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  • 04-04-2013, 09:07 AM
    Pissed off
    Is it me or do some of the games supporters seem scripted?
    Some of the positive comments are actually bad for the game. Whom are you trying to sell it to?

    Us letting the company know the game is horrible will hopefully prompt them to fix it before the whole thing falls apart. Little annoyed at "its a great game" no the game sucks fix it. It plays worse then old gta games. Did your team do coke before they approved this garbage?

    Mass Effect 2/3 combine with call of duty, gears of war and skyrim. A little less halo plz.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:10 AM
    Kommissar Kaede
    Is it just me or are the detractors scripted as well.

    By no means will I say the game is great, but on the spectrum of game quality, this game is doing remarkably well by MMO standards. I would argue the complaints we're seeing are from the vocal few who are indeed having problems, and must come here to voice them. Plenty of people are just in game.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:12 AM
    thedoorsdk
    So anyone who likes the game must be on the take?
    Seems like a rational hypothesis.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:14 AM
    PixieStix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Some of the positive comments are actually bad for the game. Whom are you trying to sell it to?

    Us letting the company know the game is horrible will hopefully prompt them to fix it before the whole thing falls apart. Little annoyed at "its a great game" no the game sucks fix it. It plays worse then old gta games. Did your team do coke before they approved this garbage?

    Mass Effect 2/3 combine with call of duty, gears of war and skyrim. A little less halo plz.

    What you meant to say was "My opinion is the only one that's valid".

    I've had no issues with the game and have quite a bit of fun while playing it. I don't share your view, and I am sure many others don't as well. If you don't want to hear positive comments, don't read the threads. Go wallow in the self pity threads talking about how terrible the game is and how your world is going to end because the game isn't fun for you.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:14 AM
    omega32x
    I could see this game being potentially worse than Old Republic and dying off way faster if they don't get there **** together fast.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:15 AM
    Azuresky
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Some of the positive comments are actually bad for the game. Whom are you trying to sell it to?

    Us letting the company know the game is horrible will hopefully prompt them to fix it before the whole thing falls apart. Little annoyed at "its a great game" no the game sucks fix it. It plays worse then old gta games. Did your team do coke before they approved this garbage?

    Mass Effect 2/3 combine with call of duty, gears of war and skyrim. A little less halo plz.

    THIS IS A "Troll" log in. hehe Who names there login Pissed off? It's an attention seeking "Guild" I guess. They take screen shots of the most "Pissed" off response they can find and share it with their other "Trolls". Just ignore him.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:15 AM
    Munx
    I like the game, sue me.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:21 AM
    Pissed off
    No just a few. But really you actually like shooting a wall when your cross hair is pointed at nothing? Or the bugs or not getting pre order content or lack of customization, no armor stats, horrible pov, bad voice acting, lack of cover on a third person shooter, horrible chat interface, constent game crashes, how about awful vehicles. I could sit here all day picking apart the game. Lack of ammo options, uninspired character creations every one looks the same, lack of classes. Ect...
  • 04-04-2013, 09:24 AM
    JagerMyk
    stop feeding the trolls, look at the name. if you ignore them maybe they all will go away
  • 04-04-2013, 09:26 AM
    Pissed off
    Not trolling at all, getting feedback out. If the game sucks the game sucks. Fix the game.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:31 AM
    Azuresky
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Not trolling at all, getting feedback out. If the game sucks the game sucks. Fix the game.

    Read the "Trion Worls, Inc" Terms of Use policy silly! http://trionworlds.com/en/legal/terms-of-use/

    20. Warranty Disclaimer

    THE SITE, EACH GAME (INCLUDING GAME-RELATED VIRTUAL ITEMS, IF ANY) AND THE SERVICE ARE PROVIDED ON AN “AS IS” “AS AVAILABLE” BASIS FOR YOUR USE, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR USE, TITLE, NON-INFRINGEMENT AND THOSE ARISING FROM COURSE OF DEALING OR USAGE OF TRADE. TRION DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE SITE, YOUR ACCOUNT, A GAME (INCLUDING GAME-RELATED VIRTUAL ITEMS, IF ANY) OR THE SERVICE WILL BE AVAILABLE, UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, THAT DEFECTS WILL BE CORRECTED, OR THAT THE SITE, A GAME (INCLUDING GAME-RELATED VIRTUAL ITEMS, IF ANY), A GAME CLIENT OR THE SERVICE ARE FREE OF VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL COMPONENTS.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:31 AM
    Pissed off
    @pixie stix your view is valid, as is everyone who feels the game needs work. Alot of work.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:35 AM
    Gargimale
    Doesn't sound like a troll
    I agree with Mr. Pissed off because I am pissed off too. To buy a game and spend your money on a product you expected to be playable is frustrating. A lot of people who are saying calm down are the ones having minimal issues. The others who are down right pissed off are the ones, ( who are probably on Xbox ) who have a valid right to complain. If you become a paying consumer then you have a right to an opinionated voice. If the company doesn't want to hear it then by all means fix it, if other people do not want to hear it then stop looking. This guy and other like us have a problem with trying to play and encountering a multitude of problems that do not seem to get any better. You can call me am ******* or that I am new to mmo's; however I am a mmo vetern and still expected better than this.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:36 AM
    Kommissar Kaede
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    No just a few. But really you actually like shooting a wall when your cross hair is pointed at nothing?

    Is that a joke? Obviously you will hit a wall if you're aiming at nothing. Assuming you made some mental slip though, I still haven't experienced that. If I intentionally aim and let the cone set correctly, and assuming their is no obstruction in front of the barrel, I hit my target.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Or the bugs or not getting pre order content

    I got all the content I pre-ordered. Some may not know how, may have failed to submit the right codes. I doubt the bulk of users have encountered actual bugs, and thats just a small percentage of the user base.

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    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    or lack of customization,

    Maybe? Nothing to compare it to.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    no armor stats,

    The clothing doesn't have stats. Its cosmetic. By many standards this is actually excellent. Players shouldn't be punished for style.

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    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    horrible pov,

    Debatable, I don't mind it too often.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    bad voice acting,

    Sure, but I blame the show for that.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    lack of cover on a third person shooter,

    Its a pacing issue. The game appears to want to be a fast paced shooter. You can crouch anyway.


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    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    horrible chat interface,

    Yes, it is

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    constent game crashes,

    I have not expereinced that.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    how about awful vehicles.

    Maybe?

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    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Lack of ammo options,

    How so? In the weapon types that ammo is used with? I'm quite fine that ammo is just ammo. Its simplified like that to make the combat resupply more fast paced.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    uninspired character creations every one looks the same,

    You already used that


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    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    lack of classes. Ect...

    Plenty of people dislike class structure, or don't know that classless can be fun as well. Classes serve to restrict play.

    So at the end of the day, you have like... 3-4 points that might hold water, but are purely cosmetic/social bugs. Hardly enough to class the game as "sucky."
  • 04-04-2013, 09:41 AM
    Pissed off
    @azura. Because my comments are negative and counter to yours, you insult people. That really benifits no one. some of the concerns us nay sayers have are valid. Clearly a large group of people are pissed at waisting our hard earned money on a very unready game, with many flaws.

    Feedback is important negative feedback even more so to let the devs know wtf they should do to keep the game going. I feel the game will fail if nothing is done. Right now it feels like a bad version of gta. MHO. Thanks.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:42 AM
    thedoorsdk
    Honestly, you don't seem to have as many specific complaints about the game that are valid expectations of a working product (servers being down, chat not working, etc.) as you just don't like what the game is trying to do. Which is cool, and I can totally respect that, but it's not really a valid complaint. The game doesn't have a cover system - it's not supposed to, it was never an intended feature, it's a purposeful design choice. Ditto "special" ammo and clothing stats. It's like complaining that your apple isn't an orange - if you prefer oranges, why did you buy an apple?
  • 04-04-2013, 09:45 AM
    gryphonv
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    @azura. Because my comments are negative and counter to yours, you insult people. That really benifits no one. some of the concerns us nay sayers have are valid. Clearly a large group of people are pissed at waisting our hard earned money on a very unready game, with many flaws.

    Feedback is important negative feedback even more so to let the devs know wtf they should do to keep the game going. I feel the game will fail if nothing is done. Right now it feels like a bad version of gta. MHO. Thanks.

    Nobody is going to take you serious with the forum name pissed off.

    But with that said, As long as people like the game (im one), it'll survive. I don't think its the best game out there, but I've spent money on worst games, and the fact I bought the game, I do intend on playing it.

    COuld the game be better, hell yeah. Is the game broken, not by any means.
  • 04-04-2013, 09:50 AM
    Azuresky
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    @azura. Because my comments are negative and counter to yours, you insult people. That really benifits no one. some of the concerns us nay sayers have are valid. Clearly a large group of people are pissed at waisting our hard earned money on a very unready game, with many flaws.

    Feedback is important negative feedback even more so to let the devs know wtf they should do to keep the game going. I feel the game will fail if nothing is done. Right now it feels like a bad version of gta. MHO. Thanks.

    Just go get your money back... :D Time is running out, I think you only have 72hrs from launch... Tick tock... Tick tock...
    Again I quote...
    http://trionworlds.com/en/legal/terms-of-use/
  • 04-04-2013, 09:59 AM
    IIFatalshockII
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Some of the positive comments are actually bad for the game. Whom are you trying to sell it to?

    Us letting the company know the game is horrible will hopefully prompt them to fix it before the whole thing falls apart. Little annoyed at "its a great game" no the game sucks fix it. It plays worse then old gta games. Did your team do coke before they approved this garbage?

    Mass Effect 2/3 combine with call of duty, gears of war and skyrim. A little less halo plz.

    Or... I like the game. I want to play the game because I bought it, and I like it.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:00 AM
    DarealNDQ
    To the OP it seems like you just took pieces out of games that you like and want the developers to implement them into this game. I believe that's why the developers had trailers describing what the game would be like maybe you could have watched them and made a decision based off that. Because a lot of your complaints were in those trailers, where they said there would be no cover system, and that clothes wouldn't affect your player in a positive or negative way. Trion was pretty clear with what they wanted defiance to be so those people asking for all these other features just because COD, Gears,Mass Effect, and ect., has them should probably go play those games and just let the people who are content with Defiance as it is (not meaning the messed up servers) play defiance. There's no reason to complain about defiance not having certain features, when it was never meant to have those features in the first place.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:03 AM
    Jammie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Not trolling at all, getting feedback out. If the game sucks the game sucks. Fix the game.

    If the game doesn't suck... It doesn't suck. :)
  • 04-04-2013, 10:04 AM
    Doublespeak
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    @azura. Because my comments are negative and counter to yours, you insult people. That really benifits no one. some of the concerns us nay sayers have are valid. Clearly a large group of people are pissed at waisting our hard earned money on a very unready game, with many flaws.

    Feedback is important negative feedback even more so to let the devs know wtf they should do to keep the game going. I feel the game will fail if nothing is done. Right now it feels like a bad version of gta. MHO. Thanks.

    Your entire first post reaks of someone who thinks their opinion is fact. Try write something in a more mature fashion if you want mature responses.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:04 AM
    Pissed off
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Azuresky View Post
    Just go get your money back... :D Time is running out, I think you only have 72hrs from launch... Tick tock... Tick tock...
    Again I quote...
    http://trionworlds.com/en/legal/terms-of-use/

    No the game needs some major tweeks, and I support scyfy and the show. As it stands the game needs to be fixed. You like it others feel it needs a better layout. Hopefully they address player concerns before it bombs.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:07 AM
    Snaloe
    Either you're enjoying the game or not, make up you're own mind, and the scripted thing is utter crap !
  • 04-04-2013, 10:08 AM
    cassell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kommissar Kaede View Post
    Is it just me or are the detractors scripted as well.

    Very scripted and I would almost guarantee that 90% of them don't even own the game. The OP says the game is "horrible" and provides absolutely no basis for his statement. I really don't care what they detractors have to say I am having one hell of a time. In beta I actually thought that Hotshots, Time Trials and Rampages where silly and I didn't do any of them. Now that I have tried them I find they are so damn much fun. I am having a great time, I have enjoyed all of the content so far and I am excited to see what the future holds. Trion has always been a leader in providing a consistent flow of content and I applaud them for their work.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:10 AM
    Irres169
    People who have the game working should back off and go play it.
    People who don't should formulate their posts better to get real results, not threaten stuff that is irrelevant and makes you sound 12.

    It can be frustrating when you pay for a game and it doesn't work. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone else.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:21 AM
    NarcoticDragoon
    I like the game a lot, sure it's got it's problems, but I'm happy with the game.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:23 AM
    Rek Vio
    I know the game has some issues but I still find it enjoyable but that is mostly because I really like the change of pacing compared with other mmos, Guild Wars 2 was fun but this does it better.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:37 AM
    Pissed off
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cassell View Post
    Very scripted and I would almost guarantee that 90% of them don't even own the game. The OP says the game is "horrible" and provides absolutely no basis for his statement. I really don't care what they detractors have to say I am having one hell of a time. In beta I actually thought that Hotshots, Time Trials and Rampages where silly and I didn't do any of them. Now that I have tried them I find they are so damn much fun. I am having a great time, I have enjoyed all of the content so far and I am excited to see what the future holds. Trion has always been a leader in providing a consistent flow of content and I applaud them for their work.

    Day 4 and less then an hour of gameplay. Yet they wonder why im pissed off?

    Gee..
  • 04-04-2013, 10:38 AM
    Pissed off
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NarcoticDragoon View Post
    I like the game a lot, sure it's got it's problems, but I'm happy with the game.

    You actually get to play a working game I assume.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:40 AM
    Snaloe
    I assume you're not on PC ? Cos I have been on all day.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:46 AM
    Nubile
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Day 4 and less then an hour of gameplay. Yet they wonder why im pissed off?

    Gee..

    Your kidding right, you went through that whole rant about everything wrong with the game, but you only played for an hour?

    You do realize the list you put together is a list that almost every game has when it starts, the items on the list aren't always the same, but the to do list is

    Bugs get fixed in the early few weeks, as well as lots of unexpected maintenance, if you didn't know this about mmo type games, and most fps games, then you are indeed a really bad Troll
  • 04-04-2013, 10:47 AM
    Pissed off
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cassell View Post
    Very scripted and I would almost guarantee that 90% of them don't even own the game. The OP says the game is "horrible" and provides absolutely no basis for his statement. I really don't care what they detractors have to say I am having one hell of a time. In beta I actually thought that Hotshots, Time Trials and Rampages where silly and I didn't do any of them. Now that I have tried them I find they are so damn much fun. I am having a great time, I have enjoyed all of the content so far and I am excited to see what the future holds. Trion has always been a leader in providing a consistent flow of content and I applaud them for their work.

    Basis for statement day 4 less then an hour of gameplay. Horrible targeting, bugs, lack of cover, halo like jumping, ( yet no power armor), lack of customizatiom, no ,over mechanic, no shoulder swapping, lack of imersive story tellong, the whole enviroment looks alike, uninspired chat system,lack of players working as a team, pre order content fail, DAY 4 GAME DOES NOT WORK. How is this not basis. Stop white knighting clearly something is horribly wrong with the game.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:51 AM
    Pissed off
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nubile View Post
    Your kidding right, you went through that whole rant about everything wrong with the game, but you only played for an hour?

    You do realize the list you put together is a list that almost every game has when it starts, the items on the list aren't always the same, but the to do list is

    Bugs get fixed in the early few weeks, as well as lots of unexpected maintenance, if you didn't know this about mmo type games, and most fps games, then you are indeed a really bad Troll

    I have only been able to play about an hour of gameplay, add I found it very bad, as reasons listed above. It just goes to show you how apparent the flaws are. So Im pissed off. I expect a game to work when you buy it. Not work for 5 min intervals then crash.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:52 AM
    Pissed off
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snaloe View Post
    I assume you're not on PC ? Cos I have been on all day.

    Yeah xbox.
  • 04-04-2013, 10:54 AM
    Doublespeak
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Stop white knighting clearly something is horribly wrong with the game.

    I have no issues with the PC version, oh does that make me a white knight now? Seriously what kind of mental midgets use that term when someone simply has a different experience than them.
  • 04-04-2013, 11:01 AM
    Pissed off
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Doublespeak View Post
    I have no issues with the PC version, oh does that make me a white knight now? Seriously what kind of mental midgets use that term when someone simply has a different experience than them.

    Goes both ways.
  • 04-04-2013, 11:05 AM
    DRAGGER88
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pissed off View Post
    Some of the positive comments are actually bad for the game. Whom are you trying to sell it to?

    Us letting the company know the game is horrible will hopefully prompt them to fix it before the whole thing falls apart. Little annoyed at "its a great game" no the game sucks fix it. It plays worse then old gta games. Did your team do coke before they approved this garbage?

    Mass Effect 2/3 combine with call of duty, gears of war and skyrim. A little less halo plz.

    I agree but StLouis never looked better!!!:cool::cool:
  • 04-04-2013, 11:17 AM
    sweedeezy
    this dude is either:
    a.) Trollin.
    b.) he mad.
    c.) butthurt.
    d.) all of the above cause bad troll is bad.
    +2 hours of server downtime to you sir.
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