[Roleplay] A thread on the subject of Roleplay.

Hello there Beta community,

While this game is yet to go public and to this a lot of people will be restricted to their access to the game, I still want to know if people would be attracted to Roleplaying in this game.

So there may be a few wondering well, what is Roleplay?

Roleplay is the act of portraying a character other then your self, using language and a mind set of this character in the environment created for them, both in the Virtual world made for them, but so too the history behind them, this is called Lore.

The way we do this is one through typing, this is to give the character the ability to speak and interact with the world in the manner of speaking, connecting with the world, but then there is also blowing the crap out of things, sure, that lets us feel connected while we disconnect things.

So the main purpose of this thread is to give a little introduction to what Roleplaying is and why I think this game would be good for a Roleplay setting.

I think how they for one introduce the player to the world, through a cut-screen and very In-character training shows me they want to work for a very immersive feel, some thing that works great for Roleplayers.

With there being a TV show as well, this is a fine reference for Players to take the Lore (History) and Atmosphere into account, some thing very rare in most MMO's to have such a rich source to extract from.

But as you may have noticed, this game does feel a bit GoW / Halo like in play, but that's maybe just me.

But to me, this plays well to the Roleplay.


My Image as to what the Roleplay will be focused on.



Being Ark Hunters (And other wise, should you wish it.)

I see it being a group of like Mercenaries, picking up jobs and then scrambling to the Arks when they fall, but for the most time clearing out Hell Bug infestations, bringing the lead to a fire fight along with Convoys, rescue missions and a whole load of other things, all great to do as a group, In character.

And then when the times come that we're not killing things?

Well, then we can rally up as a gang and chill out, getting drunk and fighting at The Crater Inn.






So tell me what you think, is Roleplaying going to be a addition to this game?

Please scroll through the general discussion forum again, then consider whether this community could tolerate -- let alone fathom -- roleplay.

Well, I have looked through but I'm trying to get a complete census of it, not thrown together opinions.

My opinion from what I have read is that we have two crowds clashing, the Halo 360 players and the MMO players, drawn in for the Sci-fi (Like me self) and finding that grounding of level plane will be interesting.

I hope there is going to be a Roleplay presence but we shall see.

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Originally Posted by Vanwaros

Please scroll through the general discussion forum again, then consider whether this community could tolerate -- let alone fathom -- roleplay.

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Yah, it seems to be a mix of Shooter and RP players posting here mostly. In Fact I have noticed a large number of people here came from City of Heroes. So this causes me to think RP will be a major part of the over all experience. Although I doubt any RP will happen in combat areas, but people will tend towards immersive communication.

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Originally Posted by gothicshark

Yah, it seems to be a mix of Shooter and RP players posting here mostly. In Fact I have noticed a large number of people here came from City of Heroes. So this causes me to think RP will be a major part of the over all experience. Although I doubt any RP will happen in combat areas, but people will tend towards immersive communication.

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I am just hoping these two spheres do not clash, no no, that's never nice.

And I am saddened if it was only in terms of communication, because the communication systems suck at the moment, bar this I would love to see it into actual text roleplay, as I am against Mic-role playing, I type because I fail at speaking.. or sounding like a Voton... or sounding like a 37 year old male war torn.. ya' know..

This topic has brought up a pretty important issue that I wanted to mention.

I noticed many of the 'hardcore' shooter crowd are openly hostile to RPers, to the point of labeling them as freaks and whiners. And to be fair I've seen too many of the "elite RPers" who see shooter players as nothing more then screaming immature 12 year olds.

Frankly it's all crap.

Being a TPS and an RPG are not mutually exclusive. Games like Mass Effect prove that. Likewise one can enjoy playing a shooter and enjoy roleplaying their character at the same time. Anyone who disrespects another player and tries to dictate how they should play the game is simply wrong, period.

This game has a very strong shooter gameplay that will attract people who enjoy playing other TPS and FPS games. The game also has a deep and involved story and lore along with individual player characters that are taking part in the game's story - and this will attract many roleplayers as well.

If you don't like RP, just don't participate, do your own thing and ignore the people who are talking amongst themselves. They literally have zero impact on your gameplay. On the flip side, you don't have to be a crazy shooter master to enjoy the game. You can take the game at a casual pace, do some side quests or challenges, and just enjoy the ride.

But make no mistake, there will be roleplayers in this game, and it is a valid gameplay style just as much as the shooter crowd is.

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Originally Posted by Caios

This topic has brought up a pretty important issue that I wanted to mention.

I noticed many of the 'hardcore' shooter crowd are openly hostile to RPers, to the point of labeling them as freaks and whiners. And to be fair I've seen too many of the "elite RPers" who see shooter players as nothing more then screaming immature 12 year olds.

Frankly it's all crap.

Being a TPS and an RPG are not mutually exclusive. Games like Mass Effect prove that. Likewise one can enjoy playing a shooter and enjoy roleplaying their character at the same time. Anyone who disrespects another player and tries to dictate how they should play the game is simply wrong, period.

This game has a very strong shooter gameplay that will attract people who enjoy playing other TPS and FPS games. The game also has a deep and involved story and lore along with individual player characters that are taking part in the game's story - and this will attract many roleplayers as well.

If you don't like RP, just don't participate, do your own thing and ignore the people who are talking amongst themselves. They literally have zero impact on your gameplay. On the flip side, you don't have to be a crazy shooter master to enjoy the game. You can take the game at a casual pace, do some side quests or challenges, and just enjoy the ride.

But make no mistake, there will be roleplayers in this game, and it is a valid gameplay style just as much as the shooter crowd is.

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Thank you for the words and in all truth, I do agree and I would hope the way I presented this post was not pointing that I disagree with you, while I do think that "Elite Rp'ers" are right to block out griefers for the simple reason that Roleplayers never OOC Bomb as shooting event, it just makes no sense, where plenty of Griefers in many games will come along in wedding dresses, getting drunk and cursing out loud for no reason, I'm just saying I feel Elite Rp'ers are in there right to IC'ly completely ignore people whom are not Roleplaying, OOC personality is another matter.

Again, thank you for your words, I am a little disappointed I did not read any actual input to the OP other then pointing out the bad side of when TPS and RPG meets.

PS. If you read this as bitter in any way, it was not worded in that way, but on reading it does hint with such.. but I have no idea how to get my point across other wise.. I'm British, i think that's why its slightly cynical, stereo types, woooo!


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Sorry, on reading what post this was (Not my Guild Idea one.) I come to the conclusion, infact, yeah, it is some good input!

No worries, everything here is meant in good spirits.

I should mention, the sort of RPer you're referring to isn't quite the same thing that I was talking about in terms of "elite rpers". You're describing more of the hardcore RPer crowd. And you're right, if you're focused on an specific in character drama, I can understand ignoring others who have no interest in participating. This of course tends to annoy some of the non-rp crowd which is a failing on their part to understand that sort of playstyle. Really the best way to deal with it is to just ignore them and move on.

However the "Elite RPer" that I was talking about are the sort who try to enforce their RP vision on everyone else. Essentially everyone who doesn't play the game their way, and subscribe to their opinions and mythos, are seen as clearly being stupid and immature and incapable of playing the game the "proper" way. And they're not shy about telling you when you're playing the game wrong. Even if you are an RPer yourself they will not hesitate to tell you that your RP is wrong.

Yes there are actually people like that. And again, the best way to deal with them is to just ignore them and move on.

When a game is built with RP in mind it only positively effects the outcome of the game, for RPers and non-RPers alike. Those types of games often include lots of attention to detail and extra steps to increase immersion. I myself have already started developing a character and a back-story though I still have some polish left to get it to RPable.

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Originally Posted by Rousel

My opinion from what I have read is that we have two crowds clashing, the Halo 360 players and the MMO players.

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Because if you don't roleplay and have a 360, you must be a Halo player.......credibility......LOST.

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Originally Posted by Caios

No worries, everything here is meant in good spirits.

I should mention, the sort of RPer you're referring to isn't quite the same thing that I was talking about in terms of "elite rpers". You're describing more of the hardcore RPer crowd. And you're right, if you're focused on an specific in character drama, I can understand ignoring others who have no interest in participating. This of course tends to annoy some of the non-rp crowd which is a failing on their part to understand that sort of playstyle. Really the best way to deal with it is to just ignore them and move on.

However the "Elite RPer" that I was talking about are the sort who try to enforce their RP vision on everyone else. Essentially everyone who doesn't play the game their way, and subscribe to their opinions and mythos, are seen as clearly being stupid and immature and incapable of playing the game the "proper" way. And they're not shy about telling you when you're playing the game wrong. Even if you are an RPer yourself they will not hesitate to tell you that your RP is wrong.

Yes there are actually people like that. And again, the best way to deal with them is to just ignore them and move on.

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To be honest, I do not see these kind of people as Elitist Roleplayers, I see them as failed Human beings, but that's my view, I'm not one for complete ignorance and I don't think any one is entitled to Enforce their views.

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Originally Posted by Rousel

To be honest, I do not see these kind of people as Elitist Roleplayers, I see them as failed Human beings, but that's my view, I'm not one for complete ignorance and I don't think any one is entitled to Enforce their views.

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This is why I use "Elite RPer" in quotes.

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Originally Posted by Caios

This is why I use "Elite RPer" in quotes.

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Sorry, I did not catch wind of that, so tell me Caios, what do you seek in this game RP wise?

Also, if you have the time, can you check out my Clan idea?

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...on-Please-read

What do I seek in this game? A cool environment to RP in. That's all you really need.

I also look forward to making use of the lore behind the game and the show, and I'm really excited about the possibilities in how my character in game will affect the show and visa-versa. However at the end of the day, all you need for good RP is a bunch of other cool player characters to interact with. That's the best way to develop your own character, which to me is at the core of good roleplaying.

to be honest i only scaned the other post. but it seems like there is this freakin huge imaginalry line forming petween PC users and COnsole (namely 306 get mentioned alot)..... um is there an honest to god real reason for this? i mean TRION and SYFI are trying to bring gamers together why are we finding reasons to tear eachother apart.... could we atleast wait for the game to comeout then make our characters before we start going for eachother LOL had to mention this.

but back to the topic. I agree they way the game is designed especially the way it is intergrated with a tv show. they say the game interacts with the show... and if yo are looking at as marketing stratagy. people who just level and grind eventually loose intrest in the game and go to the next one. RPs tend to stay alot longer due to the friendships that they made in the game and honestly there is no set RP role with this game. the main idea of Defiance is starting the world anew and makeing or finding you place in it. But again the warrig over pc and console could be perfice it would seem the Castithan and Irathient dont get allong to well..lol

like i said with the way it designed no matter what your play style is the game is going ot be some form of RP.

EDIT: i know there are alot of typos and misspellings in there.

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Originally Posted by Tenz

to be honest i only scaned the other post. but it seems like there is this freakin huge imaginalry line forming petween PC users and COnsole (namely 306 get mentioned alot)..... um is there an honest to god real reason for this? i mean TRION and SYFI are trying to bring gamers together why are we finding reasons to tear eachother apart.... could we atleast wait for the game to comeout then make our characters before we start going for eachother LOL had to mention this.

but back to the topic. I agree they way the game is designed especially the way it is intergrated with a tv show. they say the game interacts with the show... and if yo are looking at as marketing stratagy. people who just level and grind eventually loose intrest in the game and go to the next one. RPs tend to stay alot longer due to the friendships that they made in the game and honestly there is no set RP role with this game. the main idea of Defiance is starting the world anew and makeing or finding you place in it. But again the warrig over pc and console could be perfice it would seem the Castithan and Irathient dont get allong to well..lol

like i said with the way it designed no matter what your play style is the game is going ot be some form of RP.

EDIT: i know there are alot of typos and misspellings in there.

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Don't worry. it's fine. :)

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Originally Posted by Rousel

I am just hoping these two spheres do not clash, no no, that's never nice.

And I am saddened if it was only in terms of communication, because the communication systems suck at the moment, bar this I would love to see it into actual text roleplay, as I am against Mic-role playing, I type because I fail at speaking.. or sounding like a Voton... or sounding like a 37 year old male war torn.. ya' know..

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Yah, depending on my mood I can sound like a ton of different things. Most of them being Gnomes and Ogres.

Yah I am a Gnogre IRL.

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Originally Posted by Caios

No worries, everything here is meant in good spirits.

I should mention, the sort of RPer you're referring to isn't quite the same thing that I was talking about in terms of "elite rpers". You're describing more of the hardcore RPer crowd. And you're right, if you're focused on an specific in character drama, I can understand ignoring others who have no interest in participating. This of course tends to annoy some of the non-rp crowd which is a failing on their part to understand that sort of playstyle. Really the best way to deal with it is to just ignore them and move on.

However the "Elite RPer" that I was talking about are the sort who try to enforce their RP vision on everyone else. Essentially everyone who doesn't play the game their way, and subscribe to their opinions and mythos, are seen as clearly being stupid and immature and incapable of playing the game the "proper" way. And they're not shy about telling you when you're playing the game wrong. Even if you are an RPer yourself they will not hesitate to tell you that your RP is wrong.

Yes there are actually people like that. And again, the best way to deal with them is to just ignore them and move on.

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Yah, I do get annoyed with the people who can't think outside the box when it comes to RP. ((see my Character story on the RP Background thread, totally out of the box while still fitting in the lore that is given.))

I hope this game can learn a lesson from the Hard Core RP-PVP servers in WOW, Realms like Emerald Dream which have strong communities that work in harmony with plenty of PVP/Raiding and xxQTllawlCOWXX names with hard core Role-players mixed in. The blending of the cultures there is something that can easily happen in a game like this.

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Originally Posted by Tenz

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I tend to be a casual Role-Player, and I love me a good shooter (a fact that I'm in the group of people who want a FPS view added to the game), I plan to play both the PC version and the XBOX version. odds are I'll do most of my RP as story posts and responses. Or hanging out with RP'rs while I sit back and drink Rum and Cokes, typing in every now and again. It's how I RP'ed in COH, it's what I do with my insane Gnome Warlock Kompressor. Of course this is because I have a bad case of dyslexia and most Role-players tend to be grammar Godwins. (most of my posts go through 2 spell checks before I hit 'submit'.)

Hell my roommate wasn't born speaking English and speaks and spells better English than me a native speaker who can not even get it right 50% of the times. :p

As a primary console player (360) and avid RPG lover I am open to this. I do it all the time in Skyrim and Reckoning. I also role play on Guild Wars as well and I look forward to getting together with those who would also like to.

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Originally Posted by War Master Degan

As a primary console player (360) and avid RPG lover I am open to this. I do it all the time in Skyrim and Reckoning. I also role play on Guild Wars as well and I look forward to getting together with those who would also like to.

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how do you RP in skyrim when its single player >.>

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Originally Posted by DuoMaxwell007

how do you RP in skyrim when its single player >.>

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Well the last time i checked, none of us are 300lbs Nordic warriors......are lizard & cat people for that matter:)

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Originally Posted by Aaricane

Well the last time i checked, none of us are 300lbs Nordic warriors......are lizard & cat people for that matter:)

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Exactly thank you Aaricane. It doesn't need to be multi for someone to roleplay. I can't say "FUS RO DAH" and cool crap happens. I wish but you know how that goes. Besides I belong to a group on Beth's forums and we write stories of our hero's life.

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Originally Posted by Aaricane

Well the last time i checked, none of us are 300lbs Nordic warriors......are lizard & cat people for that matter:)

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Speak for your self, I have a Bastard Sword, a claymore, and chain-mail and a leather jerkin, and I weigh 305.

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Originally Posted by Aaricane

Well the last time i checked, none of us are 300lbs Nordic warriors......are lizard & cat people for that matter:)

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in that case you can RP on EVERY game lol

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Originally Posted by War Master Degan

Besides I belong to a group on Beth's forums and we write stories of our hero's life.

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I dont call that roleplaying I call that writing fanfics. imho to roleplay even if youre writing it in text on a forum.. it requires multiple ppl to do


i.e you start off in a forum thread.... someone else replied to add to what you started or continue the story, then you reply back to that with a follow up etc etc

I never really RPed in games too much just occasionally. i find it hard to find guild mate that live in the same time zone or something lol. But i would like to give it a go on the console version we will have to see.

I really want my character to be a good blend of both i guess. god character and good RP character. So if i can find a guild that i can actually have people play when i do ill give it an honest shot and im sure it would probably be RPers who might making a mention in the show. if you really immerse your self in the Defiance world

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Originally Posted by DuoMaxwell007

I dont call that roleplaying I call that writing fanfics. imho to roleplay even if youre writing it in text on a forum.. it requires multiple ppl to do


i.e you start off in a forum thread.... someone else replied to add to what you started or continue the story, then you reply back to that with a follow up etc etc

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It's a fine line between Fan Fic and RP forum threads. I know plenty who do both. I personally like coming up with interesting Characters, but I would rather not do Fan Fic for them. So if I post any thing it is always short and sweet, well almost. I had a 3 page post in WOW forums going over my Warlocks background and history. But to me that was back Story which covered Warcraft 2 through Wrath of the Litch King. It was a lot of ground to cover for a gnome.

I also do both. I look forward to trying it out on Defiance. I'm hoping for a good experience no matter what anyone's definition of roleplaying is. I enjoy one off stories and participating in what my friends call a "pass around".

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Originally Posted by War Master Degan

I can't say "FUS RO DAH" and cool crap happens.

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Don't have kinect then ? :p

I enjoy roleplaying it does take time to get used to especially if people just drop you in it and just initiate a scene with you but sometimes those are the best times.

Usually in an mmo I'll have 2 characters, 1 for maxing out and the other for RP situations but this game I can see myself having 1 maybe 2 characters and still being able to RP with them.

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Originally Posted by Belmthemus

Don't have kinect then ? :p

I enjoy roleplaying it does take time to get used to especially if people just drop you in it and just initiate a scene with you but sometimes those are the best times.

Usually in an mmo I'll have 2 characters, 1 for maxing out and the other for RP situations but this game I can see myself having 1 maybe 2 characters and still being able to RP with them.

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Lol, you got me there my friend. I hope we can have more than one character for the purposes of rping and to experience other races. But I know what it's like to get thrown into a rp convo and just have to roll with it. Good times.

I hope they only have 1 character slot to start, i always tend to make more than 1 toon instead of concentrating on just 1.

i'd hate to be stuck to just one char. i needs my alts!

I personally feel that you can Roleplay in any kind of game, even Snake on your phone.. because I, as a person, do not slither around eating bugs, I play the role as I am playing a game where I eat bugs, my point being really any form of game is a Role Playing Experience, it's just what we mean by Roleplaying.

To me I do prefer Roleplaying in a Player made environment with other players, where our ideas and the personality we create can be bashed around and beaten up by them around us, asking us the questions we didn't think about and as a whole perfecting our character.

I would love to role play in this awesome universe!

It has the greater possibility of expanding Role Playing in general though with what is believe to be a built in Voip system or even using the Console based one's could lead to a lot of fun and laughs.

Ill make a cool roleplay profile once i get and idea of what type of toon and class i will play. I need some visual stimuli to inspire that.

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Originally Posted by SteelPaladin

Ill make a cool roleplay profile once i get and idea of what type of toon and class i will play. I need some visual stimuli to inspire that.

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I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

I am a hard core player turned casual due to RL. I have always loved RPrs since my gaming history is firmly rooted in PnP DnD. I am a huge fan of "on the spot" RP and love to randomly throw in comments when running across a public RP group. I have found that my best RP tends to come from unexpected situations.

I tend to focus heavily on Min Maxing however and that takes time away from a more permanent RP group and I tend to lose touch with regular story Arcs that develop. however, in a group that understands my habits i love being the cameo appearance guy who"just gets back from the front lines" after days/weeks/months of in game leveling. I have a tendency to play the rough military guy who is very concerned with the war/conflict/ whatever the in game factions are fighting over. I have a tendency towards tough love but genuine respect towards new recruits and an absolute love for the sarcastic dry humor revolving around the military life style of my characters. so If any groups are welcome to an unscheduled cameo appearance guy with the spirit of justice/and a penchant for dry sarcastic banter and puns oh yes horrible puns sometimes, id be willing to look out for you and see what kind of plot twists i can throw in to y'alls stories.

In the case of Defiance i will be focussing on Uniting the new population of Earth and fighting for Equality and ripping the throat out of any prejudice i see.

let me know if any fledgling groups would be interested in a monkey wrench or 3 and ill make my way to find y'all