Nim is wayyyyyyyy to overpowered

This fight is not hard. You just can't faceroll the keyboard and expect to down him in 10 mins. You need patience, a good ego build, and the right gear. I chose to use a respark shield with 25% life regen and a detonator. I chose to use cloak but half the time he seems to know where you are so I would suggest decoy.

Comparing this to another MMO with a very difficult solo quest: The warlock green fire quest in wow. seriously just google this and it will probably bring up endless pages of QQ and the occasional OMFG I finally beat him. It took me around 10 hours to finally down that boss and about 30-45 mins for this one. It really is a joke.

yeah is op he use shotgun and camo haha crying again !to hard to long overpowered please nerf this nerf that try dark soul you loser

I handed my girlfriend the controller and she even beat him bro...its not impossible

if i can kill nim any one can i used BMG mainly with some LMG usage in last stage all you need to do is dodge a lot in first stage 2nd and 3rd its stupidly easy to just hide behind pillars

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Originally Posted by jmddavis123

You need to tone it done with him because he over uses the blur, the dash, and fix the self-revive, I literally have 0.2 seconds to try revive myself. And why make me pay for a death that is inevitable?! Make it free for god sake! Please and thank you. Oh and make it have coop. Because it could probably only be done that way.

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Nope. died once. too easy.

I didn't even die. He was easy. The cutscene was awesome.

Beat Nim a couple of hours ago. Not the easiest boss I've ever fought in a game, but he was incredibly far from hard.

One bug I ran into though is that I was stuck at the Extract screen for the entire countdown. It was kind of annoying watching Nim stab my body over and over for two minutes.

Beat him an hour ago died twice with him at a sliver because I stupidly dropped the ball and wanted to go in for the kill shot instead of waiting a split second on the first phase and died on the second phase due to not knowing the new dance... This boss is extremely easy compared to demon souls or dark souls and those games really aren't hard once you know the mechanics of the fight and how to move around and not stand still shooting. If they nerf this boss then we'll have no challenge at all. I wish there were more fights like this so the game wouldn't get stale. Or they could just add an easy mode but you would have to wear a t-shirt that states you couldn't handle a real challenge.

Have they not nerfed him yet? Beat him y'day cant see what all the fuss is about tbh.

I thought it was OP at first after I died almost instantly. Then I swapped out to an LMG and a BMG w/ cloak and a respark shield, killed his first phase... was like YEAH BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY I'M THE MAN... wait what? AGAIN!!!!?? DAMN YOU! Killed him again... OH YEAH I'M THE SHTAKO!! Wait... another one? the hell trion... If I have to kill him a 4th time I'm done."

Takes lots of dodging and pillar humping. Though the fight would've made more sense as a co'op and not a solo mission.

One thing that pissed me off. His ability to use all ego powers.. I mean come on. Should let us use all ego powers at the same time.... so unfair.

Nim is still miles easier than the final boss(es) in Vanquish so..Only thing that may have got me a bit upset was having to fight him more than once technically >_>

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Basically I take back my first post on this boss.

My Ego was completely set up for damage dealing. I respecced my Ego for extra health and shield benefits and I took him out using a BMG without dying.

Not the most interesting of battles but I agree with the original post that being able to don this boss in a team rather than solo would be more fun. I enjoy the team elements of this game.

Finally beat him yesterday. I used a magazine fed Shotgun (I'm not home so I can't see my build). I used a 3 second shield. The first part was always the hard part for me. Once I got past part one, the rest was pretty easy.

I encountered a few bugs. He would shoot me through pillars on stage 3. Knock me to my back when he would roll, even when I wasn't in his direct path.

All in all, I found him to be somewhat tough. I'm not as uber as most of you folks. It would be nice to do missions like this with at least one friend. Heck make him tougher when doing so.

I found him to be really easy with cloak and smg. Use a pilar to block line of site. Use cloak when your shield is down and the SMG helps keep you mobile. I beat him on the first shot.

A few of my friends told me that after stage one you should use a BMG on him because it tracks to him. However, they said it takes forever.

So I listened to them. 25 minutes into stage two I almost had him dead and made a mistake. Had to restart stage 2.

I decided...Why the hell not try my LMG and Overdrive loadout?

5 minutes later stage 2 and 3 were easily crushed.

Its all about abusing the snap aim function.

This is one of the worst bosses ever and considering 90% of the players have given up on the boss fight all together. While there are a few players who will get lucky, then talk trash about how easy his is to beat, get real. This one boss battle has ruined the game for a lot of people, there needs to be some balance in these types of fights, but there is none in this case. He is way overpowered and really needs to be fixed. People pay $60.00 to enjoy a game be able to complete it and not have it end because of an over powered cheap boss. It has nothing to do with having "skills" or having to "man up". Considering the MAJORITY of the games owners have complained about this issue, it seems more in line with the community speaking up regarding a fault in the game. Sure you will have a small few, like I said who will get lucky after hours of trying, but should gamers really be forced to play a 15 minute boss battle for several hours. fact is he is overpowered, and very cheap. Fix it

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This is one of the worst bosses ever and considering 90% of the players have given up on the boss fight all together.

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Actually, 148% of the players beat Nim without using their hands. See? I can make **** up too.

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Actually, 148% of the players beat Nim without using their hands. See? I can make **** up too.

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You're meanie... He just wanted a hug. Poor ROTTEN, can't beat Nim.

@ROTTEN Chill now, everything going to be ok...
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You're meanie... He just wanted a hug. Poor ROTTEN, can't beat Nim.

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No crying! Or else...

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After fighting him completely unprepared the first time my brain instantly concluded he is a LoS enemy, hence break his LoS and you have no worries, he is in fact UNDERPOWERED , get blur, a pump shotgun and some skill and you'll be done in no time. Every enemy has a weakness but unfortunately problem solving skills are the average gamers weakness. No offense to the OP here this is more directed to anyone thinking he's the most terrible boss in the game. Use your noggin guys.

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No crying! Or else...

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But dude. He's been at it for several hours. Let him cry on forums. At least for a bit...

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You need to tone it done with him because he over uses the blur, the dash, and fix the self-revive, I literally have 0.2 seconds to try revive myself. And why make me pay for a death that is inevitable?! Make it free for god sake! Please and thank you. Oh and make it have coop. Because it could probably only be done that way.

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I really hope they don't nerf him.
Nim was perfect in my opinion.
He was definitely a challenge, but he wasn't impossible.
Once you figure out the strategy, it's pretty straight forward.
Just keep at it.

he's too easy. make him harder

This boss isn't hard per se but he is different from a lot of the enemies in-game. As a final boss he doesn't represent a final test of our skills that we learned throughout this game. For those who play other harder games knew this quickly and changed tactics to beat him while others who got lucky with the right skill sets to beat him did so easily. He isn't a bad boss more like a misplaced boss, maybe if the developers introduced more melee-enemies or let us fight him before the final battle we would be better prepared for this. Then maybe we wouldn't have called them out on this.

Who ever said he's the final boss?? The game is just beginning, we have a whole future of screaming and yelling and wishing we had someone easy like Nim to look forward to (actually yes he was a PITA but working it out is what makes you a better gamer *twitch*) DLC, Future content based on how well the show does and where it goes to (just look at BSG and how that turned out (really wishes Caprica hadn't been canceled))

To be honest I really was half expecting a 4th round where he would fart thunder to kill me, I really was

Hello,

I had the impression, that Nim starts to chain smash when he gets low on health during the final phase... to the point that he he smashes fast enough to hit (+knockback) you again when you are just done getting back to your feet.

Eventually I won rather.. erm.. cheaply.

After having gotten stuck in walls during my knockback adventures several times (not being able to move is not helping the ability to dodge) I was slighty eager to just get done..

The fight as a whole felt good, but the last moments ruin it.

Maybe it would have been totally different, if the walls where less sticky. :P

Sux if a "general gameplay bug" ruins the fun for The Final Battle of the current storyline.

It seemed to me, that if you am in the air when the knockback wave reaches you, you avoid the knockback.
But if stuck or still scrambling to get back to your feet, you cannot jump. :(

Regards,
Ada

A lot of people can beat him, and that is an awesome achievement considering how at one point he killed me at 10 seconds flat in one run that I tried from the moment that he started moving. All around killing him is a very good achievement. But the point is that it should not be an 'achievement' per say reserved for a select few, but it should be a challenge that people go 'okay that was annoying but cool'. The shield boss where you had to send the flame thrower dudes under him to explode, that was challenging. It is an example of one of the many challenging missions that were part of the story line that one might die in, and then go back to and complete with some work. But that one shield dude mission (I think Jack is his name), I don't see multiple forum posts saying 'WTFBBQ' about him. Nim is the only boss that has that reserved for. Jack required tactics, a bit of hard work, and a bit of patience. Nim on the other hand requires specific skills, specific equipment, and the reaction time of a squirrel on speed.

Here is an example. In all of my character's travels, the best possible shield I got was 10%/2 second recharge. I literally found nothing other than that specific shield, anywhere, and I am sorry but that is not good enough for this fight. One wrong move in 20 minutes of fighting and you don't have shields period, and that is not going to recharge fast enough to get you back into the fight. I don't have decoy. About 60% of the posts regarding finishing him off said use decoy and he is easy as hell. I use cloak and he is not sitting around waiting for me to line up a shot or two. I don't have a BMG and have never used one. So the idea that the fight is easier with one is out of the running. I don't have the reaction time of a squirrel on speed. I am an average guy that shoots real guns for a living. I have never had to live vicariously through a game, so I am not lightning fast on the draw when it comes to FPS situations, and he requires it.

All around, the fight is not set up for the 'layman'. You should be able to go in with any personal skillset, with the equipment that you have been using, and the skills you have been using, and complete that part of the story. It should be challenging to be sure, but Jack was challenging, and more importantly it was fun. You shouldn't have to go in for hours of pure pain that makes you want to stick a spoon up your own butt, to find just the correct set of circumstances and moves to finish this. If he is supposed to be this hard, then I am sorry he either needs to be toned right the hell down, or he needs to be turned into a party boss (Yes I said party boss, because yes this is supposed to be an RPG and it would provide a reason to get people to stop doing everything solo).

So let's look at the reality of the mathematics involved in their decision on this kind of ending to this part of the storyline. All around, even if let's say 60-70% of players CAN beat him (I am being generous and think the number closer to 40-50%), that leaves 30-40% of a potential player base that will not be able to get past this part of the potential storyline. They will get angry, annoyed, and/or dejected and leave. Now I know that some will say, 'Fine let these babies leave, we are tired of their QQs'. But what this means that from a continued existence of the franchise standpoint, is that this is a disaster for them to alienate 30-40% of their potential continued player base. It means less revenues, which means less development, and means that the game slowly but surely hemorrhages into oblivion. It is widely known from a customer service perspective that one dissatisfied customer equals fifteen (Give or take, but it is also the reason why big companies work so hard to keep a customer happy as hell because it costs insane amounts of money to bring people back). So to use a round number, if 1000 players are pissed enough to say 'screw this', that means that 15,000 people are not playing the game through word of mouth transmission. Not a bad number. But lets multiply that to more realistic levels. Let's use another round number and say 1,000,000 person player base. At the low end of the equation above, let's apply 30% dissatisfaction and they leave. That is 300,000 people that say 'this is dumb' and move on to greener pastures. That means through word of mouth and other forms of communication about their experiences about the game, 4.5 million people are negatively affected by the game. So 4.2 million people that could potentially try the game are already saying 'I heard that it is stupid'. This means less revenues, and less money on development because they need to advertise even harder to change their minds. And for what? Because some developer thought 'it should be hard' and didn't get smacked in the head by his bosses. I am not saying that it should be easy. I am saying that if a vast cross section of the player base are saying that the Nim fight is dumb like a bag of hammers, that it should be moved into the challenging category (Like the Jack fight), and out of the we need a party to fight him and/or the reaction time of Jet Li after smoking a big fat bag of crack.

The fight is an achievement the way that it is. I don't take away from that. If you got past it, then I say kudos to you as in hours of fighting I can't even get past his first iteration. But keep in mind that the numbers above say that that 'achievement' of fighting and beating your hard boss, is going to cost the game insane amounts in the long run. From a purely fiscal and developmental standpoint brought on by continued revenues of game purchases, and game store purchases brought on by a full and continually expanding player base, you even with your achievement will want Nim toned the hell down also. This will keep the company coffers full to give you all continued material to play with. Keep him as an E-Peen achievement, and you lose continued development and eventually the game. No skin off my back though as I have done my hours of stupidity on Nim, and now don't play till they fix this. When asked I say hell no don't play this game, here is a beta key to Firefall if you want a RPGish FPS. And that is how easy it is for 15 people to be affected, and why it will cost everyone in the Defiance community more and more the longer this remains unaffected. Up to you.

Once you get past the 1st phase, hes not to hard, definitely the most challenging fight of the game though. Try sprinting to dodge the dash attacks, thats the only thing i got to work.

When I fought him the first time I actually didnt know about the ammo packs around the sides of the room. That got ugly fast =(

I found in the 3rd phase a Wolfhound pistol makes the fight go REALLY fast.