Arkfalls=Lagfalls

I just participated in an arkfall an hour ago and I have to tell you, there needs to be something done here. I have played on Alpha and the betas for PC and xbox and has never been this bad. There is no way this game can be played with constant slow down, enemies appearing , disappearing going from half health to full , back to half. The sound of my rifle firing almost mutes itself because it cant keep up with the fire rate of the gun vs the lag in the area. Most of the people stood near an ammo box because of constant reloading trying to kill something that moved out of the way 10 seconds ago. The amount of bullets actually hitting something is very small.
I for one and surprised at the lag and slow framerate because I didn't see any of this at the end of the xbox 360 beta.
I am seriously thinking that consoles in general are crap and could never hope to support games like these EVER. Im sure Trion is doing everything they can but from the player side we aren't seeing any improvements.
Please work harder and faster Trion!

they are working on it. trion never had the opportunity to test the defiance servers with this many players. if the xbox couldnt handle the game than they wouldnt have released it for the xbox. we just need to be patient and make the best with what is currently working

It would nice if they would limit the amount of people who you can actually see during an arkfall. I'm assuming most of the lag is due to the XBox not being able to handle it graphically. If it is a server/latency issue maybe they should slow everything down in an arkfall. Kind of like Eve online does when they have 1000+ people battles.

Could be peoples internet as well, I did a few last night with no issues at all with lag or anything. So it may depend on how many people are online and who has decent internet or not.

Well I can honestly say its not a graphical problem with the xbox. Trion just has a few things to work out and so far are doing an amazing job. lag and graphic problems are completely different and very easy to tell apart.

I just solo'd an arkfall megaboss (Matron) To figure out it glitched on me -.- says its still here but i clearly saw it blow up.

Me and my roommate did 3 this morning, there was easily 100+ others around and we didnt have any lag at all.

I haven't had a problem with lag,my problem is that the last 2 major arkfalls I did,i got nothing for completing them. sometimes I get gear,or experience,sometimes it's a waste of time and gives nothing.

It is a problem with the hardware.
The Xbox 360 has a 512mb shared structure.
What does that mean you have 512mb to share for all operations of the Xbox.
which means when you have 30+ people at a major arkfall its going to struggle to keep up with the movement/shooting of everything going on.

Ok now think of it this way an old PC with a 512mb video card turn the setting of any game to max and watch your framerate stutter everything slows down.
The Xbox is struggling to keep up which is one of the reasons mmorpgs stayed away. That and Microsoft wanting a cut of the monthly fees and any microtrasactions.

Unless they tone down the amount of people allowed into the arkfalls there really isn't anything Trion can do about it.

This will be fixed with next Gen systems as all rumors have them coming out with 8gb of ram.

It's NOT a Hardware problem.

You're a pc gamer, right?

Arkfalls give you easy access to good resources in the world Of defiance, so people will have to deal with it.

so true. I love it anyway....

It IS a hardware issue on the Xbox 360. You have 512mg of shared ram. You start putting 40+ people in the same tight area of an arkfall add in mobs and weapon effects you start seeing issues with the Xbox struggling to display it all. Hence the reason mobs sometimes disappear entirely only to materialize only a few seconds later in the same spot. The Xbox is using everything it has to display all of this. Often failing to do so in overpopulated arkfalls.

When you have 512mb of ram to use for everything you start running out. That's why games on the Xbox often have a lower player count. Games have sometimes 128-256 player battles. Same game on the Xbox caped at 32. Because the Xbox simply doesn't have the processing power required.


Over populate an arkfall and you start having serious issues on the Xbox.

This is a server issue....if optomized correctly the xbox should have no issues...have you seen halo4? With defiance graphics the xbox should be able to handle the arkfalls.

I don't mind the lag tooooo much, it's more the sound goes mad for me with slightly choppy frame rate... But yeah Trion looking into it.

Few things
1Lag does not control mobs blink in and out of existence, no movement just there then not there,things might take a second to load in. But it does not make thing pop in and out like at arkfalls I dont care how much "LAG" ya got.
2Lag does not have anything to do with sound being lost at over populated arkfalls.
3Lag does not control hardware slowdown and crashes. Again dont care how much lag you have no going to crash your system.

Look at the requirements for this game
2gb of ram
512video card
recommended
4gb ram
1gb vid card.

I dont care how much you "optimize" your not going to be able to run a game like that on 512mb shared memory
It is going to have issues and continue to have issues until they cap the amount of people in an arkfall. 30people tops should be the limit. Anything more and the system itself cannot handle it.

By that logic the game should not even load....but it does. I imagine some of thr processing is done server side and streamed to the console. If that's the case then yes....lag..could cause some of those issues.

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Few things
1Lag does not control mobs blink in and out of existence, no movement just there then not there,things might take a second to load in. But it does not make thing pop in and out like at arkfalls I dont care how much "LAG" ya got.
2Lag does not have anything to do with sound being lost at over populated arkfalls.
3Lag does not control hardware slowdown and crashes. Again dont care how much lag you have no going to crash your system.

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Lag does cause mobs to blink in and out XD when there is a internet problem mobs will skip around the screen due to players not getting enough bandwidth. Lag will stop sound and cause crashing due to the same reason.
Go play a pc mmorpg max out your bandwith with torrents then stand in front of a mob your internet will not be able to keep up with the mob so he will start popping up around you in weird spots. Also your game will randomly discount due to the stress on the network. Sound will be lost because the bandwith isnt pulling in what it needs to stream it. As me who went from dial-up late to DSL after everyone one else had Broadband. And now myself finally have broadband I can easily tell the difference. As can anyone else who thinks before posting in the forums.

This is a hardware problem.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPBFlVso7as Notice the difference?
I played WoW with a 6620g 512video memory which is built into the cpu and ran on high with shadows and water detail on low with around 26-35 fps. No problem playing.