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  • 04-04-2013, 08:11 AM
    Dradiin
    Only thing i can suggest is to stop trying to get the game client, better off pursuing a refund until they release an installer that RESUMES after disconnect.
  • 04-04-2013, 08:20 AM
    rel1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thearl View Post
    I started my third downloading session this morning. I'm sure the game has already ceased loading and I'll have to start from scratch a 4th time. I double checked my electronic receipt to make sure I had bought Defiance and not Sim City.

    I did not experience this during Beta or Alpha. I do not understand why I can't convert one of those versions to the full game to save patch time.
    I will be requesting a refund if I am unable to play this weekend.
    that is all.

    Are you on Wi-Fi as well?

    TLDR the entire post.

    Your response is much needed, and I thank you in advance for it.
  • 04-04-2013, 08:23 AM
    Dradiin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rel1 View Post
    Are you on Wi-Fi as well?

    TLDR the entire post.

    Your response is much needed, and I thank you in advance for it.

    I wondered this also and direct connected to my ISP, still the exact same issue.
  • 04-04-2013, 08:32 AM
    rel1
    I am thinking a lawyer would be best. I want a refund since I cannot play the game for 2 days. 56 MB download, 7.2 UL, but my ping dances around from 12-456. I really want to call your linux techs Monkeys......
  • 04-04-2013, 08:36 AM
    rel1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dradiin View Post
    I wondered this also and direct connected to my ISP, still the exact same issue.

    Same provider?
  • 04-04-2013, 08:41 AM
    Dradiin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rel1 View Post
    Same provider?

    Umm yes ?

    Why would i have 2 internet providers ?
  • 04-04-2013, 08:45 AM
    rel1
    Tethered phone? I am thinking this is why we get throttled. There techs put in a provision for this and , in layman's terms, we are getting ****ed because of hackers...
  • 04-04-2013, 08:46 AM
    rel1
    Why are you throttling my DL Trion? I am seriously thinking about litigation.
  • 04-04-2013, 08:48 AM
    rel1
    throttling
    Yes I can prove you are throttling.. Trion

    Tisk, Tisk, not good
  • 04-04-2013, 08:50 AM
    JohnMcClane
    Downloading from the EU at 1,75mb /sec so i guess problems are solved or local ?
    Got me UE and started a fresh download now half way after about an hour ,game should be in within an hour now.
  • 04-04-2013, 08:53 AM
    rel1
    Steam won't give me a refund.. See you in court

    Yours truly,

    I now own Trion. ****ing Monkey's.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:00 AM
    Boskonijn
    Platform: PC
    Location: Groningen, Netherlands
    Internet Provider: Ziggo

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2622569909.png

    One that is close to me.

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2622576649.png

    Currently downloading at 30/60 kb/s. It started at around 7/8 mb/s for about 30 seconds and then it dropped straight to where I am now.

    Edit: For all the people that complain about the patcher not resuming: Yes it did that a couple of times for me too. But somehow it fixed itself, and when I continue the download now it starts downloading at 140 mb/s till the point it stopped downloading. Start/close the patcher a couple of times, and open the Patcher.exe file in the same map as where the download files are. Don't know if that is the solution but this is how I did it.

    Edit2: Also the post below me confirms that it very quickly 'downloads' the data you already have and then continues. A coincidence we both got it working somehow or did they perhaps fixed it :)

    Edit3: It has completed :) Restarting the patcher worked for me. When the speed dropped I pressed cancel and closed it. After a restart it downloaded 3/4 mb/s on average for a couple of minutes, on my best try it downloaded at 7 mb/s for about 4 minutes till it dropped.
    Good luck with downloading and see you all in game eventually.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:09 AM
    Jamhin4
    Hey guys, just wanting to spread a little ... hope ??? I've been writing in this thread on post #51, but I wanted to write an update here (closer) to the most recent posts.

    My download failed at 10:45 am central time (my time). I killed the patcher, shut down Steam and then restarted my machine. When I got back on, I started the download again (for the FOURTH time since April 2nd). THIS time, it downloaded the portion that had been downloaded previously VERY quickly and is now CONTINUING the download RATHER THAN STARTING OVER!

    THIS is what I, personally, have been waiting for. I can handle being patient with my slow download as long as I can have some hope that the downloads will CONTINUE from where they left off, if the connection is lost or there is any kind of failure.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:13 AM
    Thearl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rel1 View Post
    Are you on Wi-Fi as well?

    TLDR the entire post.

    Your response is much needed, and I thank you in advance for it.

    Comcast Cable - I'm not at home to snapshot the data stream for you, but it's a 150Mb/s connection for EQ2 and WoT for comparison.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:17 AM
    Thearl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jamhin4 View Post
    Hey guys, just wanting to spread a little ... hope ??? I've been writing in this thread on post #51, but I wanted to write an update here (closer) to the most recent posts.

    My download failed at 10:45 am central time (my time). I killed the patcher, shut down Steam and then restarted my machine. When I got back on, I started the download again (for the FOURTH time since April 2nd). THIS time, it downloaded the portion that had been downloaded previously VERY quickly and is now CONTINUING the download RATHER THAN STARTING OVER!

    THIS is what I, personally, have been waiting for. I can handle being patient with my slow download as long as I can have some hope that the downloads will CONTINUE from where they left off, if the connection is lost or there is any kind of failure.

    That is good news! Maybe the light at the end of the tunnel isn't an oncoming train!
  • 04-04-2013, 10:00 AM
    JohnMcClane
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2622737536.png

    my test results after i got the game on to me PC in about two hours fresh no disk as gold is always to old ;)

    Hope you all get the game on your system asap !!!
  • 04-04-2013, 10:27 AM
    Ebany
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Boskonijn View Post
    Edit: For all the people that complain about the patcher not resuming: Yes it did that a couple of times for me too but somehow it fixed itself and when I continue the download now it starts downloading at 140 mb/s till the point it stopped downloading.

    The patcher does resume in almost all cases, the problem is the patcher will overwrite which ever file it is currently downloading.

    example;

    Say its currently working on "bundle_4-53.1" which is almost 700MB @ 0.08MB/s.
    You pause or close the patcher, and when it resumes, it will overwrite that incomplete file with a brand new "bundle_4-53.1" starting at zero (0) bytes.
    You will get a burst of speed when you first hit the Update button, this is the patcher hash checking the files it has download until it comes to the one it was working on and then it will slow right down.

    I ran a program to monitor the changes it made, and this was the result.

    Unfortunately for most of us it is one of two major problems (or both together);

    1.) The patcher downloads at an abysmally slow rate.
    2.) Once the patcher completes (or almost completes) there is an error message and it starts all over again.

    Cause is probably because Trion was too tight on security or simply did sloppy programing without testing properly. Regardless, I still want to know what's happening. We can now see by all the tests, it is not related to anything on the customer side.

    Edit: And no, its not fixed. Mine completed and came up with an error. Its now restarted and ETA is about 1.5 days left.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:33 AM
    Sin316
    so, there are only servers in austin, TX, where everybody from the world is downloading the client ? You seriously didn't consider renting a couple servers in, for example, EU, so we can download it from elsewhere ?

    And that being said, why didn't you include a peer-to-peer option ... you know ... like in every other mmo on the market lol.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:39 AM
    ArsenicJohn
    Xbox 360
    Gastonia, NC
    RoadRunner(Time Warner Cable)

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2622855343.png
  • 04-04-2013, 11:43 AM
    Jamhin4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ebany View Post
    1.) The patcher downloads at an abysmally slow rate.
    2.) Once the patcher completes (or almost completes) there is an error message and it starts all over again.

    As I've mentioned in Post #51 of this thread, the speed on my patcher has been 0.07 when trying to download the patches. It's been SO slow that the patcher never completed or even came anywhere close to completing. And EVERY time I restarted it would REdownload the previous stuff at 0.07. I was just thrilled this morning when I actually saw it jump up to 75.0 when redownloading the previous patch data, but yes, for me when it was continuing with the download of the new data it went back down to 0.07. It says I've got like a day and a half left to load and as horrible as that sounds, I can live with that if I actually CAN manage to download the full patch and PLAY this frackin' game, eventually. It was a tiny bit of hope, ya know?

    But, it is true, I have no idea what to expect when it finishes or gets almost to the end (since it will be a new experience for me). :eek: I WANT to believe that some kind of progress is being made and that our problems are being addressed, bit by bit.
  • 04-04-2013, 11:56 AM
    Thearl
    I restarted for the third time this morning at 6:00 EST. At 2:50pm EST, it crashed AGAIN, with 12.4 hours remaining on the download.
    It is restarting at 1 day, 4 hours remaining on the download.

    I want my refund. NOW.
  • 04-04-2013, 11:56 AM
    thinice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rel1 View Post
    Steam won't give me a refund.. See you in court

    Yours truly,

    I now own Trion. ****ing Monkey's.

    What a dumb dog
  • 04-04-2013, 11:57 AM
    Nevzat
    What about those of us who are having no issues with patching but actually logging in?

    I am UK based, London on the PC platform and my ISP is talktalk.

    Have not been able to play at all, keep getting critical error before character select etc.
  • 04-04-2013, 11:57 AM
    Terawyn
    Platform: PC
    Location: Denver, Colorado
    Provider: Comcast
    Connection Speeds: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623057822.png

    Currently downloading at .86-1Mb/s
  • 04-04-2013, 01:08 PM
    Sampiro
    speed test
    Platform: Xbox
    Location: Hertford N.C
    Provider: Embark 67.238.234.205


    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623221483.png


    Patching at 0.03 avg

    Xbox is wired test done on wireless laptop
  • 04-04-2013, 02:03 PM
    Destinynight
    Platform: PC
    Location: Austin, TX
    Provider: Time Warner Cable

    Grande Communications Speedtest:
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623318373.png

    Doublehorn Communications Speedtest:
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623325251.png

    The download speed fluctuates pretty wildly. Sometimes I'll get a whole 3mb/s, other times I'm getting .08mb/s.
  • 04-04-2013, 02:18 PM
    Primus
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623353549.png
  • 04-04-2013, 02:33 PM
    Aethernaut1899
    PC
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    TekSavvy

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623378867.png

    Patcher is running around 0.3 Mbps.
  • 04-04-2013, 03:00 PM
    Cashinit
    Platform: PC
    Location: South Carolina
    Internet Provider: Northland Cable

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623422167.png

    patching at 0.5MB/sec average
  • 04-04-2013, 03:35 PM
    MercRios
    Platform: XB360
    Location: Ohio
    Internet Provider: Time Warner

    Download: 30 MBs
    Upload: 5MBs
    Ping: 20ms, 0 jitter

    Patch download speed: 1.2MBs (wired connection)
  • 04-04-2013, 03:46 PM
    colerockwell
    they took the server down. it says it on their twitter and on the patch notes that the server is down for maintenance. i dont have a twitter but i still found that checking their page occasionally really is the best way to keep up to date with whatever the hell it is theyre doing. If they are going to warn us about a server shut down, it'll be there first.
  • 04-04-2013, 03:56 PM
    GREG qc ca
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623491186.png
    xbox
    Laval, Québec, Canada
    vif internet.com
    ul:0.65
    dl: 5.92
  • 04-04-2013, 04:14 PM
    Thanatos72
    Slow speeds
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623519621.png
  • 04-04-2013, 05:03 PM
    dschuldy
    http://speedtest.net/result/2623508103.png

    downloading from game client at 38mb/s 6 hours to go... started download 12 hours ago..... SORT THIS SH*T OUT!!!
  • 04-04-2013, 05:30 PM
    ThanielFoxx
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623619866.png
  • 04-04-2013, 06:06 PM
    Caiden
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623664046.png

    Downloading at .01 with 4 days to go! Some kind of fix sure would be nice for this. A friend of mine that bought the game with me today lives about 30 minutes away and is already playing.
  • 04-04-2013, 06:13 PM
    indrct
    Platform: PC
    Location: Atlanta, GA
    Internet Provider: Comcast
    Connection Speeds: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623675015.png

    This is while downloading. I'm on wireless ATM (****e innit tho) with full bars however. I am getting .1 to .7 mbps. I redownloaded Shogun 2 last night in two hours.
  • 04-04-2013, 06:16 PM
    sehson
    Platform: PC
    Location: LAnsing, MI
    Internet Provider: At&T Uverse
    Connection Speeds: Ping 35ms down 10.29Mb/s up1.2 Mb/s
    patch speed----0.33MB/s

    Though here's a hint from a networking guy, Don't lock the transfer rate to MB/s use standard networking which is Mb/s.
    .33MB/s is really 2.64Mb/s which is not a bad transfer rate when My Uverse is only 10Mb/s. You might find less complaints. Or alternatively, have the patcher list the number of files and/or data size remaining that might be helpful Cause I would find it helpful in understanding why the patcher needs to run for 3 hours for an update


    For those that are not Networking knowledgeable the difference between the "B" and the "b" in the speeds is Bytes and bits. 8 bits make a Byte. Network speeds are measured in bits So your 5,10,20 Meg internet is Megabits per second, not Megabytes so 1/8 what most people think. or 1.2MB/s = 10Mb/s of my Uverse, and remember that is the speed of everything entering the router so if someone else is downloading or watching netflix the patch/download rates are going to be slower.
  • 04-04-2013, 06:20 PM
    tuckerpb
    byron ga

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2623682635.png
    just bought this new comp today. first install andup date was fine at 2.x mb/s
    when play would not launch the game. i deleted it and now re installing it and the patch in now .26mb/s

    just tried canceling the patch and restarting it now 2.35mb/s
  • 04-04-2013, 06:30 PM
    Gribbish
    really slow PC download
    PC
    Sunnyside, WA
    Download speed: 3MB/S upload:0.59MB/S Ping:74ms
    ISP: CenturyLink

    Patcher runs between 0.05mb/s and 0.15mb/s (max) averaging around 0.12
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