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  • 04-04-2013, 03:52 PM
    Syxx
    Least Social MMO I've ever played.
    -Not 1 person has used chat yet.
    -No chat bubbles
    -No Zone Chat
    -People wont even revive you 90% of the time.
  • 04-04-2013, 04:20 PM
    Akahi
    Hate to say it, but you're absolutely right. As I was playing all day yesterday, it bothered me so much. It really leaves you with this feeling of loneliness. So that I wouldn't die from the overbearing loneliness I had to turn on pandora to liven up the mood. I'm not sure if it's just me, but it seems like someone on the team had no idea what makes a good mmo- the MASSIVE, MULTIPLAYER, ONLINE aspect of the game. Honestly, even in little towns crowded with people, I feel as though I'm alone. Riding around, going by players, they're no different than NPC's. The only sense of life I get is when I'm spending my time Ark-Hunting, at least then someone asks where is the nearest ammo crate.... with that I can ensure myself that I'm not the only living person surrounded by NPC's. It's quite sad. There's other problems I have with the game, but seeing as how it just released, I'll hold those to myself and patiently wait for some major Updates. Needed- I should add. Otherwise, this game is going to fall. Hard. ):
  • 04-04-2013, 04:26 PM
    Jestunhi
    Until the chat 1. stay longer and ideally 2. is better designed, this will not change.

    Unless you glance at the chat window within a few seconds of someone saying it it will have disappeared before you see it.
  • 04-04-2013, 04:27 PM
    cfStatic
    Chat is rather buggy on the whole. Sometimes when you try typing it wont even send/display what you wrote. I'm not sure if it only just doesn't display for the individual if you send something, or if it just doesn't send it at all. Either way, the chat needs to be fixed/greatly improved/expanded.
  • 04-04-2013, 04:37 PM
    Harnace
    Fixing the chat and making it more useful with a zone chat should be their top priority in my opinion.
  • 04-04-2013, 04:38 PM
    Darkeus
    Yeah, it is really one of my only major gripes with the game. The decision to do chat like it is on the PC was just not a great idea. However, I do see people chatting at Arkfalls... usually telling people to get the hell out of their stupid vehicles, stop killing the skitterlings or a combination of both. :p

    But chat needs to be redone. And it really needs to be a high priority. There is not enough socialization for a MMO game....
  • 04-04-2013, 04:42 PM
    driil
    Man oh man I agree the level of NOT MMORPG is epic. Not having a chat window to accomidate the console players is stupid seeing as how us PC players don't ever play with those type of people anyway... NO banks, Finding your group is impossible with instant weirdness or even driving down the road... I like following my group on the map because they disappear from view only to find out I have gone 10 miles down the road after they stopped... Maybe it should be called a MMO... Cause there are massive players running around not talking and disappearing constantly...
  • 04-04-2013, 04:50 PM
    QuantumBear
    Social is low because the chat system is abysmal. With half the players not seeing the chat at all because they've turned off voice which also turns off text chat...derp.

    Also why is the "chat bubbles" thing always thrown around, having derpy *** chat bubbles does not make a social community.
  • 04-04-2013, 04:51 PM
    Jestunhi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by QuantumBear View Post
    Also why is the "chat bubbles" thing always thrown around, having derpy *** chat bubbles does not make a social community.

    Because it doesn't require people to stare at the corner of the screen, and lets you easily identify the person in the crowd yelling for a heal, etc.

    It's not as if it needs to be compulsory, would you protest to it being added as an option?
  • 04-04-2013, 04:55 PM
    Danariel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Darkeus View Post
    Yeah, it is really one of my only major gripes with the game. The decision to do chat like it is on the PC was just not a great idea. However, I do see people chatting at Arkfalls... usually telling people to get the hell out of their stupid vehicles, stop killing the skitterlings or a combination of both. :p

    But chat needs to be redone. And it really needs to be a high priority. There is not enough socialization for a MMO game....

    Ok, this is the second time I've seen someone say NOT to kill the skitterlings. Might I ask why? I had no idea you weren't supposed to.
  • 04-04-2013, 04:57 PM
    Griffon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -Not 1 person has used chat yet.
    -No chat bubbles
    -No Zone Chat
    -People wont even revive you 90% of the time.

    This is so true it's painful!
  • 04-04-2013, 04:58 PM
    QuantumBear
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jestunhi View Post
    Because it doesn't require people to stare at the corner of the screen, and lets you easily identify the person in the crowd yelling for a heal, etc.

    It's not as if it needs to be compulsory, would you protest to it being added as an option?

    I wouldn't protest it no, if players want it and its easy to implement sure why not, I'd prefer it to be off by default, cba screen spammed with 100s of chat bubbles staying stupid crap. However there are more pressing problems with the chat system than a chat bubble there are also other ways to encourage social aspects of the game other than chat bubbles i.e reasons to be in a guild and reasons for players to play together.

    But again all of this is something the developers can focus on after the abomination of the current voice/text chat has been fixed.
  • 04-04-2013, 04:59 PM
    Maize Rager
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danariel View Post
    Ok, this is the second time I've seen someone say NOT to kill the skitterlings. Might I ask why? I had no idea you weren't supposed to.

    The small skitterlings make weak points in the Arkfall Rock. Leave them alone. Kill the major ones and flying ones though.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:02 PM
    HardCoded
    yeah, making the chat window a little bigger and more persistent would go a long way to alleviating the quietness.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:02 PM
    Jestunhi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by QuantumBear View Post
    I wouldn't protest it no, if players want it and its easy to implement sure why not, I'd prefer it to be off by default, cba screen spammed with 100s of chat bubbles staying stupid crap. However there are more pressing problems with the chat system than a chat bubble there are also other ways to encourage social aspects of the game other than chat bubbles i.e reasons to be in a guild and reasons for players to play together.

    But again all of this is something the developers can focus on after the abomination of the current voice/text chat has been fixed.

    I tend to think that the kind of people who need a "reason" to play a multiplayer game with other people are generally lost anyway. ;)

    I suspect they also have enough developers to look at the existing chat window, the issue with saving some settings (including voice chat) *and* the possibility of chat bubbles (making chat more obvious for the people who want chat bubbles can only be a good thing for the games social aspects).

    It's not like we are talking a 1 man dev team where working on chat bubbles means all work on the existing systems is abandoned.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:03 PM
    Danariel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maize Rager View Post
    The small skitterlings make weak points in the Arkfall Rock. Leave them alone. Kill the major ones and flying ones though.

    THAT must be why I had 101 kills in the first (and last) Major Arkfall I was in last night, and was ahead of everyone else by like 40. D'oh!
  • 04-04-2013, 05:03 PM
    Natjur
    Wait, who said this game was an real MMO?
    I thought it was a first person shooter in a persistent world. Except for the grievers, you would not know it was a multi player game.

    As for the small skitterlings make weak points in the Arkfall Rock, they need to give a in game warning, or make them unattackable, cause at the moment, you get rewarded for killing them (highest kill count) but it stuffs everyone else up. Its almost a form of grieving (like parking your large vehicle on a quest giver. Sure you can walk though a vehicle but does not mean you can CLICK on the quest giver.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:06 PM
    anastasia
    I've tried to chat but can't seem to find any combination that actually sends a message... anyone know what the list of chat commands are or where to find them?
  • 04-04-2013, 05:07 PM
    driil
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danariel View Post
    Ok, this is the second time I've seen someone say NOT to kill the skitterlings. Might I ask why? I had no idea you weren't supposed to.

    That I would like to know as well... :/ SOMEONE ANSWER PLEASE?


    EDIT: That is dumb I think I will keep killing them if I feel like it :) After all Natjur who said it was a mmo?
  • 04-04-2013, 05:09 PM
    Taaltos
    Chat bubbles in this game would be...stupid.

    Try aiming for mobs with a hundred chat bubbles in your way.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:10 PM
    Jestunhi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by driil View Post
    That I would like to know as well... :/ SOMEONE ANSWER PLEASE?

    See this post:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maize Rager View Post
    The small skitterlings make weak points in the Arkfall Rock. Leave them alone. Kill the major ones and flying ones though.

  • 04-04-2013, 05:10 PM
    Taaltos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by driil View Post
    That I would like to know as well... :/ SOMEONE ANSWER PLEASE?

    It was answered.

    It the arkfalls, the skitterlings bite the Arkfall rock, causing a pustule to appear, you shoot the pustule for major damage.

    If you kill the skitterlings, no bite, no pustule, takes forever to defeat the 'rock'.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:10 PM
    Jestunhi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Taaltos View Post
    Chat bubbles in this game would be...stupid.

    Try aiming for mobs with a hundred chat bubbles in your way.

    Then don't enable them if they are added?

    Has anyone *ever* requested that you be forced to use them?
  • 04-04-2013, 05:15 PM
    QuantumBear
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jestunhi View Post
    I tend to think that the kind of people who need a "reason" to play a multiplayer game with other people are generally lost anyway. ;)

    I suspect they also have enough developers to look at the existing chat window, the issue with saving some settings (including voice chat) *and* the possibility of chat bubbles (making chat more obvious for the people who want chat bubbles can only be a good thing for the games social aspects).

    It's not like we are talking a 1 man dev team where working on chat bubbles means all work on the existing systems is abandoned.

    Well im not saying that a reason needs to be shoved down players throats, more of an incentive to be grouped/guilded socialize a bit and encourage social communities to grow, nothing more alienating than game systems that present nothing but downsides to being grouped.

    And they most likely do have more than one person working on chat, however I imagine that chat coding isn't very simple especially when taking into consideration ingame player distances for /y /s + bubbles (assuming /s /y are even in the chat system at this point in time?) not to mention weaving in a rubbish voice chat. In any case I'd hope the people on the chat development team are focusing on fixing the current mess and only that. Rather have one thing fixed and working properly than 2 half arsed jobs. (safe to say if chat bubbles are implemented soon they'll probably be as messed up as the rest of the system :p)
  • 04-04-2013, 05:15 PM
    Psyqhical
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -Not 1 person has used chat yet.

    Get with the times! Who uses chat these days, Teamspeak's where it's at!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -No chat bubbles

    See statement above.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -No Zone Chat

    See statement above.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -People wont even revive you 90% of the time.

    That's cause you don't have any friends. Friends will revive you 90% of the time, with a 10% margine of error. :D
  • 04-04-2013, 05:18 PM
    Tyrrin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -Not 1 person has used chat yet.
    -No chat bubbles
    -No Zone Chat
    -People wont even revive you 90% of the time.

    This is my BIGGEST complaint about the game, and the one thing that will probably make me leave if its not addressed quickly.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:19 PM
    cfStatic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Psyqhical View Post
    Get with the times! Who uses chat these days, Teamspeak's where it's at!

    TeamSpeak?! Surely you jest! Ventrilo or Mumble at least! *snobby voice* lol

    Also, voice disables text chat from people? What in the **** is that about. :/
  • 04-04-2013, 05:20 PM
    DataFerret
    The entire chat system needs to be scrapped and rewritten. Problems with it are:

    1. Too much "combat garbage" in chat that overruns the actual "players posting messages" chat, so you never see it.
    2. Lack of scope definition. How much "area" does Area Chat actually cover? I have no idea, but it's not much.
    3. Definitely need a "global chat" for all players on any server.
    4. A server-wide channel for "Looking for Group," or need to add more missions to the N-map, like WoW Dungeon Finder. I'd love to get some help on the San Quentin mission but can't get anyone to answer.
    5. "Looking for Clan" channel.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:22 PM
    Santana Ortega
    Ventrillo, Mumble, teamspeak are your friends. Use them or lose them.
    Anyone that knows mmo's knows that chat is useless. Full of rants and trolls.
    Guilds, clans, whatever never use chat anymore.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:23 PM
    cfStatic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DataFerret View Post
    The entire chat system needs to be scrapped and rewritten. Problems with it are:

    1. Too much "combat garbage" in chat that overruns the actual "players posting messages" chat, so you never see it.
    2. Lack of scope definition. How much "area" does Area Chat actually cover? I have no idea, but it's not much.
    3. Definitely need a "global chat" for all players on any server.
    4. A server-wide channel for "Looking for Group," or need to add more missions to the N-map, like WoW Dungeon Finder. I'd love to get some help on the San Quentin mission but can't get anyone to answer.
    5. "Looking for Clan" channel.

    The N-Menu is strictly for instanced grouping. It is dungeon finder, just not for overworld quests. More missions are added as you progress upwards in EGO levels. I have 7 at 631 EGO.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Santana Ortega View Post
    Ventrillo, Mumble, teamspeak are your friends. Use them or lose them.
    Anyone that knows mmo's knows that chat is useless. Full of rants and trolls.
    Guilds, clans, whatever never use chat anymore.

    That's half the fun IMHO. Either trolling the trolls or taking a playful shot at someone. It's good fun.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:28 PM
    Psyqhical
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cfStatic View Post
    TeamSpeak?! Surely you jest! Ventrilo or Mumble at least! *snobby voice* lol

    No, I wouldn't dare jest, good sir. What do I hear, you use Ventrilo? How pedestrian of you, good sir. *adjusts monicle*
  • 04-04-2013, 05:35 PM
    Jammie
    Have to agree, we really need some more social features.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:35 PM
    Strontium Dog
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -Not 1 person has used chat yet.
    -No chat bubbles
    -No Zone Chat
    -People wont even revive you 90% of the time.

    You must be on NA server cause I see chat and res. that said chat is crap. WoT is less sociable tho and claims to be an mmos .
  • 04-04-2013, 05:37 PM
    Frozenhole
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Syxx View Post
    -Not 1 person has used chat yet.
    -No chat bubbles
    -No Zone Chat
    -People wont even revive you 90% of the time.

    I dont want to talk to you i want to play the game for awhile if i wanted to join a chat room id go join a chat room grow up infant.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:44 PM
    Technodude
    I agree.... this is a very anti social MMO. Don't know if i should call it a MMO... feels like a single player game.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Frozenhole View Post
    I dont want to talk to you i want to play the game for awhile if i wanted to join a chat room id go join a chat room grow up infant.

    If you can't see the irony in that than i don't know what to say.:rolleyes:
  • 04-04-2013, 05:46 PM
    El Sandvich
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Frozenhole View Post
    I dont want to talk to you i want to play the game for awhile if i wanted to join a chat room id go join a chat room grow up infant.

    Because your own post is just so mature and eloquent, right? Oh, wait.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:49 PM
    Violante
    really annoying when you need some people to join you for a mission and theres nobody answering in area chat...

    broken chat is broken
  • 04-04-2013, 05:50 PM
    BeardedGent
    I always do my best to try and revive other players when I see them go down. Even if it may put me in danger. But, yes, the chat system needs to be the next thing they fix. Period.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:50 PM
    Technodude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Violante View Post
    really annoying when you need some people to join you for a mission and theres nobody answering in area chat...

    broken chat is broken

    Because it is area chat not global. So if no one around in area no one can hear you. The range of area chat is limited.
  • 04-04-2013, 05:51 PM
    djin
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