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It's time to make the DD shields page a little more clearer, would you agree with the following classifications for shield types:
http://www.defiancedata.com/shields.php
Or do you think that I need more than Low, Average and High?
Edit: Changed to Poor, Average and Good because that got confusing with amounts, "Low... isn't that good? etc."
Maybe the ranges from White to Orange for recharge rate and delay.
Why is Tachyon poor on recharge?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, like we have for item rarity? that might confuse some people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucent
EDIT: Oh the values, yes that would be great :o as well would be the values for each of the non capacity stuff. Do we know if Power Rating changes anything other than capacity?
You have a great point, I got confused with the labels myself, so I need to re-do the labels then re-check the data I entered. Tachyon does have a good recharge rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucent
I think it is just capacity.
Like whatever a white Respark is to it's V version
Something like
Delay: 2.6(?) - 2.25
EDIT: I just reloaded and saw that's exactly what you said. I love it like that!
:D Now I just need helpful souls to help refine the min-max as I only went with what I had stored in my inventory for each shield model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucent
I will go see what I have compared to yours right now.
7th Legion Youkai Rate: 80-95 (95 is on a V)
Respark Delay: 2.55-2.25 (2.25 on V)
Tachyon Recharge: 75-96 (90 on IV DX 95 on V ARK)
Thanks, updated the lists :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucent
Hey Etaew, saw this thread yesterday, but never got the chance to reply. I will see if I can help you with this page a little later when I sign into Defiance Data :).
I haven't found any white shields since the update. But I wanted find out if white shields get stat boosts because they don't have a nano resistance.
I only have 3 Shields so I cant be much help but for bonuses.
My Fortifier ARKs have 9% Reduction
And the Berserker ARK is 15% Fire Rate
Also I like the Low/Average/High but im a fan of keeping things simple if it works :)
Thanks, updated these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chump Norris
I just checked, and Rebel V is 2.25, meaning both Respark and Rebel have a 2.85 - 2.25 Delay range. Armor Plates go 0 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 3 (Edit: forgot I had a lowbie alt - confirmed numbers).
That is all I can help with Shield-wise right now with my current stash.
I can give you every ARK and special shield value in the game if you'd like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
From top of my invent to bottom where X is type, Y is number, Assume ARK if no (Y) is submitted:
7th Legion (X) Focus (Y) - "Drastically reduces recoil and spread for 6 seconds after shield breaks."
7th Legion (X) Surge (Y) - "+50% Melee damage for 6 seconds after shield fully recharges."
7th Legion (X) Zanzou (Y) - "10% Chance to create a Decoy when shield breaks."
Chimera Claw - "+10% HP" (Variant is an Ironclad with a bonus identical to the Booster V ARK series.)
VBI Sentinel - "Take 3% less damage while standing still."
(X) Blockade V ARK - "Take 30% less damage from vehicles."
(X) Bullseye V ARK - "+10% Crit Mult when shield down."
(X) Guardian V ARK - "Take 5% less damage when shield full." - Unique to ARK variant shields.
(X) Berserker V ARK - "+15% Fire Rate on shield break."
(X) Brawler V ARK - "+20% Melee Damage when shield down."
(X) Booster V ARK - "+10% HP" - Unique to Chimera Cla and ARK variant shields.
(X) Charge V ARK - "Take 12% less damage while shield recharging."
(X) Grenadier V ARK - "+15% DMG on next grenade after shield break. Cooldown: 5 seconds."
(X) Regenerator V ARK - "+100% HP regeneration."
(X) Reloader V ARK - "+20% Reload when shield down."
(X) Survivor V ARK - "+20% self-revive refresh on shield break. Cooldown: 5 seconds." - Unique to ARK variant shields.
(X) Blastpoof V ARK - "Take 40% less damage from your explosives."
(X) Energizer V ARK - "+10% EGO Power refresh on shield break. Cooldown: 5 seconds." - Unique to ARK variant shields.
(X) Contender V ARK - "20% Melee Damage after shield recharges." (Duration unknown? Not stated on card.)
(X) Fortifier V ARK - "Take 9% less damage while standing still."
(X) Rearm V ARK - "+2% ammo regen when shield breaks. Cooldown: 5 seconds."
If you want more specifics, please ask. I have every rare shield in the game, so, can give proper numbers where required.
Thanks updated this.Quote:
Originally Posted by spweasel
Thanks, updated these.
I haven't added these yet:Quote:
Originally Posted by Error404
Chimera Claw - TODO handle special
Charge V ARK - I have Charger down in my DB is Charger something that really exists or did I mistype when I first added it?
Yeah, Charger exists. Charge is just a typo on my part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Ironclad Fortifier IV EX does 6% less damage when standing still
Thank you, added the Fortifier 6% epic bonus :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucent
Etaew only know i checked the link and i need correct one thing (i may be wrong)but Legendary shields are not all of them ARK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Well that's strange, so they are both orange EX and orange ARK?Quote:
Originally Posted by drackiller
That Fortifier I posted was an OJ shield. :) But who knows if it was upgraded or not, you know?
It wasn't mine.
Even more depressing, so if you upgrade the rarity of a shield, it keeps the lower rarity bonus? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucent
I doubt it was an epic. I think it was always a legendary, but I can ask him.
And yes when you upgrade, everything stays the same EXCEPT armor plays and the few things that change a little (like recharge delay on Resparks/Rebels and Recharge rate on Tachyon, etc)
Oh, I see the confusion going on.
You need to change the Append names getting associated with the rarity.
Rarity affects armor plates.
Resistance or not affects what the delay/recharge will be (as far as I know. ie. Respark V with no resist delay is 2.25, but UPGRADED Respark IV with no delay is ALSO 2.25, being treated like a V when upgraded although keeping its name).
Almost Legendaries can be IV or V and can have DX and EX, as far as I know.
Like here is from my shop that were NOT upgraded (nothing on my shop is):
#03
Rhino Contender IV EX** (15% ONLY BECAUSE EX)
EGO: 5000
15% Melee after shield recharges
Resist: Bio
Cap: 14460
Recharge/Sec: 40%
Recharge Delay: 9.6
75k
#04
Tachyon Berserker IV DX (IF THIS WAS EX, IT WOULD HAVE HAD 10% FIRE RATE)
EGO: 5500
5% Fire Rate on shield break
Resist: Syphon
Cap: 16179
Recharge/Sec: 90%
Recharge Delay: 9.6
75k
You have Legendary shields classified as ARK, but they have several denominations, hell you can have same shields with diferent denomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
I`ll try to take some pictures if you want.
Yep. I tried saying this on the PTS forum, they should have fixed the Roman Numerals to show properly, because it is just going to cause a bunch confusion and maybe other bugs down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucent
And for the second part. Basically the highest a IV shield can go is EX for the bonus, highest a three can go is DX, and so on. But a IV shield can have an EX, DX, or D quality of bonus (depending on what your bonus is, not all types of bonuses appear on D and DX shields, and some bonuses are only ARK shield bonuses). Of course a V shield can have any of them, ARK, EX, DX, or D.
My point wast that being Legendary is not the same as to be a Legendary ARK.