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  • 08-12-2014, 01:34 AM
    horup79
    The end of Defiance!! or even the end of Trion??
    Well aware that this post most likely will get removed and med banned from the forums, I still have to speak up.
    I would like to state that I do enjoy playing defiance and I do like the concept of the game.
    But when that is said, of late, latest changes have made this game uninteresting to me.

    I will now list some of the reasons why Defiance has reached this status to me.

    1) Empty servers.
    Defiance is a MMO. There for the servers should be crowded. A game must hold some sort of co-op before it is interesting to me. I want to play games with my friends and meet new friends. I see the empty servers as a respond, from the gaming community, to Trion as a farewell. And many of my friends have said that and wowed they will never buy another Trion game again.

    2) Pay-to-win
    The free-to-play bit is to me a cover-up for introducing Pay-to-win. We see this as the drastically reduced numbers of keycodes and arkforge, which have been made essential in order to get better weapons. Top this up with the outrageous prices we are offered to buy the illusive arkforge and we got the worst concept in gaming. Pay-to-win.

    3) No fun playing
    The repetitive tasks/quests/pursuits etc. has made defiance boring. The has to been something new. Something to entertain us. Something to achieve.
    I will however agree that Trion is trying, but it is not working. As I see their efforts, we gamers are runners trying to do a race, and Trion, every time we get close to the finish line, they prolong the race. Same stuff just takes a bit longer. Boring!!
    Bring in something really new. Like clan halls and clan outfits and cars. Or let us make events, not just death marches, but incursions, sieges and arkfalls. Introduce weapon forging. And make it so everyone can afford it.

    4) Progress - Sense of purpose
    There also has to be an experience of progress. A sense of purpose. Both in game and on the forums.
    It is not very smart, for whatever reason, a statement was made that, we gamers, were playing the game wrong. To be fair, this is second hand information to me, but it goes very well in line with my other experiences. But if we gamers are not playing the game as Trion wishes, then try to change the game dynamics in a way for us to do so. Do not go blaming the community for undesired gaming behaviour when you, Trion, have the full control over the dynamics.
    Another thing. Making forums where we, gamers, can help you, Trion, to make the game work better by submitting error/bug reports, and many do, but we get ignored. At best we get a reply, but nothing gets fixed. Only bug that are beneficial to the gamers gets fixed. If Trion think they lose out on a bug, it gets fixed the day after. But when it improves the gaming experience it takes forever if it ever gets fixed.
    By going at it like that people gets the feeling that Trion do not care about their community, and the community are returning the favour.
    In game progress has been terminated as well. As I mentioned in 2) Pay-to-win, it is now nearly impossible to accumulate arkforge, which is essential for progress in Defiance. After the latest patches I would be lucky if I could get 500 arkforge in a month. Which to me is ridiculous, since the demand for arkforge is growing each day. 2 week ago I summed up my need for arkforge. If I was to upgrade all my weapons to highest rarity. You know what, I needed 34.000 arkforge. And this is not including any rerolls of a weapons mastery. This is wrong!! And my appreciation for does not cover that timeframe.

    Where does this leave me?
    I will most like get banned. Feeling a bit depressed that a game that could be so great is not. But still at peace, because I too, will not buy or spend any money on a Trion game ever again. I simply cannot see why. If Trion does not change how they treat their users, I won't participate. I cannot trust Trion not to screw me over again.
    But if Trion suddenly decides to wake up, and try to mend things by sorting out the issues I have with Defiance in its immediate state, I won't hesitate keep playing. Looking forward to what action Trion will take.
    Best of luck.

    Yours truly
    Horup79
  • 08-12-2014, 01:44 AM
    LegendaryU2K
    This game isn't paid to win. One of my characters is at 350 ego, and i have 6 great guns , 30keys, and over 50k. And i do just fine playing any mission, coop, pvp. As for no fun playing? are you serious? There's so much stuff to do, pvp, pve, coop with different maps, exploring, leveling up, helping people, nice story, lots of missions, side quests. etc.

    9/10 IMO
  • 08-12-2014, 01:50 AM
    horup79
    As you said yourself. You are ego 350. Im ego 5800. it gets repetitive...
    I can tell you do a lot of posts on the forums. Do you ever read some?
    All are say the same.. Defiance is done!
  • 08-12-2014, 02:25 AM
    jackdaws_1999
    Have to agree with Horup here, this game is 100% pay to win. Come back when you are higher ego and have tried to keep those guns at your level. Also your idea of good weapons will drastically change as you play the game. I know I started loving certain weapons, and now looking back, I had NO idea what was good and what was not.

    The other thing Horup forgot to mention is the LONG list of bugs that have Never been fixed, but break game play horribly... Houdini Enemies, Disconnects, Repo Car men, broken stats on guns, etc. etc. etc. There is such a long list of broken things about this game, its hard to come up with a list of things that they HAVE fixed, and I dont mean the things they SAY they have fixes, I mean Actually fixed...

    I love this game, I love the community, I hate the apathy that seems apparent from the developers, and the poor design decisions that come from one Mr Dempsey, I also hate the Complete Disconnect with the rest of the community the developers have. This game could be the best game on 360 and PS3 (Maybe not pc, as there is alot of competition), but console wise, this has the potential to be a MONSTER... but potential doesnt make a game... Ideas, caffine, hard graft, and alot of investment are what is required... trion seems to have the graft... but lack in all other areas.
  • 08-12-2014, 03:09 AM
    Dinova
    I roam around the place alot, but stuff like arkfall and incursion are always massive crowded and most daily missions i always see one or two peeps going along.

    Thing i never understand, people say its empty.. You ever been recently to The Barrens in WoW or alike? Its more deserted per square KM then this game.

    Go play Firefall after recent patch, then you know the definition of 'empty'.
    I've came back from Firefall, this game suddenly feels topnotch.
  • 08-12-2014, 03:20 AM
    Gigibop
    If you don`t know who i am then you clearly haven't played defiance much. This game has gone down the crapper, and the release of silicon valley was a joke. I drove around for an hour and did not even see another player. I suggest leaving now before you waste too much time. And this game isn't pay to win at all. I don't have anything special that a free player can't get and i still have no problems killing any player/boss/enemy in the game. (No dlc's here)
  • 08-12-2014, 03:24 AM
    crazyged
    I have to say, I have noticed a drop in the population, particularly at Arkfalls and incursions.

    It can still get busy, but that absolute chaos that used to reign is missing these days... I want that back!
  • 08-12-2014, 03:27 AM
    Marshal Law
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by horup79 View Post
    As you said yourself. You are ego 350. Im ego 5800. it gets repetitive...
    I can tell you do a lot of posts on the forums. Do you ever read some?
    All are say the same.. Defiance is done!

    No need to attack a new player who is enjoying the game. Everything you said is fine but remember it is YOUR opinion.
  • 08-12-2014, 03:50 AM
    Dinova
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gigibop View Post
    If you don`t know who i am then you clearly haven't played defiance much. This game has gone down the crapper, and the release of silicon valley was a joke. I drove around for an hour and did not even see another player. I suggest leaving now before you waste too much time. And this game isn't pay to win at all. I don't have anything special that a free player can't get and i still have no problems killing any player/boss/enemy in the game. (No dlc's here)

    Luckely the forums do not reflect most people i meet ingame..

    I once said last year, if i regret buying the game:
    Quote:

    Any given game at any given point, you will get bored. Take a break, do some other stuff and enjoy it later again.

    I have no regret at all.
    And that is exactly what i did, enjoying it far more then the previous times.
  • 08-12-2014, 04:09 AM
    Etaew
    It does look like we are on a downward trend after the release of F2P, I'm hoping that it levels off at a higher level than we had mid last season.

    I really wish we had a higher retention rate, and people rightly find faults with the end/elder game. I know the devs have some plans for this, but for new things we probably have to wait until the end of the TV season as they are tied up with crossover content.

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