Do not buy tier 4 lockboxes! Buy tier 3 instead!

Yeah, tier 4 boxes seem like they cost WAY too many keys. I dunno.

Would really love to see an in depth response to this thread. Since character progression AND crafting all exist in the form of random chance item lock boxes it would seem paramount to have some hard solid numbers on the data regarding them legendaries bo diddly. I like orange loot, I like 4 slot unlocks, I like phat stats attributes and named weapons broskee!

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Originally Posted by illgot

People should be posting their rank when buying the boxes. You may have a zero percent chance to get an orange below a certain level.

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I got my orange shotgun very early in the game. When I accidentally mass-claimed those lockbox rewards from arkfall codes/Steam/Gamestop bitcard.

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Originally Posted by Incendio

• Tier 3 boxes cost 24 keys and give 3 items = 8 keys per item
• Tier 4 boxes cost 64 keys and give 4 items = 16 keys per item
• When you say Tier 4 has better chances, those chances have to be twice as good as Tier 3 boxes

• If each item in a Tier 3 box has a 5% chance to be legendary, then each item in a Tier 4 box must have a 10% or higher chance to be legendary; otherwise, Tier 4 become horrible purchases. It all comes down to the math of chance-of-legendary per key used
• It's all about getting legendaries, not epics

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Why are Epics worse than legendaries? And me I think 3 and 4 are switched in the programming if more rares (oranges etc) are appearing in tier 3

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Originally Posted by Venidicio

I got my orange shotgun very early in the game. When I accidentally mass-claimed those lockbox rewards from arkfall codes/Steam/Gamestop bitcard.

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Very cool to know, I may have to delete and recreate a new character to try this.

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Originally Posted by illgot

Very cool to know, I may have to delete and recreate a new character to try this.

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Don't delete your character! I hear that all those steam unlocks are not per account, but per character. You will lose bag space and all the perks you got and the car.

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Originally Posted by TurkeyBurgers

Don't delete your character! I hear that all those steam unlocks are not per account, but per character. You will lose bag space and all the perks you got and the car.

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We have access to more than one character. I'll try this with an extra one, not the one I got to 400 :)

Looted a legendary grenade from a tier 1 box. was pretty shocked.

You can just make a second character, no need to delete. There is an arrow under your character, click that and you can make a new one.

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Originally Posted by Incendio

• Tier 3 boxes cost 24 keys and give 3 items = 8 keys per item
• Tier 4 boxes cost 64 keys and give 4 items = 16 keys per item
• When you say Tier 4 has better chances, those chances have to be twice as good as Tier 3 boxes

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This. It's really basic statistics, so to make the higher tier lockboxes worth getting, the chance of getting a better grade drop needs to be representative of what we spent on it. I'd like to see an official response with actual figures on the drop rate.

I've opened a T4, and ended up getting 3 blues and a purple, while in the 3 T3 boxes, I got a purple, mostly blues, and a few greens.