Let's Farm The Monkey Again

Hi Arkhunters!

So a lot of us old Heavy Hitters still come to the forums.

I wanted to remind everyone that instead of keys at a Warmaster we get Arkforge.

SO if you need to stack the only REAL currency in the game then let's kill the Monkey like we used to back in December.

Let's make stacks of Arkforge to upgrade our purple weapons the day it goes Free To Play because... I guarantee that Trion will raise the Arkforge price for upgrading a weapon within one week after F2P goes live. (Mark my words, folks)

Hit me up ladies & gents.

Remember the Bat Signal!

No one wanna farm this monkey? If you are over 5K then we should have no problems. If you've upgraded your weapons above 5K we should REALLY have no problem.

C'mon fellas - we used to down this monkey so danged fast and earn tons of oranges remember?

We can do it again - this time stacking Arkforge for all those perfect Epics that will make stupendous legendaries.

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Originally Posted by Overtkill21

No one wanna farm this monkey? If you are over 5K then we should have no problems. If you've upgraded your weapons above 5K we should REALLY have no problem.

C'mon fellas - we used to down this monkey so danged fast and earn tons of oranges remember?

We can do it again - this time stacking Arkforge for all those perfect Epics that will make stupendous legendaries.

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I will help fight the warmonkey, Overt! I'm not quite at 5k, but can still bring him some pain :)

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Originally Posted by TASHINKA

I will help fight the warmonkey, Overt! I'm not quite at 5k, but can still bring him some pain :)

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Yessir, I know you were always top 5 :) We need the ol' gang. LOL

I know some are gone but - we can stack literally 1000s of ArkForge prior to F2P and bam insta-legendaries.

Tashinka and Overtkill21, hit me up and you might be able to convince me to start doing the Warmaster Marathons again. I stopped because I was so tired of being overpowered on my way into the Warmaster. I had a lot of heavy hitters that would only attend if I invited them.

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Originally Posted by Treasurekins

Tashinka and Overtkill21, hit me up and you might be able to convince me to start doing the Warmaster Marathons again. I stopped because I was so tired of being overpowered on my way into the Warmaster. I had a lot of heavy hitters that would only attend if I invited them.

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It's changed to where now we need the heavies even in the lead up to the WM - without a good number in that first room we'll fail too...I was in there with 2 others and LOL it was ridiculous roll short burst roll die repeat. Of course there were 12 or so outside that likely discoed.

I am definitely down to kill that fool a bunch . How much forge do we get on average ?

( good thing I upgraded my wolf )

I am down to try running the WM more often. I would really like to get some kills in on him also and if the WM can give us a nice amount of AF that's all the more reason to do some WM runs.

I'm getting a bit tired of some of the players we have on our server though. I've tried some runs since the update that toned him down after DLC 5 (think it was patch 1.504) and we still didn't fare well. Every time I go in several people are shooting him with Infectors and BMGs. It's not even the noobs that are to blame for this, they are people who have been around, people that should know better.

They have to know they aren't helping in killing the WM. But why do they do it? Pretty simple. All you have to do to get a big score now is just be doing any DMG to the WM to get credit and you leech off of those actually doing the DMG. At times I *really* wish we could set up our own raids. All the selfish players who leech with Infectors and BMGs would never get in my WM if I could help it.

I will say though the last few runs I was in we finally tried shooting the back. I thought for the first couple times we tried it the results weren't bad. I tried telling people where to go when he was hanging, to get a shot on his back, but it didn't seem like many people listened and continued to shoot the arm. But we did break his back armor both times we tried.

A lot of us heavy hitters haven't been around as much in the WM. We need to farm him again, and if there are enough of us in there, it won't matter if the noobs won't listen to us :).

I guess I can come out of war master retirement

Hi All!

ArkForge yield was not as high as I had hoped for the coordination required and time investment - a Dark Matter Arkfall yields 2x as much Arkforge in 1/2 the time. :(

I am definitely down for this. Just shoot me an invite or a msg on PSN and let me know

Hey bigdawg I was Group Inviting you for him last night!

Here's the thing though...I enter Warmaster and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait...must've been more than 10 minutes, likely 15.

Then we fight him - Good long fight, my loadout was not as effective as I'd hoped but that's OK retool after him - then reward screen. 11 Arkforge. ELEVEN. :( I think also maybe 15 keys? Scrip and Salvage reaped were high.

I then go to a just spawned DM Arkfall - race from Ark Crystal to Ark Crystal racking up mega-points, finish all of them with 16 minutes to spare (so 8 minutes of DM Arkfall so far) - Monolith goes down with 19 Minutes left (so total of 18 Minutes worth of DM Arkfall) - BAM - I get 25 Arkforge, a buncha keys, an orange Wolfhound and loads of scrip and salvage from the noobs around me leveling up like mad from the "killshot" (with the new window how can you NOT land it?).

I am still down to kill the monkey just time spent vs. reward is a shaky proposition.

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Originally Posted by Overtkill21

Hi All!

ArkForge yield was not as high as I had hoped for the coordination required and time investment - a Dark Matter Arkfall yields 2x as much Arkforge in 1/2 the time. :(

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It's too late Overt, you got us all riled up! jk :), I couldn't agree more with what Maverick said though, & I think people are being selfish using BMG's & infectors. We also need Treasurekins; she is the killing crew coordinator :) - did kill him last night with you present & I noticed hardly any infections & the light show was not spectacular

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Originally Posted by TASHINKA

It's too late Overt, you got us all riled up! jk :), I couldn't agree more with what Maverick said though, & I think people are being selfish using BMG's & infectors. We also need Treasurekins; she is the killing crew coordinator :) - did kill him last night with you present & I noticed hardly any infections & the light show was not spectacular

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Yeah that was a close one too...LOL.

My loadout wasn't proper, I think Fire + High Crit is absolutely necessary for when his armor breaks.

I'll be trying again though, you can count on it. :)

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Originally Posted by Overtkill21

Hey bigdawg I was Group Inviting you for him last night!

Here's the thing though...I enter Warmaster and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait...must've been more than 10 minutes, likely 15.

Then we fight him - Good long fight, my loadout was not as effective as I'd hoped but that's OK retool after him - then reward screen. 11 Arkforge. ELEVEN. :( I think also maybe 15 keys? Scrip and Salvage reaped were high.

I then go to a just spawned DM Arkfall - race from Ark Crystal to Ark Crystal racking up mega-points, finish all of them with 16 minutes to spare (so 8 minutes of DM Arkfall so far) - Monolith goes down with 19 Minutes left (so total of 18 Minutes worth of DM Arkfall) - BAM - I get 25 Arkforge, a buncha keys, an orange Wolfhound and loads of scrip and salvage from the noobs around me leveling up like mad from the "killshot" (with the new window how can you NOT land it?).

I am still down to kill the monkey just time spent vs. reward is a shaky proposition.

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My girl may have been on playing. If u ever see Aiylexma on that's her. Even showing up at tail end of a DM is still netting me decent arkforge. So yea hunting them would be far more beneficial than the WM. But I need a headshot custom bolter. The dbl crit WM sniper. Only one I never got

just send out a message " Calling all heavy hitters to kill the monkey" and well know it you and that serious people will attend.

FIND ME. I'm down. See signature below.

I've got a lot of 5K+ friends too, plenty of power to go around!

Also slightly off-topic, the monolith seems to be THE thing for high score/key intake. I got to one yesterday with only seconds left, put 1 bullet into the monolith for kill shot. 88K points. Yeesh. Made me feel kinda dirty but I'll take it!

SO did the big monkey again last night and since when are folks shooting his back?

His back crystal breaks and I'm like huh??? So of course he doesn't die and in fact keeps over 1/2 his life bar.

Why anyone would take it upon themselves to attempt to change the way the Warmaster has been done for almost 6 months is beyond me. Why they would do it and not inform any of the almost 30 other Arkhunters present that they were doing it is ludicrous.

Listen "Attack from the Rear Arkhunters", you may think the back is the way to go, you may even have friends that agree - I don't care - on the PS3 we shoot the right arm - we always have, even the noobs know to do it.

(P.S. I 100% do not agree that his back is more efficient - especially when he hangs near the wall and there is literally no space to hit his back.)

Yeah definitely arm no back

Yes, apparently PC back-shooting works better but on Xbox an PS3 it's RIGHT ARM. If people are reading forums they may get confused by this. In fact, why/how on earth this is different depending on platform escapes my logic circuits.

Get me in there. I grow weary of retraining noobs but am very effective in text chat "schooling". I've saved more than one monkey from surviving by stopping the early lockbreakers!

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Originally Posted by Overtkill21

Listen "Attack from the Rear Arkhunters", you may think the back is the way to go, you may even have friends that agree - I don't care - on the PS3 we shoot the right arm - we always have, even the noobs know to do it.

(P.S. I 100% do not agree that his back is more efficient - especially when he hangs near the wall and there is literally no space to hit his back.)

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the arm is the way its done because nobody will bother trying the back as a group. the right arm can only be hit from the right side, so any player on the left is hindering progress. the back can be hit from the left, right, or behind the WM. the right arm is highly favored when WM is on the wall, but that usually only makes up 25-30% of the whole fight. the WM spends most of his time on the ground, and the back is a bigger target.

im not disagreeing with the right arm method. not at all. but i wont discount the back method, no matter what platform i play on. i would rather take a little time in chat while waiting to break locks to see what the majority plan is. both methods have been verified to work with great success.

I would be up to farming him since I still need that trophy, plus I want the loot. I'm about 5460 I think, and have upgraded the weapons I favor for fighting him. I use a Sumimoto until his armor breaks, then I switch to my wolfhound. Speaking of which, I still need to get a critical force barrel for my wolfy and when I feel like blowing arkforge get its XP crit too.

I regret not farming him before the patch when I was free..sooo..his monkey butt is gonna pay..

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Originally Posted by Overtkill21

SO did the big monkey again last night and since when are folks shooting his back?

His back crystal breaks and I'm like huh??? So of course he doesn't die and in fact keeps over 1/2 his life bar.

Why anyone would take it upon themselves to attempt to change the way the Warmaster has been done for almost 6 months is beyond me. Why they would do it and not inform any of the almost 30 other Arkhunters present that they were doing it is ludicrous.

Listen "Attack from the Rear Arkhunters", you may think the back is the way to go, you may even have friends that agree - I don't care - on the PS3 we shoot the right arm - we always have, even the noobs know to do it.

(P.S. I 100% do not agree that his back is more efficient - especially when he hangs near the wall and there is literally no space to hit his back.)

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I see where ur coming from but I kinda disagree. Just because it was the only way it was being done for the past 6 months doesn't mean there isn't another way it can be done. I mean really since 1.500 how many times has he been killed shooting his right arm? Heck how many times has the crystal been broken in less than 2 minutes like it used to? Like puddy said taking a few minutes while everybody waits to get everybody on same page works.

There are a couple advantages to shooting his back. One being that once the back crystal is broke it's fully open and get high dmg numbers. With the right arm it is kinda a 2 step process and don't get the full dmg numbers until EGO tells u that it's fully exposed. The main advantage being the extra damage that u get for having sucker punch perk equipped. But just like Tashinka said that people running around leeching with infectors and BMG's isn't helping the cause in either way we proceed to try to kill it. I think that if we can get all the heavy hitters on the same page to shoot the back we could have great success and not have to worry about the leechers who's just there to freeload. Honestly think about how hard isi it to see the crit spot on arm with infectors and volge weapons shooting at same time?

Puddytat and bigdawg bring up some excellent points, the problem I fear is introducing the back has confused the masses. The key to success (imo) is getting everyone on the same page in team chat before fight, then using damage weapons on agreed point of attack. Also trying to overstuff the room can have the reverse effect - when several heavy hitters in the room are dc'd, while the infection healers remain to heal the other healers.

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Originally Posted by TASHINKA

Puddytat and bigdawg bring up some excellent points, the problem I fear is introducing the back has confused the masses. The key to success (imo) is getting everyone on the same page in team chat before fight, then using damage weapons on agreed point of attack. Also trying to overstuff the room can have the reverse effect - when several heavy hitters in the room are dc'd, while the infection healers remain to heal the other healers.

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Tried 2 last night. Arm/Back still doesn't matter at this point due to early lockbreakers and too many low-power players still not able to contribute enough. I don't even know...

What I do know is both failed. And both had one derp shooting at the locks while everyone begged and pleaded for them to STOP! One stopped, one didn't. The failure wasn't entirely due to the lockbreaking either. And since they were low level it took literally FOREVER for them to break each lock so we did manage to get the invites out.

On a humorous note, both of these guys were kicked from their clans for breaking locks. So there is that.

On a serious note, GEEZ TRION FIX THIS MESS ALREADY, WHY HAS IT GONE ON AND ON AND ON? With no response or help from you. All Trion has to do is buff the locks so it requires a bunch of high-powered guns for a few minutes on each, so one griefer or newb couldn't wreck the experience even if they did go rushing in!

HOW HARD IS THAT!?

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Originally Posted by dramaQkarri

On a serious note, GEEZ TRION FIX THIS MESS ALREADY, WHY HAS IT GONE ON AND ON AND ON? With no response or help from you. All Trion has to do is buff the locks so it requires a bunch of high-powered guns for a few minutes on each, so one griefer or newb couldn't wreck the experience even if they did go rushing in!

HOW HARD IS THAT!?

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They buffed the locks quite a bit but I still don't think it'll stop them. Think the only way we could stop it entirely is if we could set up our own raids which probably isn't going to happen.

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Originally Posted by TASHINKA

Puddytat and bigdawg bring up some excellent points, the problem I fear is introducing the back has confused the masses. The key to success (imo) is getting everyone on the same page in team chat before fight, then using damage weapons on agreed point of attack. Also trying to overstuff the room can have the reverse effect - when several heavy hitters in the room are dc'd, while the infection healers remain to heal the other healers.

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For sure, that is the key there, whatever method we do everyone needs to be on the same page. But this is difficult on our server as you know :) most people don't listen to directions. Whether it's tips on loadouts, what armor to shoot, or telling people to stop shooting locks. I have witnessed a lot of people just shooting the WM anywhere not realizing that they are doing no DMG to him.

I haven't been able to run as many WMs lately myself. Haven't been on Defiance as much, just long enough to get dailies done, but I should be around more this weekend. And yeah, it'd be interesting to see what a room full of like 20 heavy hitters could do, opposed to like the 40+ we do sometimes. Might have to give that a try some night.

I'm all about defeating the WM again, but...only just to do it since it's been posted we're not going to be able to raise epic weapons to legendary. I just wish they'd make they keycode drops worth something again.

Did one earlier tonight. 40+ people in there and still didn't bring him down. There was only about a 6k point difference between 1st & 21st too. He was glitches all over the place, so can only assume that was due to all the people locked in that tight place.

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Originally Posted by cmpowell

I'm all about defeating the WM again, but...only just to do it since it's been posted we're not going to be able to raise epic weapons to legendary. I just wish they'd make they keycode drops worth something again.

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What's that? I thought coming with F2P we'd be able to raise rarity. Cite source, I read different awhile back on forums, directly from Scapes.

I'll find it, but it's only from uncommon to epic you can raise the rarity

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...Arrives-June-4!

heres the thread, 4th paragraph

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Originally Posted by cmpowell

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...Arrives-June-4!

heres the thread, 4th paragraph

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Ah, same thread page 9, about halfway down. Here's what I know - bit of a contradiction or maybe clarification. Or maybe talking out the side of his neck but anyway, I guess we'll see what we get.

Here’s what I know, from this link page 9:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-June-4!/page9

Question from BJ Wyler:
At any rate, Scapes, can you expand upon the weapon rarity increases? I actually have some white and blue weapons I would love to bump up to Legendary status. Is this like a one time increase or only from one specific rarity to the next level, will they get the bonus rolls that come with each rarity level, etc. etc.

Scapes reply:
A weapon rarity increase bumps up the weapon's rarity by one tier for a flat cost (this cost scales with the weapon's current rarity tier). Upon rarity increase, the game rolls for that tier's bonus on the weapon. Weapons can be increased up to legendary.

Oops derail! Sorry about that. Here's my monkey story for tonight.

Had at least 30 people in it. Broke right arm armor with 5 min left. Then, he was able to escape with probably about 10% of his life left. The people at WM this time were a lot of high levels that know what they're doing. I did see a lot on the floor at a few points but could be coincidence as we tend to die in groups. At the end, 20 top scores over 270K. I had 267K. What exactly, is going on here? Please someone, explain how this one was lost.

Oh yeah, no rewards at all. Nada.

that is interesting, yet confusing especially since he posted both on the same day. I wonder if we can get scapes to clarify.

to epic or to legendary

sound the KIWI alarm !!!! Maybe after this patch-o-rama crisis is over we can ask about rarity upgrades on a new thread.

What is all this talk of rarity increase. Yes, you can increase to legendary. Period. It has never been stated otherwise and was directly answered already.

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Originally Posted by Overtkill21

What is all this talk of rarity increase. Yes, you can increase to legendary. Period. It has never been stated otherwise and was directly answered already.

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OK then, settled.

BACK ON TOPIC: I'm still in for WM but not until he's giving rewards again. No keys, no monkeys. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by dramaQkarri

OK then, settled.

BACK ON TOPIC: I'm still in for WM but not until he's giving rewards again. No keys, no monkeys. Oh well.

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I tried to message you when you invited me to the monkey yesterday, but Team chat didn't show up. I was trying to tell you I wasn't going to run him until they fixed his no reward glitch. I didn't stay, I'm sorry. :(

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Originally Posted by Overtkill21

I tried to message you when you invited me to the monkey yesterday, but Team chat didn't show up. I was trying to tell you I wasn't going to run him until they fixed his no reward glitch. I didn't stay, I'm sorry. :(

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That's allright, not the first broken thing in Defiance that I had to find out the hard way.

I'm in. Whenever the glitch gets fixed.