Ilove working as a team clearing the maps. but with so many different ways to glich /race threw hardly anyone clears them anymore. how aboutlets say 30 ark at the end if cleared as bonus.
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Ilove working as a team clearing the maps. but with so many different ways to glich /race threw hardly anyone clears them anymore. how aboutlets say 30 ark at the end if cleared as bonus.
They are not going to give us extra arkforge in any way possible . They will only find ways to take it away
Would be nice. Ark Forge may persuade some players and
maybe people would actually que up for EXPERT Co-Op and I could
earn some CORES. Would mind a lil AF for completing events
like Minor Ark Falls.. by my self.
I can finish certain expert maps in under 5 minutes I would truly enjoy being able to get triple that number currently provided.
Arkforge based on score would give a reason to do the maps properly.
But I don't have any hopes for it. Prior to encryption many players have depleted their forge stocks in anticipation of the changes, and this after it became much harder to acquire any from lockboxes.
I strongly suspect something will be coming that will compel us to buy forge from the store.
ARK FORGE IN PvP!!!!!
TRION!!!!
ARK FORGE IN PvP!!!
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ZA !!!
ARK FORGE IN PvP!!!!!
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Defo needs that as the queue times would be shorter and would give some incentive to do co-op properly
Can't see it happening tho!
What is that going to solve? You clear a co-op with glitches in 2 minutes. Rinse and repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxxmingoxxxx
You honestly think those players will switch to a 15 minute grind, which they already did a zillion of times, for 3x arkforge? Get real. And running/teleporting off the map is a pretty old method of doing co-ops.
It's unfair to take that away from veterans who have been doing the content over and over again.
We deserve that 40k arkforge. That you don't have it just means you are n00b.
some of you didnt read correctly .I said clear maps that means shoot all the bad guys. as for not fairto vets . im pretty sure glitching decoying bluring ahead of the other players without asking isnt playing as intended.my thought was to give players a reason to play as a team again.
Ah right, so asking the other players makes it OK, right? I might be afraid I misunderstood.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxxmingoxxxx
second thought the hole game is play over and over again were have you been.
Even then, my expert Co-ops don't amount to team play. It's usually me killing everything, one guy trying to figure out which way to point his gun, another guy trying to kill things with explosives but usually only himself, and the last guy being so amazed at my character's rating and how fast I kill things, he's just standing there watching. Best. Team. Ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxxmingoxxxx
Are you sure it is your Characters EGO they are in AWE about?Quote:
Originally Posted by SirServed
Sounds like you got just as much EGO in RL.
Could be the reason you don't enjoy playing as a team member.
Now that the game is so damn pay 2 win, the co-op maps are more a chore I do for reputation than anything else now. The high EGO ppl will always top the chart unless they use some UP weapon. All people do is use the most OP boring weapons and chew through the limited numbers of enemies with high fire rate bullet hoses or high burst dmg weapons like snipers, and race to the finish. If you want to keep up with the pack you can't even stop long enough to pick up ammo from an ammo crate. It's ******ed and 0 fun.
It used to be you could get a good weapon drop in the first 20 min of the game and that weapon would remain useful 1000s of EGO later. Now a weapon is horribly UP (underpowered) within 500 EGO of picking it up. With the tiny trickle of Arkforge I can't keep even a couple of fav weapons up to date with my level, let alone my inventory.
Instead of making me want to run and buy 1000 Arkforge for more than $20 US, this just makes me think "**** Arkforge" and just run with whatever drops. You can top charts with any ol' weapon as long as it's the right type. So bloody boring. I'd like to be able to use a variety of weapons, but with the way the game is set up now, you need to use one of a very limited selection, or you'll be out-scored easily.
My main char is over 2500 EGO, and I've never got a useful Orange drop from a lock box. Only a sawed off shottie, a pump shottie, and a ****ing magnum rofl. *rolls eyes* I'd NEVER pay real money for that ****.
When you join an expert co-op and the most one player usually says during the run is "please skip cutscenes with escape", that makes all the difference, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flank
Real playahs don't pay for Arkforge and they certainly wouldn't team with the likes of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiketheShoreandtheSea
The likes of me lol? Why the butthurt? You're happy with the price TRION is asking for 1000 digital currency that will only upgrade a handful of weapons, if? My point was I'd never pay that, even though that's the thrust of a whole bunch of changes TRION is making to the weapon upgrade system to incentivize such purchases.
I am just stating a lot of high EGO players wouldn't pay for arkforge because they don't need to. If you think OP weapon differences between low and high EGO players is an issue in a thread about teaming in expert co-ops, then again, you will never play with those players. It's just me pointing out there are more pressing issues to fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiketheShoreandtheSea
Despite how you feel about them making Arkforge available through the store, it's a sound business decision. Not everyone can play the game all day, every day. If they're better at making RL money than earning Arkforge, it's an option. Not everyone knows how to min/max their character and get maximum rewards out of activities. It's still an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiketheShoreandtheSea
Imagine patch 1.5 being deployed and there NOT being an option to buy Arkforge from the store. Someone, even if only one person, would eventually ask for it. Vote with your wallet, no need to make a scene.
I have no problem with them offering Arkforge for money. The problem is the outrageous amount of money they're asking for what little that amount of 1s and 0s will do for you ingame. I'd like to be able to purchase items from the store and feel good about them. In the current system that is mostly impossible. At least they dropped the prices on a few select older outfits. I managed to buy a couple items from their that were reasonable (1$-2$ range). Items that I had my eye on for a while but used to be priced for $11 bucks or more... yep.
As far as expert co-op is concerned, I don't have any character high enough EGO to join one alone, and so I am forever locked off from making the 50 rep the weekly offers, in spite of sinking hundreds of hours into the game already. I think that stinks. My experience thus far has been in the standard coops, where I play with 5000+ EGOs still more often than not. I have nothing against high EGO players personally, other than that TRION has set them up to be the ultimate trolls of fun with the current threat level system, and the damage difference between their weapons & stats and mine that they implemented.
Frankly my post wasn't really about high level EGO chars anyway, and more about how limited the weapon selection is if you want to be able to actually shoot and dmg an nme in the standard co-op before they're already dead, let alone kill anything. And that's not necessarily EGO related, just how the game is set-up atm.
Nothing worse than starting a mission, and starting to enjoy yourself until a high level player simply drives by or maybe shoots 2 or 3 nmes and leaves, and shoots the threat level through the roof so that the nmes become bullet sponges and what would have been a pleasant way to spend 20 min or so becomes a 45-60 min ordeal slowly whittling them down one by one parked within convenient reach of an ammo crate the entire time. Better to just log out and restart the mission, losing the progress you made previously. Yep. :/
If you don't like my feedback to TRION on my personal experience with their current set-up in Defiance, tough cookies. They can't make the game better if they don't know what people don't like/aren't enjoying about their game now.
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Originally Posted by SirServed
My friend.. your Co-Op tactics and etiquette was not in question.
Guess arrogance can cause blindness.
The way I see it.. with this update/patch.. Encryption weapons.. and upgrading..
Buying ArkForge from Bit Store isn't a big deal.
seeing as it will be bought to increase level of items, rather then the rarity.
Due to Encryption items.
If these Encrypted weapons drop more then unencrypted of the same rarity.
I use a VOT Needler, it mows things down. No personal ego involved, it's a numbers thing.
I like the idea of earning a little Af for completing a playthrough of the co-op maps. Not that I think it will ever happy, it certainly has merit in my book.
I think a bonus for clearing the map is an excellent idea.
Yes I should have said something more along these lines, CLEARING the map. I love the co-op's and run many times a day helping out clan and even those in zone now and then to clear and complete them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack Shepard