Patch and contents update concerns for PC players , Consoles politics NO THANKS !

We all know thats , Consoles are pain in the *** when it come to patch and update contents Both microsoft and sony ask for 2 weeks delay to have their QA aprooval wich is always mediocre and they still release the contents broken on those platform QA or not

But my concern here is do we will have to wait for Microsoft and Sony aprooval on consoles to have our update and ad on contents on PC , we saw EA recently using those kind of practice when the patch for pc was ready for about weeks , they have delay it to have a (( simultaneous launch )) across all platform

As a overall gamers ive always tough this QA from microsoft and sony was a bad joke and as a Futur defiance PC players i do not want to have to be limited by lame and stupid consoles politics such as their 2 to 3 week QA crap


Please do not make the pc community suffer from this delaying whats ready for us ;) thanks

I think you have to worry more about the show than consoles. The game and the show are interlinked.

I know exactly what you mean. If history shows us anything its that pc games still get patched/updates before consoles on other games. As this wont be crossplatform I don't see why this wouldn't still be the case.

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Originally Posted by Dead_Phoenix

I know exactly what you mean. If history shows us anything its that pc games still get patched/updates before consoles on other games. As this wont be crossplatform I don't see why this wouldn't still be the case.

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Given that they intend to coordinate much of the content with the show, I'm hoping they're going to be working out the content far enough in advance that it will be delayed for both.

If i ever see you post something that isn't bashing a console i may die of shock.

On Topic: I've known PC to always get their patches beforehand and I expect that to continue.
But if you are talking about gameplay updates & adding new features to the game, then i assume you will have to wait.

It won't kill y'all

First - unlike other games there are quite a few updates/patches we can apply that don't require Microsoft/Sony lead time as they are done on our servers/database.

Second - we've been working with these folks for a while and feel as though we have created a great working relationship that will hopefully aid everyone down the road.

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Originally Posted by Myll_Erik

Second - we've been working with these folks for a while and feel as though we have created a great working relationship that will hopefully aid everyone down the road.

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Are we talking about the same MS & Sony? *lol*?

You are both correct and incorrect, yes ms and Sony have their certification processes that Trion will have to put major fixes through before we get them. However, minor balance changes can be done server side the same way Mass Effect 3 does theirs.

I am going to assume that the add-ons for Defiance will be synchronized with each other, only if they have to do with anything happening In the show.

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Originally Posted by Myll_Erik

First - unlike other games there are quite a few updates/patches we can apply that don't require Microsoft/Sony lead time as they are done on our servers/database.

Second - we've been working with these folks for a while and feel as though we have created a great working relationship that will hopefully aid everyone down the road.

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good to know thanks!

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Originally Posted by Stew360

We all know thats , Consoles are pain in the *** when it come to patch and update contents Both microsoft and sony ask for 2 weeks delay to have their QA aprooval wich is always mediocre and they still release the contents broken on those platform QA or not

But my concern here is do we will have to wait for Microsoft and Sony aprooval on consoles to have our update and ad on contents on PC , we saw EA recently using those kind of practice when the patch for pc was ready for about weeks , they have delay it to have a (( simultaneous launch )) across all platform

As a overall gamers ive always tough this QA from microsoft and sony was a bad joke and as a Futur defiance PC players i do not want to have to be limited by lame and stupid consoles politics such as their 2 to 3 week QA crap


Please do not make the pc community suffer from this delaying whats ready for us ;) thanks

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i woudl think an MMO woudl be handled differently.. just look at Dust 514 on ps3

look at mass effect 3 the game had weekly fix ( now it bi-weekly) of nerf and buff and other fix or little stuff added . i don't see why defiance will be that different

well since it looks like sony/microsoft wont play ball in cross platform servers its very likely PC may not have to wait and will get non show involved patches early ( in fact they may test the new content with the PC and later release on the consoles). it could even be speculated that PS3 will get more updates than Xbox with the whole 40k price tag on a patch for Xbox, unless if they have a way of patching the game going around xbox live (or an agreement with microsoft).

Hopefully console updates will be quick because that is the only thing I am nervous about for getting the game for xbox. But if updates will take a while I will just get it on pc.

I'm used to delayed updates, you PC people are just spoiled:)

PC, for obviou... Oh wait.

PC gaming master race!

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PC, for obviou... Oh wait.

PC gaming master race!

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I got my eye on you.....

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Originally Posted by Dead_Phoenix

I know exactly what you mean. If history shows us anything its that pc games still get patched/updates before consoles on other games. As this wont be crossplatform I don't see why this wouldn't still be the case.

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yeah and battlefield 3 isnt cross platform as well , but still Ea as wait the patch for consoles to be aproove by microsoft and sony before releasing the patch on PC to have whats they call a simultaneous patch launch and finally it end up the pc ad the patch after the consoles lol

So i hope trion dont eat that bread ;)

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Hopefully console updates will be quick because that is the only thing I am nervous about for getting the game for xbox. But if updates will take a while I will just get it on pc.

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You should be much more nervous about View distance frame rates and overall performance while playing on consoles than , about the updates etc..

Iam worry to be limited by consoles driven stuff while this game as amasing potential , iam all ok to get a bigger audiance but microsoft and Sony as ruins the possibility to have a true cross platform tittles and just for that ... its really lame

maybe the competitive multiplayer could have been split to ensure competivity and fairness but the coop game could have been cross platform ...

This game isn't a graphic intensive game. All though it is nice its not like Epic visuals or world in my opinion. The updates will take longer on console then it will on pc just because the download is bottle necked on consoles. If you want proof do a speed test on the xbox 360 IE. You will see what I'm saying. The funny aspect of it is this. Xbox keeps the download speed at around 3 to 4 mb no matter how good your connection and speed is. and if your wireless and love the no cord. That tends to cut your speed down in half of that.

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Originally Posted by Myll_Erik

First - unlike other games there are quite a few updates/patches we can apply that don't require Microsoft/Sony lead time as they are done on our servers/database.

Second - we've been working with these folks for a while and feel as though we have created a great working relationship that will hopefully aid everyone down the road.

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My question could be are we going to have a specifics pc support or do we have to be the (( hostage )) of microsoft and sony internal policy ?

I mean by thats if a update or a contents is ready for PC but not for consoles are we going to have to wait until microsoft and sony QA aproove it or are we going to have our Own pc suport ?

And ship our contents /patch and update as soon as those are ready to ship ? and not force us to wait a extra 2 weeks because microsoft and sony want to QA it before it goes live