Nim is wayyyyyyyy to overpowered

I killed Nim on the first attempt, but expected to die horribly after reading the posts on these forums. He definitely requires extreme concentration, but I didnt find him that hard. I was actually glad to see a challenging fight that made me sit up in my chair and pay attention. Use perks that buff your shields, life, defensive stuff, and the perk that lets you run fast when your shield goes down and the fight becomes easier. I cant even tell you how badly the ability to run away from him fast was a huge win in that fight or I would have been dead.

Phase 1 feels hard because you guys probably arent patient enough to roll until he starts doing is crappy melees attacks .
You only have to dodge again and again until when he just comes forward to do is super slow melee attack :D

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Originally Posted by kokotane

Phase 1 feels hard because you guys probably arent patient enough to roll until he starts doing is crappy melees attacks .
You only have to dodge again and again until when he just comes forward to do is super slow melee attack :D

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I found Phase 1 doable after trying a few techniques presented here, primarily the use of the BMG. Phase 2 I'm on my third night of trying. Just got done watching Defiance pilot (Amazon) so I'm going to make a pot of coffee and see how far I get tonight. If any of you fellow gamers have tips for Phase 2 and 3, I'd definitely appreciate the help.

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Originally Posted by Areiela Hunter

I found Phase 1 doable after trying a few techniques presented here, primarily the use of the BMG. Phase 2 I'm on my third night of trying. Just got done watching Defiance pilot (Amazon) so I'm going to make a pot of coffee and see how far I get tonight. If any of you fellow gamers have tips for Phase 2 and 3, I'd definitely appreciate the help.

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Phase 2: when he does the "jump on 2nd level" trick, watch for the image with blue lightning forming around arms. That's the real target.
Phase 3: When hiding behind pillars, take a few steps back from it. When he does his "summon crystals and smash ground" move, you DON'T have to LoS him. Find somewhere a reasonable distance from him and the crystals (do plan to move behind a pillar right after he shatters the crystals, cause he usually does his homing fireball move soon after).

He wasn't that hard did make my hands sweat though. He got me on the first try I destroyed him the 2nd go around.

Nim is easy mode especially with a BMG.

I am older than most and blind in one eye and although I did find it difficult beating it was so worth it..

I've seen so many threads related to Nim. He's cake as hell in this game, i really don't understand why so many people are having trouble with him. I'm not saying you suck at the game or anything in that department. He's really easy, just master the dodging in the game and you will come out on top.

Its like this , Dodge, duck, roll, jump, and dodge!

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Originally Posted by Vhailas

He casts magic missile at the darkness.

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No he uses Lightning Bolt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw

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Originally Posted by jmddavis123

You need to tone it done with him because he over uses the blur, the dash, and fix the self-revive, I literally have 0.2 seconds to try revive myself. And why make me pay for a death that is inevitable?! Make it free for god sake! Please and thank you. Oh and make it have coop. Because it could probably only be done that way.

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yea i havnt tried fighting him again sing i lost against him a week ago...havnt played the game since lol been playin halo 4 again. F this game. it sucks

Hey OP.. this probably wouldn't be a problem for you if the Dev's didn't just nerf.. well.. just about EVERYTHING.. to appease the PvP crowd. You should thank those guys and gals instead of poking at the Dev's for doing what was basically demanded of them by the sheeple :)

A combo of an AR and a Shotgun (whole magazine reload) did the job for me today just fine.

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Originally Posted by CharmCitysKing

yea i havnt tried fighting him again sing i lost against him a week ago...havnt played the game since lol been playin halo 4 again. F this game. it sucks

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WOW and Halo 4 is so much better bad online, bad story.

Got it
Beat it
Maxed it
Sold it
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I used that combo to beat him in Alpha.. in Beta I used an LMG/Detonator.. both times with Decoy.. never gave me much hassle.

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Originally Posted by Fatalmephisto

I've seen so many threads related to Nim. He's cake as hell in this game, i really don't understand why so many people are having trouble with him. I'm not saying you suck at the game or anything in that department. He's really easy, just master the dodging in the game and you will come out on top.

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I don't understand either, some of these people claim to have beaten other games in maximum difficulty (Like Halo, Gears of War, CoD) and say that Nim is much harder than any of those 3 games. I just don't know what to say... :/

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Originally Posted by Rizaun

I don't understand either, some of these people claim to have beaten other games in maximum difficulty (Like Halo, Gears of War, CoD) and say that Nim is much harder than any of those 3 games. I just don't know what to say... :/

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those people never did something like that, Nim is no challenge at all killed him first try since his moves are scripted and repeat in the same circle all the time… please devs give us some hardcore mode for solo and coop instances! some of us want to be challenged…

cloak, boomer, roll, repeat. easy. sorry you had such a difficult time with the easiest boss in mmo history =/

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Originally Posted by jmddavis123

You need to tone it done with him because he over uses the blur, the dash, and fix the self-revive, I literally have 0.2 seconds to try revive myself. And why make me pay for a death that is inevitable?! Make it free for god sake! Please and thank you. Oh and make it have coop. Because it could probably only be done that way.

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Originally Posted by Obvious Lee

cloak, boomer, roll, repeat. easy. sorry you had such a difficult time with the easiest boss in mmo history =/

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Some of us only have overpower. :V

(also, cloak/decoy = easymode)
/silly

cloak/any explosive=easy mode, i agree. i use assault rifles and sniper rifles. you know, weapons that require some form of skill?

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Originally Posted by Lyokira

Some of us only have overpower. :V

(also, cloak/decoy = easymode)
/silly

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also, am i to understand that you are upset that when making your decision(that is, CHOOSING) on your power, you decided to go with enhanced damage output(understandable) instead of any actual form of tactical advantage, and instead of re-spec'ing, you decide to say that playing smart is cheating. now in certain instances i can completely agree. but pve? really dude? i mean....cmon. it's simple mechanics, like WoW or ninja gaiden. learn the pattern, and learn when to strike. simple combat tactics.

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Originally Posted by Lyokira

Some of us only have overpower. :V

(also, cloak/decoy = easymode)
/silly

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Press k, and at the bottom you have a button called respec (costs 1-1.5 k scrip to respec) and there you go

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Originally Posted by Obvious Lee

sorry you had such a difficult time with the easiest boss in mmo history =/

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I know quite a few examples which render your argument invalid.

Here is one boss, which surely is slightly less of a challenge than Nim.

Go easy with the superlative, bro.

http://i.imgur.com/MBGvDg8.jpg

i honestly would like to see more stages to the fight. doesnt really give off that "epic struggle for survival" vibe

I dont know what ur talking about he was unerpowered I died the first time i vs'd him but after that you just stand on one side and shoot all the guys running at you and then dodge some things he shoots at you. If you can roll then you should have no problem. More stages would be a good idiea.

yup. that'll do it

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Originally Posted by Mark8015

I dont know what ur talking about he was unerpowered I died the first time i vs'd him but after that you just stand on one side and shoot all the guys running at you and then dodge some things he shoots at you. If you can roll then you should have no problem. More stages would be good idiea.

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Ya did it with shot gun but he is way powerful

powerful, yes. and if you use jack**** tactics against him he's going to eat you for breakfast. if you use your head, he isnt TOO hard to manage.

Yea, Nim is insanely easy, I did it using overpower and not being a ****.

The second one is actually a DLC but you had to get yours back in the 90's, I don't think they make it anymore.


"They say he killed 11 armed men on his own... with a sword!"

Yea, but LadyCoord has killed horde's of Hellbugs using only her left elbow so... its all good.

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Originally Posted by Obvious Lee

also, am i to understand that you are upset that when making your decision(that is, CHOOSING) on your power, you decided to go with enhanced damage output(understandable) instead of any actual form of tactical advantage, and instead of re-spec'ing, you decide to say that playing smart is cheating. now in certain instances i can completely agree. but pve? really dude? i mean....cmon. it's simple mechanics, like WoW or ninja gaiden. learn the pattern, and learn when to strike. simple combat tactics.

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Am i to take it that youre saying overcharge has no tactical advantage what so ever? Im pretty sure that the ability to down 6 dark matter enforcers with one magazine plus the increased load times count as a tactical advantage, sounds alot better than cloak which has the chance to fail if youre shot while activating it or disengages if you accidently activate it twice in a row or the fact that it takes a couple seconds to go into affect, or that all blur does is makes you move a bit faster and hit a bit harder, the only ability i see no downfall with is decoy but i havent used that one much

90's? what in the holy hell are you going on about? O.o

in my personal opinion (which i admit, is quite possibly a WRONG opinion) is its better to not be seen, then be focused on. if cloak is used CORRECTLY, it's deadly. it's a shock troop tactic. my point is this dude was using overpowered and got tanked. hard. i simply see no rhyme or reason behind it. not calling the kid a baddie or anything, just saying wth ya know?

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Originally Posted by Mawl

Am i to take it that youre saying overcharge has no tactical advantage what so ever? Im pretty sure that the ability to down 6 dark matter enforcers with one magazine plus the increased load times count as a tactical advantage, sounds alot better than cloak which has the chance to fail if youre shot while activating it or disengages if you accidently activate it twice in a row or the fact that it takes a couple seconds to go into affect, or that all blur does is makes you move a bit faster and hit a bit harder, the only ability i see no downfall with is decoy but i havent used that one much

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Seriously? this guy was not overpowered at all. He has a lot of invuln frames, but you just need to bide the time and use a decent weapon. Frankly I went auto shottie and beat him like an abusive parent.

I could have done the same with a sawed off. Really it's just a timing fight. If you are butt at timing, you need to pack it in.

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Originally Posted by Obvious Lee

in my personal opinion (which i admit, is quite possibly a WRONG opinion) is its better to not be seen, then be focused on. if cloak is used CORRECTLY, it's deadly. it's a shock troop tactic. my point is this dude was using overpowered and got tanked. hard. i simply see no rhyme or reason behind it. not calling the kid a baddie or anything, just saying wth ya know?

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I understand, we all have our certain types of play style i myself have always enjoyed playing mmos and being the center of the baddies attention (i normally tank mmos) im fairly skilled at dodging so going overpowered gives me the ability to do that without sacrificing much. think about it if everyone in the coop maps ran cloaked snipers and explosive/shotguns the progress would be insanely slow so someones gotta be out there drawing attention shooting like crazy and allowing the snipers and such to make there shots, in this games case that falls on the people with overpower and decoys. On another note ive completed all the main and side missions and can confirm that there is no obstacle in the game that cant be overcome by an assault rifle to the face combined with overcharge

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Originally Posted by jmddavis123

You need to tone it done with him because he over uses the blur, the dash, and fix the self-revive, I literally have 0.2 seconds to try revive myself. And why make me pay for a death that is inevitable?! Make it free for god sake! Please and thank you. Oh and make it have coop. Because it could probably only be done that way.

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first of all DONT MAKE THE 4TH THREAD ABOUT IT ... dudes there are so many threads already
2nd i did it first try with unmodded weapon never used (so also not skilled) ....

he is WAY to EASY!!! i hope they buff him so every "not total noob" player have a challange there and not can do it while eating (like i did ...)

overall nim is to easy!!!

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Originally Posted by Complectus

Seriously? this guy was not overpowered at all. He has a lot of invuln frames, but you just need to bide the time and use a decent weapon. Frankly I went auto shottie and beat him like an abusive parent.

I could have done the same with a sawed off. Really it's just a timing fight. If you are butt at timing, you need to pack it in.

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yep a pumpgun i used
overall sure if you try your dont know machinegun or BMG no wonder you guys fail, i used a pumpgun i never used before and its easy, you just have to use no sniper rifle vs a guy with a SWORD !!!!

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-nim-(spoilers)

im just gonna leave this here if incase op or anyone else still cant pull it off

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Originally Posted by Obvious Lee

cloak, boomer, roll, repeat. easy. sorry you had such a difficult time with the easiest boss in mmo history =/

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you can beat him with cloak, overcharge, speed ,.. you decide its easy with everything.

if he makes a move, SHOOT if he come close, DODGE ... he cant hit you 1 time if a player is patient so your right, if you know how to use the dodge button he is the easiest enemy ever because his aoe attacks are SO SLOW that you can WALK behind a wall ...

Question: how do you dodge him when he goes into blur rush mode in phase 1?

like 3 seconds before he actually does the attack, when he's charging up, make sure you are nowhere in front of him. be on his sides.

see? when someone asks an actual question, they get a decent response. when they act like they just poured themselves a big *** bowl of rage flakes and some haterade, one is disinclined to assist.