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  • 04-17-2013, 01:50 AM
    Mawl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Obvious Lee View Post
    see? when someone asks an actual question, they get a decent response. when they act like they just poured themselves a big *** bowl of rage flakes and some haterade, one is disinclined to assist.

    you are quickly becoming my favorite person on this forum simply because of statements like that, no ****
  • 04-17-2013, 01:52 AM
    kyle939
    He is quiet tough.

    My game bugged so when I beat him I had to go back and redo it so.

    So I beat him twice, well 6 times if you count the cycles he goes through.

    So yeah. Very tough for me and was alright. Hard but that is the point in a boss
  • 04-17-2013, 01:54 AM
    Obvious Lee
    you'll notice that depending on the thread, and what's being said, that the target of my aggression(should there BE any) will most often be the biggest idiot, saying the most idiotic things. be they "fanboys" or not, it doesn't concern me. when someone is being a complete *** for no reason other than to tear down the poster, then as far as im concerned, it's open season.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mawl View Post
    you are quickly becoming my favorite person on this forum simply because of statements like that, no ****

  • 04-17-2013, 01:54 AM
    Technodude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Draemos View Post
    He's fine. Man up.

    Do you lift before you start your gaming session?
  • 04-17-2013, 01:56 AM
    Obvious Lee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kyle939 View Post
    He is quiet tough.

    My game bugged so when I beat him I had to go back and redo it so.

    So I beat him twice, well 6 times if you count the cycles he goes through.

    So yeah. Very tough for me and was alright. Hard but that is the point in a boss

    it's kind of like playing a game with all the cheat codes on. your average to lenient player might be elated for the entirety of play, whilst challenge seeking folks like myself (demon souls& dark souls) would grow tired of the concept rather quickly. thus bringing in the "what do i do now" issue.
  • 04-17-2013, 01:57 AM
    Obvious Lee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Technodude View Post
    Do you lift before you start your gaming session?

    that...........was beautiful.........lol
  • 04-17-2013, 01:58 AM
    Mawl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Obvious Lee View Post
    you'll notice that depending on the thread, and what's being said, that the target of my aggression(should there BE any) will most often be the biggest idiot, saying the most idiotic things. be they "fanboys" or not, it doesn't concern me. when someone is being a complete *** for no reason other than to tear down the poster, then as far as im concerned, it's open season.

    aww man we gonna argue so hard, but no seriously if you wanna laugh you should read about the people raging that hellbug emergencies dont give keys anymore and how "hard " it is to get keys and how you have to do coop in a mmo now to actually get them. http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...s-guns)/page14 ive been laughing hard about it for the last hour
  • 04-17-2013, 02:00 AM
    Mawl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Technodude View Post
    Do you lift before you start your gaming session?

    i lift, both my mt dew and my cigarettes, yeah i know what youre gonna say and yes i am hardcore
  • 04-17-2013, 02:00 AM
    Obvious Lee
    i saw. almost broke my pipe i was laughing so hard. people don't realize that with this many players it's literally impossible to be fair to everyone, in every single person's point of view. someone will ALWAYS feel wronged. comes with the business
  • 04-17-2013, 02:08 AM
    Mawl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Obvious Lee View Post
    i saw. almost broke my pipe i was laughing so hard. people don't realize that with this many players it's literally impossible to be fair to everyone, in every single person's point of view. someone will ALWAYS feel wronged. comes with the business

    i tried getting drunk to make the complaints make sense but it didnt work now im just playing a forums drinking game, take a 2 shots for every forum complaining about nim/keys take one shot for every ****ing censor you see in those forums
  • 04-17-2013, 02:11 AM
    Obvious Lee
    you must be quite **** *** ****ed up then, arent'cha? ;). well im off to bed. ya see this stunning avatar picture is of the woman wo for some warped reason wants to be my wife. and she's asleep, in bed, naked. think im gonna go get me some sleep next to that. toodle noodles.
  • 04-17-2013, 02:12 AM
    Mawl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Obvious Lee View Post
    you must be quite **** *** ****ed up then, arent'cha? ;). well im off to bed. ya see this stunning avatar picture is of the woman wo for some warped reason wants to be my wife. and she's asleep, in bed, naked. think im gonna go get me some sleep next to that. toodle noodles.

    get on it then man, also thanks for the drink
  • 04-17-2013, 02:13 AM
    Obvious Lee
    lol will do, and anytime. have a good one, and happy drinking.
  • 04-17-2013, 06:26 AM
    RoG Goat
    I put this in another thread as well, thought it would fit nicely here too ;D

    Yea, um... I finally got to Nim last night...
    And I beat him first try with an LMG + Overcharge -__-


    All these people are talking about needing a strategy, precise weapons, perfect shield... are you kidding me?
    The only strategy you need is to spam the evade button. Hell, you don't even need to evade! You can dodge ALL of his attacks by simply running in the opposite direction.


    I packed an infector 'just in case' and I didn't even use it. After his attacks he stands still for like 3 seconds before attacking again... when he's standing still.... DOING NOTHING.... Shoot him!

    1st phase
    I came in expecting the worst, after reading this thread of course, so I was running circles around him at the start... getting his attacks down. After that, I just lit him up. You can kill him with 2 clips of the LMG.

    2nd phase
    Took me 5 seconds to realize what he was doing... I had recently been watching Naruto, and the first thing I thought of was 'shadow clones' L0L! I just tossed out a grenade to thin them out, watching Nims health bar the whole time. When I would find the real one, I would light him up and when he ran, repeat.

    3rd phase
    Same as first.
  • 04-17-2013, 06:45 AM
    zapfrog
    So far the bosses have reminded me of the old school game bosses from PS2, SNES, etc. There were some hard ones back in the day but you just had to figure them out. So far I have figured them out with only a few deaths here and there.

    I'm sure that once I get to Nim I will get frustrated and die a number of times but then figure it out. So far it's all about patterns, line of sight and load outs. I would rather have the challenge for 60 bucks than breeze through it.
  • 04-17-2013, 06:48 AM
    Shadow assasin
    Na he aint. I did it fine. I used a combat shotgun on him an it worked fine (easier so you don't need to actually aim) seriously once you have done it then you'll wonder why you even found it hard
  • 04-17-2013, 06:52 AM
    Technodude
    Every topic about NIM where OP feels it is too difficult becomes e-peen stoking contest of internet tough guys.
  • 04-17-2013, 10:21 AM
    Rhorge
    Judging from the spelling of the OP, this is a troll thread. A person with enough patience to spell, use grammar and punctuate correctly surely has the patience to figure out Nim.
  • 04-17-2013, 10:24 AM
    Badblade
    The fact that so many claim it is a good challenge... suggests that it isn't too hard. It does suggest that some players need to try varying their strategy. Put away the sniper rifle that you love. Switch up your perks. Do something different rather than repetitively beating your head against a wall with a build that doesnt work.

    I'm not a wiz at shooters, and I beat him in 10 or 11 tries.
  • 04-17-2013, 10:28 AM
    Garu
    I did this first time and didn't think anything of it tbh, used an assault rifle with overcharge, but there's a lot of people struggling on it so perhaps add a easy mode for this fight that rewards like a quarter of the exp and no gun reward etc so that the people struggling can finish it.
  • 04-17-2013, 10:46 AM
    Yenkin
    I think an easy mode with less rewards could work, keeping his attacks the same but slowing down the cycles of his special attacks and more time during his do nothing. Not everyone is twitch focused in games, but this game is more about figuring out how mobs do what they do, using dodge and LOS has been my friend most of the time. But I have just to NIM and won't be trying him until the weekend when I have the time to spend figuring it out. Will have to let you know how a 60 year old does, the biggest challenge I get is not from single powerful mobs, it is when I am being surrounded by multiple mobs all shooting me at once, luanching gernades and rocket launchers.

    I remember in one mission kiting mobs through a narrow space turning around and tossing a gernade into the space. Now that was fun.
  • 04-17-2013, 10:49 AM
    jnt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yenkin View Post
    I think an easy mode with less rewards could work, keeping his attacks the same but slowing down the cycles of his special attacks and more time during his do nothing. Not everyone is twitch focused in games, but this game is more about figuring out how mobs do what they do, using dodge and LOS has been my friend most of the time. But I have just to NIM and won't be trying him until the weekend when I have the time to spend figuring it out. Will have to let you know how a 60 year old does, the biggest challenge I get is not from single powerful mobs, it is when I am being surrounded by multiple mobs all shooting me at once, luanching gernades and rocket launchers.

    I remember in one mission kiting mobs through a narrow space turning around and tossing a gernade into the space. Now that was fun.

    Rather then an easy mode with less rewards (what would that even be? no pistol? blue pistol?) Trion could create a slow increase in challenge during the course of the story. Make the curve ending at Nim a hill instead of the equivalent of running across a beach and into a cliff.
  • 04-17-2013, 10:57 AM
    Garu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jnt View Post
    Rather then an easy mode with less rewards (what would that even be? no pistol? blue pistol?) Trion could create a slow increase in challenge during the course of the story. Make the curve ending at Nim a hill instead of the equivalent of running across a beach and into a cliff.

    I didn't notice any huge jump in difficulty with nim the only thing i remember thinking in regards to the fight was that that type of fight proves that raids could work in this game, multi phasing fight with actual mechanics in an enclosed environment.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:01 AM
    jnt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Garu View Post
    I didn't notice any huge jump in difficulty with nim the only thing i remember thinking in regards to the fight was that that type of fight proves that raids could work in this game, multi phasing fight with actual mechanics in an enclosed environment.

    It has not been an uncommon attitude that Nim is oddly challenging. Take into account how shockingly easy the rest of the game is at the moment.

    If you can place a cross hairs on the weak spot and keep moving at the same time Defiance isn't particularly demanding.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:05 AM
    Santana Ortega
    Beat him again last night.

    Easiest way is Beam weapon so you can recharge your shields.
    Simple as that.

    Now if you want the challenge you go with whatever you want and keep moving , rolling and shooting.

    I used a basic white BMG that did 46 per tick on Nim and a Assault rilfe for the 2nd part to shoot him on the balcony, that ran out quick then swapped to a Wolfhound.

    The fight is not as hard with the BMG
  • 04-17-2013, 11:06 AM
    JohnnyInk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmddavis123 View Post
    You need to tone it done with him because he over uses the blur, the dash, and fix the self-revive, I literally have 0.2 seconds to try revive myself. And why make me pay for a death that is inevitable?! Make it free for god sake! Please and thank you. Oh and make it have coop. Because it could probably only be done that way.

    I beat him in 3 tries.. :)
  • 04-17-2013, 11:06 AM
    Mavor
    As a modern gamer - Nim should not present any specially difficult challenge for anyone. Hes tough but by no means as strong as folks keep making him out to be. He just isnt.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:06 AM
    JohnnyInk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jnt View Post
    It has not been an uncommon attitude that Nim is oddly challenging. Take into account how shockingly easy the rest of the game is at the moment.

    If you can place a cross hairs on the weak spot and keep moving at the same time Defiance isn't particularly demanding.

    +1....

    /10char
  • 04-17-2013, 11:08 AM
    Jestunhi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnnyInk View Post
    I beat him in 3 tries.. :)

    Same. Took me 1 self revive and 1 respawn to learn his moves, beat him on the third try.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:08 AM
    Rizaun
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Technodude View Post
    Every topic about NIM where OP feels it is too difficult becomes e-peen stoking contest of internet tough guys.

    Which proves that Nim is easy.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:15 AM
    PureLegends
    beat him on the first try, not really all that difficult imo
  • 04-17-2013, 11:15 AM
    Dreadzor
    Nim is very easy.
    I killed him on the first attempt using nothing but a cluster shot shotgun. Sidestrafing and occationally sprinting round pillars, rather than dodge rolling. Doing a 2nd playthrough at the moment and really looking forward to trying something else on him this time.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:16 AM
    NarcoticDragoon
    Everyone's complaining about him, yet he's then easiest boss I've ever fought. EVER.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:21 AM
    Spectre2015
    Nim is perfectly fine as is. Beat him just this morning for the first time using Decoy and a fully-auto assault rifle. I did die twice on the third stage of the fight as I messed up a few timings but was a very satisfying fight. Did not once feel as though he was using some cheap move or some cheap mechanic that puts me at a disadvantage. Wish the game had more unique and engaging fights like that that test an individuals playing skill.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:27 AM
    Viibl
    Nim's fine. OP needs to turn off aim-assist and practice more.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:27 AM
    MrE78
    Hrm I died only once I used Sporeshot through the whole fight. Once I figured out his charge he was super easy.

    To say that Nim is overpowered is a joke. I am sorry that the newer generation did not have challenging games of yesteryear.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:28 AM
    howitzer44
    A BMG and a respark shield is about all you need. The speed boosts perks will help as well. 1st phase is just dodging his fireballs and burst run shield thing...don't get hit by that. 2nd phase is long and boring. Stay in the middle on the opposite side of where he and the clones spawn. I found lobbing a grenade at the group when they spawn helps. He is the only one who will shoot fireballs. dodge those and focus your fire on the guy shooting the fireballs, continue to lob grenades. When the clones spawn on the upper level, kill the two in the middle on both sides and one of the guys in the corner and then dodge/jump/run away from their little axes or swords or whatever it is they throw. This phase takes the longest out of the three by far. 3rd phase. stand in the middle and always keep the middle chamber between you and him, but pop out to hit him. Dont get hit by fireballs, make sure the chamber is between both of you when he jumps to do his earthquake thing. Eventually he TPs into the vault and shards come out of the ground. Move away from the orange/yellow tiles. When he comes out, put a pillar between you and him bc he does an immediate earthquake. Rinse and repeat. Also takes a long time. NEVER STOP MOVING. I did this and beat him first try. Good Luck.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:29 AM
    chrismeyer34
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Herbfiend View Post
    Am I really the only one that thought he was to easy considering he was the last boss?

    Shotty, Assualt Rifle and Overcharge. As for my shield it was a crappy low str one medium recharge rate and fast recharge timer.

    Like people are saying dodge him when he charges you and line of sight him when he is casting a spell.

    Hell I didn't even avoid all his crap I messed up some but still never actually died to him or went down. I'm sure if u miss dodging everything yes you will die but I mean it's a boss stuff boss's do is bad for your health. Why would you stay near him if you know he wants to do bad things to you up close?

    this kid sounds more like he's still trying that CoD crap on this boss ( oh let me get in this bosses face and shoot and maybe he wont kill me, tee hee )...silly kids, this isnt that type of game and if you do that you WILL lose lol...dodging and running will be your best friends...ive solo'ed many a things in this game ( im just use to doing things solo, ie hellbug monarchs, arkfall minors, etc etc ) and even i learned that dodging and running are paramount...havent got to him yet but he sounds like fun, and im sure im gonna have a blast kickin his ***, cant wait to meet him lmao
  • 04-17-2013, 11:30 AM
    IGN
    He is not hard at all.

    Trion please don't tone down any bosses because people that can't dodge are asking you too.
  • 04-17-2013, 11:31 AM
    Anim
    Well, to shut people up I just recorded a video of killing Nim at 185>215 EGO (it went up in his dungeon) without using ANY perks and random green items. Shall be uploading soon.
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