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I know there have been several threads in our history with people posting screenshots of scoreboards, I work with databases and show forms based off the data collection there.
Based on what I do with lockbox collection I'd like to get a better picture of the current varieties and score thresholds for patch 2.204 based on this form:
http://www.defiancedata.com/score.php?contribute
I hope this helps you Etaew, i`m disgusted more and more with this game. I arrived at the end, killed 3 Warriors and murdered the Hellion. Noobs still don`t stand a chance, and we still rob them of their deserved scores.
http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/x...psf30acdbe.jpg
The specific data I'm collecting is:
- Activity
- Keys
- Arkforge
- Your opinion if the rewards justified your time investment
What exactly are the values at the top of the form?Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Also, scrip and XP values could be useful too.
You need to post your boosted score, not the leaderboard. Your rewards are based on the boosted score not the natural score.Quote:
Originally Posted by drackiller
The values at the top of the form are information gathered.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackTalons
Scrip and XP values can be calculated from the score, so I know that already.
This. Also, in the event the personal rewards screen doesn't show (like for co-ops), you can look at your chat feed to get your personal score if your "system" feed is on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deunan
I collected a lot of scores last night. Didn't collect a lot of higher scores but I believe there are two tiers for keycodes still.
First tier looks to be 7,500 score per key up to 30k. I haven't been able to figure Arkforge or the second tier of keycodes yet.
Here are all of my scores I recorded so far. None of these are Arkbreaks (which should still have keys and forge rewards reversed). I also have bonus clan key
Scores
18786: 3 keys
22760: 4 keys, 1 AF
25278: 4 keys, 1 AF
8979: 2 keys
13884: 2 keys
79725: 9 keys, 5 AF
113302: 12 keys, 8 AF
7992: 2 keys
7128: none
58437: 8 keys, 3 AF
42296: 5 keys, 2 AF
16400: 3 keys
28132: 4 keys, 1 AF
33167: 5 keys, 1 AF
**Edit** Just noticed you are doing the data collection on Defiance Data. I will post my scores there as well but I wanted to post feedback here.
Feedback - I didn't do as many events as I wanted last night. But based on the events I did I thought I got a pretty good picture. Overall I feel that the score changes were a step in the right direction. But there are still things that need to be improved. Mainly Major Arkfalls. The nerf to points on bosses was a little too severe and they aren't really worth the time it takes to do one.
Conflict Sites, Incursions, and Minor Arkfalls (if they go five waves) were pretty decent. I got 2 to 3 keys for the smaller ones and 4 to 5 keys for the bigger sites like North Point (as well as 1 forge).
I did a SF incursion (solo lol), only did last couple emergencies and the Siege, and got 113k. Doing full incursions might be worth the time if you can get 200k+ from them. That is pretty difficult to survive on PS3 though, unless you are freshly connected to the game, you'll likely get timed out before then. And if the incursion is in Marin... forget about doing the whole thing :rolleyes:.
Major Arkfalls got nerfed a little too hard though imo. I think something needs to be done - give us a higher teamwork points cap, a slightly higher killshot bonus, something.
And I get why they wanted to nerf the bosses. People would show up just for the Major, get their killshots, and if they broke the boss's armor they would easily take top spot by doing hardly anything. This is something that a lot of players would talk about on here actually. "Something isn't right... when you grab top score with 2 kills and get 200k score"... sound familiar?
*They did nerf armor plate break points so it doesn't give nearly as much as it used to. But the mechanic is still there.*
My 79k score from my list was me doing an entire Hellbug Uprising major. I did the 5 crystals solo, and two other high EGO players joined me at the boss, bringing the threat level to 9. About 50k of that score was from doing the minors leading up to the major. The rest of my score was from the boss fight with the Hellion and a few Warriors and Archers in the fight.
Another concern of mine with the new score system is that most of the time I was solo. I have yet to really do events with a lot of players (the shard system is screwed up again). And hearing from other players, and seeing other scoreboard pics of major arkfalls, scores are considerably lower than 79k for most major arkfalls I have seen. I saw a couple 60k+ scores from Dark Matter majors.
With the way higher threat level enemies would give you more points before I thought it encouraged people to play together and it was a good way to make sure there were more points for everyone. Like I said I haven't been in many events with a lot of people yet. But it might be a problem. Most players could end up with pretty poor rewards for an event with a lot of players.
I still think that keycode gains are worse than they were day one. At least it wasn't a stupid price to convert salvage to keycodes back then...
Yay, more data to contribute. ;) Seeing a better AF to Key ratio than before, otherwise feels the same so far.
edit: scrap that, incursions feel the same, arkfalls are meh.
there is a 1 keycode per 10k score
but Trion made a super ninja nerf and maximum keys you can get is 18+1
maximum arkfoge is 15
score 180k give you 19 keys
Score 500k give you 19 keys
thanks Trion
I can reveal that:
- XP: Is the same amount as Score (previously 1/2)
- Scrip 1:75 from score (previously 1:150)
- Keycodes every 7,500 up to 30k. Then every 12.5k after that.
- Arkforge every 22,500
- Keycode and Arkforge is reversed during Arkbreaks.
- There is a hardcap of 200k score for rewards.
Anything I've missed?
I guess for most events you probably aren't going to reach that high of a score anyways now :p. But yeah, it gets old, trying to figure how what exactly Trion did every patch...Quote:
Originally Posted by Epic Fail
Ah yeah, good catch on XP, forgot to mention that in my post. Arkforge isn't every 22,500 though, I have a 113k score on my list, where I got 12 keys and 8 arkforge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Oh also - for the clan bonus key. You get one bonus key for each keycode tier, so if you score 42,500+ (except for arkbreaks), you can get 2 bonus keys for the clan bonus.
What event did you get that score with?Quote:
Originally Posted by Epic Fail
Yeah, only after i posted i noticed that this was the wrong pic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deunan
I`ll try to post more tomorrow.
Seems to be every 13k minus a half. Rest looks good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Sutro Tower conflict siteQuote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Are you thinking about in Arkbreaks, as the Keycode and Arkforge calculations are reversed there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snib
Ah one of the infinite spawn ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by Epic Fail
Yes, one of themQuote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Nope, I mean "normal" order/events. Check the data posted here as well as what's submitted on your site again and you'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Etaew
Hellbug Major Arkfall
79883 score
7 Key Codes
5 Arkforge
Clanless so no key code bonuses are applicable.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5551/...8a689a78_c.jpg
Bump. I got a few more scores, and think I figured the pattern for the new system, but there are still some things I'm not positive on (like Arkbreaks or what score exactly you stop getting rewards).
First Keycode Tier
One key per 7500 score up to 30000
Second Keycode Tier
Starts at 42500 - One key every 12500 score
Arkforge Tier
Starts at 22500 - One Arkforge every 12500 score
Clan Bonus Key Info
One bonus key for each Tier. So you can get 2 bonus keys by scoring 42500 or higher with the clan bonus key active (clan rating 3000).
Hope this helps! Not 100% sure on these but scores I recorded all fit into this system.
57900 on expert Motherload and got:
-67697 XP
-8 keycodes ( w/clan bonus )
-14 arkforge
-1313 scrip
My husband and I have been trying to figure out what the plus symbol (+) signifies at the end of some scores. Can anyone enlighten us? It's driving me crazy!! Much thanks. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by drackiller
This means that this person is running a score boost. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by notsosaintly
The score on the reward screen however is the unboosted score. Only the person itself sees the "correct" score.
As far as I know it means that you have some sort of score boost (e.g. Patron Pass).Quote:
Originally Posted by notsosaintly
Ah, thank you both. That now makes perfect sense. :)