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  • 04-03-2013, 05:54 PM
    whyman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DustOfDeath View Post
    Also dont forget that you can refine all the junk weapons = gulanite and 1k gulanite = 1 key - so tier 3 box would be even mroe cost effective.

    How do i do that?
    This game dosent learn me anything, kind of cool but i feel like im missing stuff!
  • 04-03-2013, 05:58 PM
    SMIRL
    just opened 5x T4 boxs all green and blue minus the 1 purple (Flash gren)
  • 04-03-2013, 05:58 PM
    TurkeyBurgers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athelan View Post
    The highest tier lockboxes will never give uncommon items. This is one of the reason to go for them over the middle tier.

    Can you give us the percentage chances of legendary drops from each tier of lockbox please?
  • 04-03-2013, 05:58 PM
    RawrKitty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athelan View Post
    The highest tier lockboxes will never give uncommon items. This is one of the reason to go for them over the middle tier.

    this is NOT true, i opened a tier 4 today and got TWO uncommons.
  • 04-03-2013, 06:02 PM
    Food4zombies
    I have gotten all the lock box tiers and got my purple Lmg out of a lvl 2
  • 04-03-2013, 06:04 PM
    ShadowCyd3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXKkY...ature=youtu.be

    two greens?
  • 04-03-2013, 06:06 PM
    TurkeyBurgers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RawrKitty View Post
    this is NOT true, i opened a tier 4 today and got TWO uncommons.

    The loot system appears broken.
  • 04-03-2013, 07:33 PM
    Sledgehammer70
    Tier 4 has a much better chance of getting epics and a slightly increased chance of getting legendaries.
  • 04-03-2013, 07:40 PM
    Philote
    I dunno about this. I had the same idea, but on my first tier 4 box, I got an orange weapon. I've never gotten one from a tier 3.
  • 04-03-2013, 07:49 PM
    ChaosOneX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TurkeyBurgers View Post
    I have not tried out tier one in any experimental manner and don't know if anyone else has either. If anyone has gotten a legendary from a tier one please post it here.


    Orange shotty from t1
  • 04-03-2013, 07:55 PM
    atlantix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TurkeyBurgers View Post
    I have not tried out tier one in any experimental manner and don't know if anyone else has either. If anyone has gotten a legendary from a tier one please post it here.

    i only buy tier 2
    and got 2x orange , 4x purple and bunch of blue and green..
    im rank 500+ so opened many boxes but seems same loot
  • 04-03-2013, 08:07 PM
    Nezumi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Exes View Post
    Yeah I would like to see an official post on this, and if the higher tier boxes in fact have higher chances for more rare loot then put it in the damn tool tip. A lot of information in this game is simply non existent. Like I started to finish some contracts and nothing explains what the hell it is. Then stores get new looking currencies that I can't find in my char information and that I do not know what it is and how I get it.

    It really lacks descriptions for the most basic things.

    What contracts are and how they tie into the factions, as well as the existence of faction reputations, are all covered in the "help" tab of the Intel window. It's not that the information's not there, it's that you didn't find it. Really, the Help tab has lots of information on nearly everything, including (especially) stuff that isn't directly covered in in-game tutorials.
  • 04-03-2013, 08:56 PM
    Incendio
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70 View Post
    Tier 4 has a much better chance of getting epics and a slightly increased chance of getting legendaries.

    • Tier 3 boxes cost 24 keys and give 3 items = 8 keys per item
    • Tier 4 boxes cost 64 keys and give 4 items = 16 keys per item
    • When you say Tier 4 has better chances, those chances have to be twice as good as Tier 3 boxes
    • If each item in a Tier 3 box has a 5% chance to be legendary, then each item in a Tier 4 box must have a 10% or higher chance to be legendary; otherwise, Tier 4 become horrible purchases. It all comes down to the math of chance-of-legendary per key used
    • It's all about getting legendaries, not epics
  • 04-04-2013, 12:37 AM
    illgot
    At rank 370 I received two oranges out of a T4 box.
  • 04-04-2013, 12:49 AM
    bobalock
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CoffeeCake View Post
    Here are the results from about 40 T2 chests.

    G - green
    B - blue
    P - purple
    O - Orange

    GP
    GB
    GG
    GB
    GG
    GG
    GG
    GG
    GO
    GG
    GP
    GB
    GB
    GB
    GG
    GB
    GB
    GG
    GP
    GP
    GG
    GG
    GG
    GG
    GB
    GG
    GG
    BB
    GG

    Keep up the good work in documenting kind sir, This is a very amazing stat right here. One orange our of 30 boxeish... thats very low, thats 1 out of 60. I know my friend on his first tier 4 got an orange, and when I tested tier 4 in beta, I bought 5 of them and got 3 oranges. I would like to see a similar breakdown of tier 3 as this guy did.
  • 04-04-2013, 12:51 AM
    Aetrion
    I bought a Tier 4 lockbox and got an organge assault rifle, but my character is only around 320 ego rating.

    I like that the keys are limited, because that way you can buy lockboxes at low levels.
  • 04-04-2013, 01:00 AM
    illgot
    People should be posting their rank when buying the boxes. You may have a zero percent chance to get an orange below a certain level.
  • 04-04-2013, 01:08 AM
    Hostile
    ow are you peple affording to buy so many lockboxes to begin with?

    Seriously......too much time on ur hands
  • 04-04-2013, 01:12 AM
    RextintorZ
    I always buy Tier 3 Lockboxes. Costs less keys than the Tier 4 and you can buy at least two of them instead of only one Tier 4.

    Before this last time the server went down, I got an orange Detonator in the Tier 3 lockbox. My EGO was 500 and something when I bought it, IIRC.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
    ow are you peple affording to buy so many lockboxes to begin with?

    Seriously......too much time on ur hands

    Do lots of arkfalls and random events on the map to get keycodes. As for money, do arkfalls, look for minibosses and do quests.


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  • 04-04-2013, 01:29 AM
    ltkowie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChaosOneX View Post
    Orange shotty from t1

    i got a orange grenade from teir 2 lock box so ya and my friend got 2 ornge infectors from a teir 2 so ya
  • 04-04-2013, 01:33 AM
    Jack Johnson
    Yeah, tier 4 boxes seem like they cost WAY too many keys. I dunno.
  • 04-04-2013, 01:35 AM
    TurkeyBurgers
    Would really love to see an in depth response to this thread. Since character progression AND crafting all exist in the form of random chance item lock boxes it would seem paramount to have some hard solid numbers on the data regarding them legendaries bo diddly. I like orange loot, I like 4 slot unlocks, I like phat stats attributes and named weapons broskee!
  • 04-04-2013, 01:42 AM
    Venidicio
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    People should be posting their rank when buying the boxes. You may have a zero percent chance to get an orange below a certain level.

    I got my orange shotgun very early in the game. When I accidentally mass-claimed those lockbox rewards from arkfall codes/Steam/Gamestop bitcard.
  • 04-04-2013, 01:43 AM
    Thunderclap
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Incendio View Post
    • Tier 3 boxes cost 24 keys and give 3 items = 8 keys per item
    • Tier 4 boxes cost 64 keys and give 4 items = 16 keys per item
    • When you say Tier 4 has better chances, those chances have to be twice as good as Tier 3 boxes
    • If each item in a Tier 3 box has a 5% chance to be legendary, then each item in a Tier 4 box must have a 10% or higher chance to be legendary; otherwise, Tier 4 become horrible purchases. It all comes down to the math of chance-of-legendary per key used
    • It's all about getting legendaries, not epics

    Why are Epics worse than legendaries? And me I think 3 and 4 are switched in the programming if more rares (oranges etc) are appearing in tier 3
  • 04-04-2013, 01:45 AM
    illgot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Venidicio View Post
    I got my orange shotgun very early in the game. When I accidentally mass-claimed those lockbox rewards from arkfall codes/Steam/Gamestop bitcard.

    Very cool to know, I may have to delete and recreate a new character to try this.
  • 04-04-2013, 01:50 AM
    TurkeyBurgers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    Very cool to know, I may have to delete and recreate a new character to try this.

    Don't delete your character! I hear that all those steam unlocks are not per account, but per character. You will lose bag space and all the perks you got and the car.
  • 04-04-2013, 01:51 AM
    illgot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TurkeyBurgers View Post
    Don't delete your character! I hear that all those steam unlocks are not per account, but per character. You will lose bag space and all the perks you got and the car.

    We have access to more than one character. I'll try this with an extra one, not the one I got to 400 :)
  • 04-04-2013, 01:57 AM
    Tyr Laguz
    Looted a legendary grenade from a tier 1 box. was pretty shocked.
  • 04-04-2013, 01:59 AM
    Vacu
    You can just make a second character, no need to delete. There is an arrow under your character, click that and you can make a new one.
  • 04-04-2013, 02:23 AM
    Noupoi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Incendio View Post
    • Tier 3 boxes cost 24 keys and give 3 items = 8 keys per item
    • Tier 4 boxes cost 64 keys and give 4 items = 16 keys per item
    • When you say Tier 4 has better chances, those chances have to be twice as good as Tier 3 boxes

    This. It's really basic statistics, so to make the higher tier lockboxes worth getting, the chance of getting a better grade drop needs to be representative of what we spent on it. I'd like to see an official response with actual figures on the drop rate.

    I've opened a T4, and ended up getting 3 blues and a purple, while in the 3 T3 boxes, I got a purple, mostly blues, and a few greens.
  • 04-04-2013, 02:27 AM
    KashraFall
    Got a Purple from Tier 3, and a orange from Tier 4. I don't really think the tier matters but I do think that is does increase the probability of you finding something a little more than normal within the higher tiers. It is all luck based though so you are welcome to throw countless hours into farming lockboxes or you can simply get them when you get the chance.
  • 04-04-2013, 02:30 AM
    Saraya
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Exes View Post
    It really lacks descriptions for the most basic things.

    Or simply, it lacks most basic things.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:39 AM
    Fenix
    Example

    TIER----NUMBER OF CHANCES----COST----% CHANCE----OVERALL % CHANCE----RATIO OF COST
    --2-----------------2-------------------8-----------0.5-------------------1-----------------------1--------
    --3-----------------3------------------24-----------1.0-------------------3-----------------------3--------
    --4-----------------4------------------64-----------2.0-------------------8-----------------------8--------

    So the cost correlates to your overall percentage chance of getting a legendary perfectly, if the individual percentage chance follows the same ratio (T4 is 4 times greater than T2 and twice as big as T3).
  • 04-04-2013, 03:42 PM
    Phantasma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TurkeyBurgers View Post
    In fact someone else running this same experiment got their first legendary item from, you guessed it a TIER 3 LOCKBOX and NOT from a tier 4 lockbox!

    I got a legendary Grenade mod today from 2x Tier 3 lockboxes and even an epic shield too.
  • 04-04-2013, 03:47 PM
    Solyad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    Example

    TIER----NUMBER OF CHANCES----COST----% CHANCE----OVERALL % CHANCE----RATIO OF COST
    --2-----------------2-------------------8-----------0.5-------------------1-----------------------1--------
    --3-----------------3------------------24-----------1.0-------------------3-----------------------3--------
    --4-----------------4------------------64-----------2.0-------------------8-----------------------8--------

    So the cost correlates to your overall percentage chance of getting a legendary perfectly, if the individual percentage chance follows the same ratio (T4 is 4 times greater than T2 and twice as big as T3).

    Where did you get those % Chance numbers?
  • 04-04-2013, 03:59 PM
    Orge Lambart
    pfft don't do that or else they'll just increase the cost of Tier 3 boxes, as opposed to lowering the cost of Tier 4 boxes... pfft don't you guys know business 101 here?
  • 04-04-2013, 04:04 PM
    SYNDICATE
    yea right now I have a orange rare gun for every type of weapon and for shotguns and smg I have three orange for each. if anybody wants any orange smg or shotguns hit me up on xbox 360 my gamertag is--- I CAMP ANYWHERE
  • 04-04-2013, 04:09 PM
    Digital Tetsuo
    i can vouch for the OP....tier 3 the 1st time buying one-LEGENDARY shotty......tier 4 i ended up buying 2 and got yellows and a purple(which wasnt better than my selected assault rifle and not worth shtako as far as scrip). second tier three i get a purple that IS worth something(a shield with high capacity AND a quick recharge cooldown)

    after the serious bugs and server issues this needs to be addressed
  • 04-04-2013, 05:36 PM
    Noupoi
    The highest tier I've gotten out of all the lockboxes (2-4) I've brought so far is purple.

    I also went and brought 8 tier 2 boxes to see what I got. I ended up with 9 greens, 6 blues, and 1 purple. So with my luck, I probably would have been better off getting tier 3's. This is a small sample size, so take it as you will.


    What does everyone think of trying to get a small project going where people can enter what they get from each tier of lockboxes, and with enough data, we might be able to see what the drop rates are like?
  • 04-04-2013, 06:26 PM
    Skeety
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Noupoi View Post
    What does everyone think of trying to get a small project going where people can enter what they get from each tier of lockboxes, and with enough data, we might be able to see what the drop rates are like?

    I have a feeling the data would be useless without also tracking EGO, which I suspect affects the chances of getting a more rare drop. I hate RNG.:p
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