bonuses, recharge delays, and recharge rates on shields so that the choice was a truly tactical one and no one shield was left either completely obsolete or overpowered.

    The current developers have now done exactly that; created entirely obsolete shields and overpowered shields.

    This is an unacceptable change that shows how little the current developers understand this game and also sheds a lot of light on why we're experiencing the problems that we are with this latest Downloadable Patch.

    It's as if no one on the design team has had any experience with gaming whatsoever. Not just a lack of understanding Defiance, but a lack of understanding games at ALL. Fun, playability, addiction all get people to spend their money.

    Offending their intelligence and changing everything about the game in a fundamental way does not get people to spend their money. We are put off by this kind of treatment. It's amazing to think anyone at The Company actually thought this mess would work.
  • 04-22-2014, 02:20 PM
    Holy Bahamut3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deunan View Post
    http://www.underealm.com/galleries/n...ke%20Bunny.jpg

    If it's supposed to be endgame currency then why is it necessary for game mechanics that have absolutely nothing to do with endgame content? Upgrading power rating to maintain weapons isn't endgame activity. Change it so that upgrading requires salvage which has always been the game currency for using the Salvage Matrix. Sorry Kiwibird, I know you're just the messenger in this but let's not kid ourselves, it's not endgame currency.

    Arkforge is a new form of non-endgame currency implemented to induce sales at the bit store for it by slowing down player gear progression for everyone in the game that doesn't purchase it with bits. I can understand why that's not something that anyone from the company would want to admit, but the sooner players understand why Arkforge is the way it is, the sooner they will stop making pointless attempts to advocate for more ways to get Arkforge in the game or for the current rewards to be increased from their existing in game sources.

    Another idea that would work, but will never be considered by the devs is having the AF level the weapon to our current EGO's, thus making them useful again. 100 EGO units at a time is just too few...
  • 04-22-2014, 02:25 PM
    bk_707
    I just want to add that at least minor arkbreaks need to look at the number of players in there and not just their combined egos when determining the number and level of the enemies that are spawned. As it is now small groups are completely overwhelmed by the numbers of enemies.

    I've also noticed that (at least in the open world) when you are killing something, and another player joins in (or passes by close enough) the hit points and sometimes the shields regenerate, usually to full.

    This seems really unfair, for example I was doing an emergency and was down to killing the Monarch, the hit point bar was just about gone when a friend joined me and the hit points went back to the max. I'm guessing this has something to do with scaling.

    My suggestion here is instead of bumping it all the way back up, to bump it to the same percent of the higher level enemy. This would also work when high levels leave an area so the remaining low egos aren't overwhelmed. ie, the enemy is Ark at 40% health and needs to be rescaled because high egos leave the area for what ever reason, then then enemy could become say Evolved with 40% health. This could also work in reverse. That way enemies don't continue to be OP and/or UP.
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