i want a refund

it took them over 3 weeks to repair rift and most servers are dead because the way the game was developed. also you figured when they released RIFT they would of caught on and known how to stop server issues.

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Originally Posted by TovarishGaming

Just wanted to drop in here and say that I noticed someone in this thread called Defiance Free to Play. HA! 60 dollar box price is not free to play. Not to mention that Barring WoW, and RIFT, there isn't a single sub-based major MMO title out there. So no, I have no sympathy for Trion on that particular front. However, I'm also not super butthurt. As long as they keep up with the daily update blogs and patches, and can have me in the game within a week of launch, I won't start a riot.

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If you don't pay for a subscription, its free to play. You obviously haven't figured that out yet. Also, Xbox games are NEVER free to obtain. Final Fantasy wasn't free and neither was Phantasy Star Universe. Those required subscriptions, yes, but Defiance is only making pay for purchasing the game. Thus it's free to play.

If you want a refund, you probably shouldn't have agreed to something of which you did not read(cough_pops_up_after_the_patch_cough_the_bindi ng_"contract"_coughcough).

You know that End User License Agreement isn't just like a "youtube video that's too long"?
You probably shouldn't skip through it.

It's insane, who doesn't read Terms of Services, Terms of Use, Privacy Policies, End User License Agreements, and Disclaimers?!@

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Originally Posted by Gearhead

If you don't pay for a subscription, its free to play. You obviously haven't figured that out yet. Also, Xbox games are NEVER free to obtain. Final Fantasy wasn't free and neither was Phantasy Star Universe. Those required subscriptions, yes, but Defiance is only making pay for purchasing the game. Thus it's free to play.

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360 players pay-to-play ALL their games, we pay to have secure servers to use, unlike Sony.

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Originally Posted by cassell

Well because spell check was only checking the spelling. You used real words just not the right words, grammar check would have helped. Or any schooling past say....kindergarten.

Translation for OP:

Will because spill Chick was only chicken the spoiling. You use reel worms just nit the rime worms, gamer chick wooded heave helper. Or any scoliosis past Sam......kindergarten.

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LOL!! That made my day-

sorry you feel that way, but I've been playing this game with minor issues, and WHEN I do have a problem it is after playing for hours without interruption

Meh. I've seen similar or worse issues with games in the first few days. If I were grading on a curve this would just be mediocre. But the real issue is why don't these developers start with way more capacity than they need rather than ramp it up and make the experience miserable for the first few days or weeks. I would think someone somewhere would realize that the expense of doing that would be worth the retention of potential revenue.

In light of these issues, the XP boost for pre-orders should be measured in actual in-game time (3 days equals 72 hours of gameplay) rather than real time. (I am assuming that it is real-time from when you first start playing, I could be wrong, I haven't found a place where it says.)

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Originally Posted by ellis_d

sorry you feel that way, but I've been playing this game with minor issues, and WHEN I do have a problem it is after playing for hours without interruption

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um and how have you been doing this with the servers going down ever so often, your talking **** explain yourself!

I should have gone with Bioshock Infinite...

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Originally Posted by Boogey Man

The difference being ... Call of Duty was a "playable" game from launch. This product isn't even half-a**ed. I do not even understand how they can beta test with a few thousand and think that'll give them an accurate reflection of what to expect on a full launch. Piss poor planning.

Right now I'm stuck with a "Defiance" screensaver I spent $100 on. A lot of customers can't play the game they paid for and they can't get a refund. Absolutely justifies being pissed off.

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Give Trion TIME to iron things out! My god! I spent over $155 for the Ultimate Collector's Edition! If I can be patient with Trion to get their act together, so can you! Sit down and quit *****ing. You folks who are whining are more irritating than the problems with game itself. You wanna give up on a game that's going to be a hit? Fine, get off the forums, give away or return your game and speak not another word about Defiance. For us who actually want to give a damn about Defiance and enjoy it, we'll going to entrench ourselves and wait it out!