When a dictator takes over they want the strong minority to leave so that they can rule over the weak effortlessly. Don't leave. Stand up and fight! this is our game and we demand that you fix it trion. Please?
oh and hurry up!
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When a dictator takes over they want the strong minority to leave so that they can rule over the weak effortlessly. Don't leave. Stand up and fight! this is our game and we demand that you fix it trion. Please?
oh and hurry up!
that would make sense if Trion, Trick and Devs hadnt been running this game for the last year..
that would make sense if the "strong" actually left.
that would make sense if they werent doing anything to solve the gaps in the game.
3 patches in the 1st week + 1 that wouldve/will change the game to be even better... Well, id way theyre working fast.
Insignificant patches that haven't fixed anything and a patch that was embarrassly pulled back. Yeah great point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevota
the patches have been making it better, and my personal tactics. If you don't have skill you don't have a place in this game anymore......ego up, it gets betterQuote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
I am ego 4200. Does it get more fun? Does Dekuso not dissappear when you are higher ego? Do all my useless legendaries become useful? Do i stop getting disconnected? Wow sir thank you. I can't wait to get higher ego...Quote:
Originally Posted by ConcreteSnake
i.e. Casual. Unfortunately you are right, and that's a shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by ConcreteSnake
Actually, this game is a joke as far as skill goes. Im not complaining because its difficult. Im complaining because it isn't fun. Gears of war multiplayer, halo etc are difficult but fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by BJWyler
This patch has turned this game into a hot mess. or hotter mess i should say.
This, and we removed 1.504 because it was causing latency/disconnect issues. We are working to improve Defiance. If you don't want to acknowledge that, that's okay and you're definitely entitled to your opinion, but please keep your posts respectful at the very least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevota
Respectful is a relative term i guess. If you would be kind enough to show me disrespect in this thread, I would appreciate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
Comparing a company or a person to a dictator or dictatorship is generally considered disrespectful. You're also implying that we want you to leave, which isn't the case. I wouldn't be in this thread or making an effort to address concerns if I didn't want people to stick around or if I didn't care about Defiance.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
The comparison was meant to compare what people sometimes do instead of fighting to fix something or a country. they leave instead of fighting for change. I don't think your company is a dictatorship. I apologize if you took it that way. I'm just sick of people saying they're leaving. They should stay and demand to get what they want. The customer is always right. right?Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
That's a bit harsh but it's their game I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by ConcreteSnake
Just a heads up Kiwi, since the application and removeal if patch 1.504 the PS3 seems to be having issues still. As in multiple and frequent disconnects, I had 3 in a row and did nothing more than open my inventory or look in a vendor at the Crater after coming back before i was disconnected again.Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
We also have had problems with Enemies blinking in and out of exestance at arkfalls. The last Dark Matter Arkfall they were doing that. Get a hit on them, they blink out, and then only reappear for a split second before they died. The Monolith was doing that as well. Try dodging it when it jumps and you cant see it.
Also been having trouble with vehicles disappearing. I've noticed it several times as I'm coming down the hill from Shondus. Just outside the gate and before the dirt ramp. It does it 7 out of 10 times I would say.
You know when your about to lag out, because if you try to go into your inventory, pull up a map, loose your HUD or it takes 2 minutes to pull up a vendor inventory. So hopefully that will help in pinpointing the problem.
This to a lesser degree on 360.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironhide
Hey, Trion is trying, very trying.
Thanks for the hard work Kiwi. You have a tough job and you do it well.Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
It's fine with me, personally if the target audience has shifted I'd just like to be told straight out so I can pack my bags and leave without any regrets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonehead
I've enjoyed plenty of difficulty in other games, I pride myself on Touhou Lunatic completion but Defiance was a game where I came to relax and enjoy my time with friends.
They don't have to be faceroll quality enemies but I typically like my grunts to die in 2-5 headshots from a bolt action sniper rifle.
It IS their game but I feel like I have a failing relationship with Defiance, we took some time apart a while ago because things were getting stale, we got back together and I find out Defiance has changed a LOT from what I knew.
Of course you care! (only being my slightly sarcastic self - you have been doing an excellent job thus far and I don't envy your position during this time). However, as I mentioned in my post in another thread (which I have linked in my sig), I don't understand how Trion thought that these changes going through (and the lack of a proper testing time) would do anything BUT cause many players to leave. When a game undergoes a fundamental change like this (dare we begin an new catch phrase such as SWGing or EONing it?) that kind of result has got to be expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
On another note - I sent you a PM in regards to the 4/18 livestream giveaways a day or two ago - just wanted to make sure you were aware, as I am sure you have been quite the busy bird lately. I also sent a copy to Morgana today, just in case. Thanks!
Well, not necessarily (coming from someone who put a lot of time into the customer service industry). Personally speaking, when talking about a game, I think people should play it for what it is and not demand it be changed to suit them, as we have seen in the last year with Defiance before 1.5. Certainly, now that it has been changed, I think those of us who have been here and enjoying it for the past year should certainly make our feelings known (which is why I am still here on the forums, despite having no desire to play the game any more - and haven't since the day of the patch practically speaking), but if this is to be the permanent direction of the game from here on out, I will also be bowing out of the forums sooner rather than later.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
I appreciate that, but that is the comparison that was made, and it isn't exactly a respectful comparison. A better way to go about that would be to just remove the dictatorship part.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
I can understand rallying, though. The "I'm leaving" posts aren't constructive or helpful. However, fighting on the forums isn't helpful either, and that circles back to my sharknado post earlier.
I know you're frustrated, but the developers are people that put many, many hours into Defiance. Attacking them on the forums does not make them work faster or more effectively.
The above is less directed at you and more a general public statement, because I do see a lot of attacks go down. Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't voice your concerns, and I won't ask you to drop a subject that you're passionate about. I am going to ask that you not attack others in the process.
Thank you, Ironhide. I appreciate the report and I'll start investigating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironhide
For the record, I am not leaving or giving up.
NO SHARKNADOS!!!
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http://i.imgur.com/7ORvACq.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Bonehead
1. Yes it doesQuote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
2. I usually beat Dekuso in about 30 seconds with a ground pounder
3. I just picked 8 items to level with me (better than pre patch guns we got left with)
4. I've been disconnected once since 1.5 so id say its an improvement.
you talk about the quiting threads, yet you're just as disrespectful as those that do. I APOLOGIZE if I may have hurt your feelings it was not "working as intended" I play better because of the difficulty and have worked with the game to show my strengths. If you're on 360 NA and need some guns near your ego, send me a friend request and I'll sell cheap ir free buddy. I'm listening to what your saying, but don't give up on yourself.
I'm starting to giving up. The game used to be fun now it's a pain to play. I'm doing the contracts daily but when I get disconnected on ps3 it tell me to stop playing. There is nothing else to do beside contracts.
I really not having fun fighting hordes of enemies that are too powerful.
If you are able to remove the 1.504 update why not remove all patch 1.5!
The bullet sponge patch was the 5th dlc. They can't remove it without coming up with something else and they are certainly not going to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeatherQc
+ i already get used to it, and if it went back it would be big step down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonehead
It's the 5th DLC. It's one thing to pull down a hotfix and a completely different ballgame to pull down the entire 5th DLC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeisdead
They better find something else if they want to keep people playing their game.
So far it's doing the opposite for myself
Uh, ok... "hrm"Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elder berries! I fart in your general direction, you englees knigget!!! I...
Wait, what???
You're going to have some real problems, if you see leadership in general as dictatorships. Every collective efford needs coordination and leadership, and that means somebody needs to tell someone else what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
One reason why the current creative lead may seem that way, is because of the hamfisted way unpopular changes to the game are implemented. Grenade Gate was only the beginning, and patch 1.5 was criticized heavily, yet launced with ensuing problems. Add to that the contrivances introduced to increase monetization, and you get a real image problem in addition to the mess on live servers. It doesn't help, that when Trick talks about Defiance, it's often hard to recognize the game we're playing.
There are two viable options to steer the game towards what the player base wants (or steer away from what we DON'T want). One is through dialogue and feedback. The other is with our feet. There are plenty of alternatives to Defiance already, and more coming. Trion needs to invest more in the setting, gameworld and story. Space samurai and spagetti western only serves to undermine what makes Defiance a distinct setting.
And I vote for Kiwibird getting a raise for her dilligence and patience, to be paid out in hugs!
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please dont take this as an attack against you, or as an attack against anyone. please think about what im about to say. you talk about disrespect so I want you to think about how disrespectful it is to make changes to a game that no one asked for. also, how disrespectful it is to ignore the problems with the game since release. how disrespectful it is to release a flawed product and charge people money for it. you ask for patience when the patch was tested for a shorter time than its taking to fix the patch. did your company have patience testing and releasing this patch? yet you ask for patience from me? yes, im frustrated. but, your company has the power to make me happy. i play the game and love it. placate me. throw something interesting my way. all you give is a pathetic bonus loot weekend? come on! shut down explosions 101 until you fix it. just take off the contract list. no, its left as the contract for 3 days straight. how dispespectful is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
i still love the game even in its current state. the only time ive been disrespectful on this forum has been in a foolishly playful way and have taken my ban like a man. never will i tell some one to "get better." that is hurtful and disrespectful, yet it is tolerated in every thread. im ok with it though. im an older gamer and realize that young men who think their reality is everyone elses are going to respond this way. it is obvious that the majority are unhappy with this recent change. the minute the truth is told, then the word disrespectful gets thrown around.
A smart man once said that absolute power corrupts absolutely. i hope you and your company come to the realization that the longer more people play, the more profit will come your way. Its trions turn to show some respect. id give trion an infraction if it posted on my forum. the ball is in trions court. i hope you all do the right thing. im routing for you.
leadership where people voice their opinions and no change takes place. yes pretty much a dictatorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yrkul
You're not the only person we have to take into account, R2nddan. We are taking feedback into account and we are working to get fixes in place. I understand that you're upset about the changes that have been made, but DLC 5 isn't going away. We're going to balance it, but it isn't going away.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
Here it's more a matter of putting your own vision above the wishes of your customers. Then we can talk about how smart that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
Bottom line is, Trick does not occupy the role you try to put him in.
Dude I get that you're frustrated, I have my own frustrations with this game as well (Centered around Arkbreaker DLC at the moment), but chill out and come at this with a cooler head...Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
Im not asking for it to go away. I actually like some of the changes. Im asking for respect, loyalty to us customers, more give and less take, more explainations, and better treatment in general. For example what are the tweaks being made? Here's a free whatever for having to put up with this etc. when will the hotfix take place?Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
I know you get it kiwi. I can tell by how you selectively ignore very valid arguments in my post. If it were just me you wouldnt have dozens of negative threads on your forums first page.
Interesting how baffled i am by your posts. I cant tell who you agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yrkul
Check out some of my previous posts. I have posted about tweaks that we're looking to make in the past week, and I will continue to do so as I go. Regarding free things, that's why I pushed for downtime compensation. I'm sorry you're not pleased with the compensation that was issued.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
ok ms. kiwi. thank you for your time, and im sorry if i made your heart beat faster then normal. you are steadfast and professional. deep down inside i know that you are going to help us, even if you cant voice that here. hopefully you are as brave and courage as you are professional and politically correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
Ok. I'll try it simpler: Trick Dempsey is not your employer. He's not your leader. He can't ask you to bend over and just take it unless you let him.Quote:
Originally Posted by r2nddan
Like I said before. Dialogue and voting with your feet/wallet are the ways to change things as a customer. Soapboxing does nothing. Neither does namecalling.
DLC... Sorry DLP 5 isn't going away but I willQuote:
Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
This game was awesome, now it's pow stchako.
Not being a fanboi by any stretch here but If I may, the game was a hot mess for low egos until the first hotpatch. Now at hotfix 1.503, while there is much work left to be done, the game play has noticeably improved for lower ego players. I can say this because I have been playing only my lower ego toons (150-450) to keep track of how things are going. There are several issues that remain but I will save those for another post. The progress is slow and one thing that makes it frustrating is that the only reason progress is needed is because Trion broke the game in the first place but I will take what I can get to feel good about.