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  • 08-06-2014, 02:04 AM
    jackdaws_1999
    A friend just bought one, he got 2 craptastic Blues not worth a mention (both encrapted), an epic Disruptor with double accuracy recoil stowed weapon, and an epic afflictor double reload recoil stowed weapon... Both encrapted. He got No outfit, No arkforge. He isnt very happy... especially as that was 1/3rd of his money evaporated into the mists of time...

    Still, at least he only bought 10 keys from the lockbox to get that, imagine if he had bought all 48 :)

    Trion special...

    sorry typo there, meant to say Trion's Special... with a lisp.
  • 08-06-2014, 02:09 AM
    PimplyPete
    Guys there's a logical explanation for all this. Trion is trying to make people quit so they can have a reason to shut down the servers for the game. Don't let them succeed, keep playing and pursue that "longer more fulfilling chase". *Insert sarcasm :rolleyes:
  • 08-06-2014, 02:12 AM
    Chump Norris
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PimplyPete View Post
    Guys there's a logical explanation for all this. Trion is trying to make people quit so they can have a reason to shut down the servers for the game. Don't let them succeed, keep playing and pursue that "longer more fulfilling chase". *Insert sarcasm :rolleyes:

    This game is like a bad car accident.

    Its really terrible but I cant look away.
  • 08-06-2014, 02:21 AM
    Johnny Gatt
    Photo not a joke
    The photo of the corporate espionage box was not a joke. I saw it myself in the lockbox vendor. I heard it was dropping greens. I did not buy one myself because a million scrip gets a really decent oj from another player.
    Trion needs to understand the perception of value and what it means to the consumer. By the way, players are consumers and they wield considerable power when a company fails to stay relevent and/or alienates them in this highly competitive market. Someone at Trion needs to take a few minutes and read the latest Gallup polls on consumer spending trends. Maybe then they can understand why people are so upset.
  • 08-06-2014, 02:27 AM
    Johnny Gatt
    I have been playing for a year and I am starting to think the same way. It almost seems as though they are deliberately antagonizing their customer base. Who else insults their customer base and expects to remain profitable? I think they want to close down and re-direct assets to Rift.
  • 08-06-2014, 02:32 AM
    ColapsN7
    patch 2.201

    Corporate Espionage Lockbox
    360 bits <~> 75.000 script 45 key

    norm .
  • 08-06-2014, 02:45 AM
    Random Gamer
    I got a few boxes, blue weapons with those new synergy types. Nothing of real interest.


    "Almost on the verge of finishing all my Scrip... I was hypnotized, mindless, overcoming greed for the final price... a little bird sound woke me up from my actions, that pure sound, mostly annoying... And there in front of me, the box of evil, glancing with greed. I woke from that illusion, no bird to be seen. Undesirable outcome, no price, but happy to be alive with a hole in my pocket".
  • 08-06-2014, 02:46 AM
    Faelx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColapsN7 View Post
    patch 2.201

    Corporate Espionage Lockbox
    360 bits <~> 75.000 script 45 key

    norm .

    Is this a suggestion or dream or something real? I don't see any new patchnotes. On PTS this lockbox cost 50k and it was a good price.
  • 08-06-2014, 02:50 AM
    MR RnFnR
    Destiny couldn't come any quicker.
  • 08-06-2014, 02:52 AM
    jackdaws_1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Faelx View Post
    Is this a suggestion or dream or something real? I don't see any new patchnotes. On PTS this lockbox cost 50k and it was a good price.

    as it currently stands in game, this new lockbox is 1million scrip... the person you were quoting was being hopeful.. extremely optimistic.
  • 08-06-2014, 03:18 AM
    Monkerlotus
    They made this change to get people to play Firefall.
  • 08-06-2014, 03:31 AM
    SilverWF
    Lol, 1 mil scrip...
    Are their lead designer becomes addict or what? Who created this price?
    Lol, just LOL!
  • 08-06-2014, 03:36 AM
    ColapsN7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SilverWF View Post
    Lol, 1 mil scrip...
    Are their lead designer becomes addict or what? Who created this price?
    Lol, just LOL!

    полностью стобой согласен .
    я разочарован.

    решают вопросы < ! bits ! > .
  • 08-06-2014, 03:36 AM
    hiban
    http://s17.postimg.org/nfa9n05i7/Untitled.png


    One Million?

    http://www.asianjunkie.com/wp-conten...nSmithROFL.gifhttp://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m41vs1uREI1r8txqq.gif

    OMG! Trion logic strikes again!
  • 08-06-2014, 03:38 AM
    SilverWF
    Did you seen new reputation boxes?
    100 (ONE HUNDRED) rep for 600 (540 for patrons) bits! Lol! Who will buy it? Addicts?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColapsN7 View Post
    полностью стобой согласен .
    я разочарован.

    < ! bits ! >

    Да, ппц, была норм игра и на тебе...
  • 08-06-2014, 03:42 AM
    Yrkul
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Monkerlotus View Post
    They made this change to get people to play Firefall.

    Took another spin in my mammoth frame. It was glorious. :)
  • 08-06-2014, 03:47 AM
    ColapsN7
    Поживем — увидим

    етака 10 или 40 дней.
  • 08-06-2014, 04:42 AM
    RextintorZ
    It's all about the Defiance Store for Trion now. F*** the regular players, they want the rich players.
  • 08-06-2014, 04:49 AM
    jackdaws_1999
    I have finally figured it out... the corporate espionage box is actually made by a rival MMO company, the problems trion have had with Defiance is nothing to do with poor programming, the player|developer disconnect, and a lack of direction, all our problems are due to some nasty corporate espionage taking place within the gaming community in an attempt to sully the name of our great and wonderful saviour Trick "Grenades" Dempsey.... All Hain the all father, all hail "GRENADES DEMPSEY"!


    Or Not.
  • 08-06-2014, 04:53 AM
    Smokey Greenleaf
    the lockboxes aren't worth buying in the first place. the weapons are the same junk that have existed in the game from day one, almost always 4 blue quality drops, and the synergies SUCK. they used the 7th legion theme which requires you to match both weapons and your shield to that synergy to get any bonuses at all, and the only one that seems slightly feasible is wetwork (which provides armor penetration) they sold on the test server for 50 keycodes, 10K ark salvage, and 10K scrip, and even then it was still a huge ripoff.
  • 08-06-2014, 04:57 AM
    mr8liner
    All I have to say is that ON-ONE should buy anything from the store at all.

    IF we all really don't like these new changes, the only way we might be able to get them to revert back is for them to lose money.


    I will go to the store and spend some money now, but it won't be Trions store and it will be another game.
  • 08-06-2014, 06:02 AM
    Daimian
    Heartbroken.
    10 mil worth of corp lockboxs net only one shield?
    but with all the synergies available in it it could take 100 mil or more to find a working set!
    I have been telling my self for months, this is a great ship, not even the Titanic could weather hitting so many icebergs, surely someone will take notice and tweak the navigation system, add some oversight...

    I expected this to come in the form of arkscrap since there is an extreme abundance due to balancing issues.
    Sure this isn't a mistake?!
  • 08-06-2014, 06:07 AM
    NeuroticHitman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TriGlav 2000 View Post
    It costs 1.000.000 scrip !!!!

    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...w%2Blocbox.bmp

    The DISCONNECT between the company and the players grows YET AGAIN! I suppose this is in an attempt to equalize the playing field...Bring the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" a little bit closer together. What a joke!!!
  • 08-06-2014, 06:14 AM
    Pandur
    Honestly some guaranteed outfits or stuff would be ok for 1 million scrip. The game could use a gold(scrip sink).
    Making the random lotteries(I expect this box is one too) the scrip sinks is completely disconnected though.
  • 08-06-2014, 06:17 AM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nexx View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQrp...ature=youtu.be

    Here I showcase the amazing loot you receive from the new Corporate Espionage Lockboxes.

    Thanks for the public service statement, sir... definitely some amazing loot showcased in that video. :rolleyes:
  • 08-06-2014, 06:23 AM
    ColonelJack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RextintorZ View Post
    It's all about the Defiance Store for Trion now. F*** the regular players, they want the rich players.

    Well I'm not rich by first world standards, but still have a fairly large potential entertainment budget, I think they're fishing for stupid as my grandpa would say, or as it has also been said:
    "Gambling is a tax on those who are bad at math."

    I haven't been a consistent player and haven't been keeping up, all these moves are obviously crazy, but they've even failed in other ways like having no fat Bits stipend in the monthly subscription plan, it's hard for me to believe people are actually paying for what amounts to little more than 20% boosts? They're very stingy with the Bits and it's hurting them, and they're getting desperate and sadly keep making all the wrong decisions.


    People need to just stop paying real money straight up for lockboxes, I don't care if 4 oranges and a banana pop out it's not worth real money, the game is fun (read: MORE FUN) without min-maxing.

    Still ... can't believe their subscription model, and how insulated and ridiculous the cash shop currency is... who in the world has been buying that stuff??

    If I was in charge I'd make fast emergency changes:
    Pledge to listen more and do better by the playerbase.
    drop the price of things in the bit store.
    add a very fat stipend of Bits to the subscriptions.
    Possibly add an ingame<->Bits currency exchange and just take arkforge out of the Bit store all together to carry the change.
    fix all the stuff Trion just broke, like the hearts of so many regular players with this patch.
  • 08-06-2014, 06:24 AM
    reapermech
    wow 1 million scrip? seriously ! well thats an easy thing to deal with .. not buying that overpriced box will stick to tier 3 boxes after farming arkfalls. Trion what are you doing ? are you trying to push the player base to other games
  • 08-06-2014, 06:30 AM
    Pandur
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nexx View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQrp...ature=youtu.be

    Here I showcase the amazing loot you receive from the new Corporate Espionage Lockboxes.

    Hahahahahaha...............ok ok.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    I only wonder when Trion is finally gonna announce the date when they were taken over by PWE.
  • 08-06-2014, 06:33 AM
    ColonelJack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pandur View Post
    Hahahahahaha...............ok ok.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    I only wonder when Trion is finally gonna announce the date when they were taken over by PWE.

    what would that mean for archeage, this stuff actually has me a bit concerned about archeage and is helping to keep me away from it for the time being. ;p
  • 08-06-2014, 06:36 AM
    Tallon
    Well, I guess it's working as intended. They didn't want us hoarding scrip and salvage so they introduce more expensive crap boxes. and then jack up the normal tier 2, 3, 4 crap boxes.
    I have no intention of being herded into buying bits, and am now done buying anything with scrip and salvage.
  • 08-06-2014, 06:37 AM
    NeuroticHitman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    Thanks for the public service statement, sir... definitely some amazing loot showcased in that video. :rolleyes:

    Agreed! Thanks for the video nexx! What a bunch of shysters!!!
  • 08-06-2014, 06:43 AM
    Tallon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeuroticHitman View Post
    The DISCONNECT between the company and the players grows YET AGAIN! I suppose this is in an attempt to equalize the playing field...Bring the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" a little bit closer together. What a joke!!!

    It looks like they are trying to eliminate the "Haves" altogether. I'm actually surprised they haven't pulled the old "Now that we are going FTP, we are resetting all accounts to 0"
  • 08-06-2014, 06:48 AM
    NeuroticHitman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallon View Post
    It looks like they are trying to eliminate the "Haves" altogether. I'm actually surprised they haven't pulled the old "Now that we are going FTP, we are resetting all accounts to 0"

    This coffin is just about completely nailed shut...
  • 08-06-2014, 06:59 AM
    ConcreteSnake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeuroticHitman View Post
    This coffin is just about completely nailed shut...

    grenades, the gun patch, score system, scaling, warmaster changes......i have stayed through all of it, but this one takes the cake (the cake is a lie). Increase the in game price on everything and then take away all our rewards too? I just don't see an incentive to play this game anymore. I usually try to play 2-4 hours a night, with the new rewards systems I could grind events all night and still end up with about arkforge to reset the mastery on one gun and maybe buy one T4 lockbox, this is a joke. I really see no reason to play anymore and am quite saddened at how they chose to kill this game. Longer more fulfilling cash grab. I felt sick to my stomach last night that I didn't even make it to silicon valley, this game is dead to me now.
  • 08-06-2014, 07:14 AM
    Kershoc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ConcreteSnake View Post
    grenades, the gun patch, score system, scaling, warmaster changes......i have stayed through all of it, but this one takes the cake (the cake is a lie). Increase the in game price on everything and then take away all our rewards too? I just don't see an incentive to play this game anymore. I usually try to play 2-4 hours a night, with the new rewards systems I could grind events all night and still end up with about arkforge to reset the mastery on one gun and maybe buy one T4 lockbox, this is a joke. I really see no reason to play anymore and am quite saddened at how they chose to kill this game. Longer more fulfilling cash grab. I felt sick to my stomach last night that I didn't even make it to silicon valley, this game is dead to me now.

    This describes myself as well. After having tested this patch on the PTS I was looking forward to logging in last night. After I did however... All the fun was instantly sapped out of the game. I didn't even bother to run my dailies. After being a solid supporter of Trion and their game for well over a year, they finally figured out how to get me out of their camp. What is even worse... They will have lost my support for their other titles as well. Plenty of other fish in the sea.
  • 08-06-2014, 09:57 AM
    Mosche
    Ok. It is really hard to understand this patch as anything but a desperate cash grab. Whoever is in charge behind this insulting patch is seriously harming the reputation of Trion. My rather fond memories of Rift are being replaced by disgust for the greed shown in this game.

    Insulting your customers is NOT a good way to get them to spend money on your products.
  • 08-06-2014, 10:10 AM
    Copperpot
    What would you do with a million scrip?
    http://media0.giphy.com/media/jtO29JJcMO4hy/200.gif
  • 08-06-2014, 10:32 AM
    TalynOne
    Scapes addresses the issue here:

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...00-scrip/page2

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scapes View Post
    Yes, one million scrip. Why? We wanted to create an additional path to these weapons and their synergies for dedicated players who didn't want to purchase the Corporate Espionage Lock Box via the Bit Store.

  • 08-06-2014, 10:35 AM
    430005
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nexx View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQrp...ature=youtu.be

    Here I showcase the amazing loot you receive from the new Corporate Espionage Lockboxes.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Scapes View Post
    We wanted to create an additional path to these weapons and their synergies for dedicated players who didn't want to purchase the Corporate Espionage Lock Box via the Bit Store.

    http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/...ps57ab8f83.gif

    (Thanks Bonehead :))
  • 08-06-2014, 10:42 AM
    aCeCookie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TalynOne View Post
    Yeah, of course they put in that change last minute without letting PTS people see it. It costs $5 in the bit store. They just want people buying it and are making it prohibitive to do it using in game currency. They might as well make it 5 trillion script.

    5 trion* scrip
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