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  • 04-18-2015, 12:11 PM
    Mrdr
    DK and Johnny I was going to write the same thing but erased it for the reasons I mentioned.

    Henri thanks for the advice. I see your point and understand it. I agree that there are bigger fish to fry but Trion chose this one for us to eat. I have no idea why but that's what they did. Perhaps it was easier and faster than the other things so they tackled it first. Perhaps it was a way to force the impatient to buy stuff. Who knows? Many of the game issues (stability etc) have been around since the start from what I've read so hopefully they're looking into them. As new ones come up I definitely have no problem providing negative constructive feedback to Trion--I've participated in a few already.
  • 04-18-2015, 12:17 PM
    jokeUsa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrdr View Post
    I see your point but I've never known Defiance to be completely bug free lol. I think it's decently designed though.

    5700 AF to re-master 3 guns...decently designed :rolleyes:
    Completely FAILED car system...decent...
    Inexistant or negative: amount of farm time spent to reward/quality of reward factor (inb4 RNG: yea, right, my ***).
    And a BEAUTIFULL cherry on top of that: the last patch with its "lets suck even more from these imbeciles" motto, aka the adverts, the notrade rewards, the notrade rigs and chips, heck, i heard the rewards from expeditions can be completely lost now cause they wont go to pending items (read: buy even more overpriced inv slots!)...yeeeeeaaaa....decently :/

    And these are just a few issues.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DK Moore View Post
    The only idiots that I see, are the ones complaining and crying that they can't upgrade their exploited weapons. You should all count yourselves lucky that they weren't removed from your accounts. Trion have the right to ban you all for using such an exploit, but they haven't, yet people are still crying! Either deal with it or stop playing the game.

    In case you've missed it (for example by living in your delusional world), LoCarb, the GAME DEV himself admitted that grabbing the guns to your highest ego char is >intended<. You do understand what "intended" means, do you?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DK Moore View Post
    As for people being "Fanboys" because they show support to the developers... blahblahblahcryexploit anymoreblahblahblah

    I can see you don't understand the difference between supporting and being a fanboi - i'd logically suggest to look it up on the net but then again fanbois don't listen to logic.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Johnny Gatt View Post
    I guess I still don't understand why everyone is so upset. Trion gave you a free jackpot gun. You made more toons and got more free jackpot guns. Now you have jackpot guns that match the ego of toon you earned it on. if you don'the like the gun you got, vendor it. Farming free jackpots on new toons to exploit a glitch and be upset when it gets patched is absurd.

    Not exploit/glitch, as according to devs.

    SUMUP: I don't understand why all of the fanbois keep thinking that these guns are actually free while they're sponsored ENTIRELY by the playerbase that purchases Trion's junk.

    Yet once again: Fetch!
  • 04-18-2015, 12:28 PM
    Mrdr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jokeUsa View Post
    5700 AF to re-master 3 guns...decently designed :rolleyes:
    Completely FAILED car system...decent...
    Inexistant or negative: amount of farm time spent to reward/quality of reward factor (inb4 RNG: yea, right, my ***).
    And a BEAUTIFULL cherry on top of that: the last patch with its "lets suck even more from these imbeciles" motto, aka the adverts, the notrade rewards, the notrade rigs and chips, heck, i heard the rewards from expeditions can be completely lost now cause they wont go to pending items (read: buy even more overpriced inv slots!)...yeeeeeaaaa....decently :/

    And these are just a few issues.

    <snip>

    Gotcha. I was thing design as in the mechanics, textures, etc of the game--the look and feel if you will. Those things you mentioned are more controlled variables that they can easily change. To me they're more like decisions on in-game resources that were made as well as marketing. Except for the car thing. I'm not sure what you mean as I've had no problems with them except for the odd bit of lag when cruising (have to wait for the environment to spawn lots and hit objects that have spawned behind the scenes but on my screen). That sucks for sure but otherwise it's not that bad that I can see. Maybe I just haven't run into the same things as you.
  • 04-18-2015, 12:32 PM
    Fuzzy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jokeUsa View Post
    snip

    Tell me again it was intended:

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...93#post1731793
    Quote:

    While I'd love to fix how in-game drops work with claims, that's something that will require some significant engineering effort to accomplish and those guys are a wee bit busy working on more important things right now. It's something that might be possible in the future, but not for Armistice.
    Fix being the important word here.

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...93#post1708793

    Quote:

    It is, kinda, just not intended for this particular use.

    Claims was built primarily so we could grant items to accounts which could then be claimed on any character (thus the name). In that case, the scaling to the EGO of the claimant makes sense. The whole "extra inventory gets punted to claims" is secondary and picked up that scaling feature by happenstance.

    I'm not a huge fan of claims being used as inventory overflow to begin with (though have no intent on changing that), but what should really happen is the item should get set to your EGO rating when you loot it THEN go to claims where it retains that information.
    Oh, and another interesting post, not directed at you directly:

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...77#post1731777
    Quote:

    Honestly, if it were about the money, I wouldn't have introduced the freebies to start with.

    This is about finding a way to still do something nice for people while limiting the impact of exploitative behavior that evolved due to how things are set up.
    As for the difference between supporting and being a "fanboy" - Supporter support a company (haha), but know when some of their decisions are just wrong, their game has faults, a fanboy wouldn't see that.
    I think most of the guys here defending the decision of Trion, fixing this bug, have stated multiple times that Trion does indeed makes mistakes, one being not announcing this decision and/or reverting the non-tradeable part.
  • 04-18-2015, 12:38 PM
    jokeUsa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrdr View Post
    Gotcha. I was thing design as in the mechanics, textures, etc of the game--the look and feel if you will. Those things you mentioned are more controlled variables that they can easily change. To me they're more like decisions on in-game resources that were made as well as marketing. Except for the car thing. I'm not sure what you mean as I've had no problems with them except for the odd bit of lag when cruising (have to wait for the environment to spawn lots and hit objects that have spawned behind the scenes but on my screen). That sucks for sure but otherwise it's not that bad that I can see. Maybe I just haven't run into the same things as you.

    Naw, i dont pay much mind to graphics/textures (i still enjoy fallout 2 and Fallout Online!).

    As for the car, for example:
    - the horrid difference of control between low speeds and high speeds (and actually lack of generic car control),
    - the inability to get out of the vehicle on demand (!!!!!),
    - the fact that the slightest rock on the floor can often stop your vehicle completely, or turn it around 180~360,
    - the fact that you can NOT drive on an hill - not vertically, up or down the hill, just horizontally and
    - the related to it fact that most cars lack the power/kick in general (car being stopped by one mob is a sad sad fail),
    - the inability to normally move from one place to another due to roadblocks that are extremely annoying (especially when you're in a hurry),
    - the fact that the explosion of the mini crystal on the major event destroys your car (aka you cant normally proceed to the next mini part of the major),
    - the fact that your car instantly dies to almost any silly mob...

    Just a few that came to my mind...these things are the generic design FAILS that could've been prevented by simply using your imagination.
    Why do you think people despise Time Trials and why so many abused the "Golden whatever the score" bug?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Tell me again it was intended: Fix being the important word here.

    You do realize you can fix a feature that is not working as intended? Just in case the allmighty white knight DK pops up: A feature not working as intended does NOT equal a bug or an exploit.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    As for the difference between supporting and being a "fanboy" - Supporter support a company (haha), but know when some of their decisions are just wrong, their game has faults, a fanboy wouldn't see that.
    I think most of the guys here defending the decision of Trion, fixing this bug, have stated multiple times that Trion does indeed makes mistakes, one being not announcing this decision and/or reverting the non-tradeable part.

    I didn't mean the most. I ment the few that display the "Fanboi" behavior by blindlessly going on defending Trion whatever they do.
  • 04-18-2015, 12:45 PM
    DK Moore
    I haven't missed anything, so you are mistaken, yet again. It wasn't intended.

    If it were "intended" then there would of been no need to remove/fix it. There is no logic in that.

    As for your constant "fanboy" theory's... I'd suggest you pick up a dictionary and look up the meaning ;) as you clearly do have an obsession.
  • 04-18-2015, 12:54 PM
    jokeUsa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DK Moore View Post
    blahblahfanboispamblahblah

    I didn't expect a fanboi to show some logic, especially from one that kicks people from "his" clan for not agreeing with him (not even talking about myself anymore) :)

    On topic or rather offtopic: can anyone tell me where do i post if i'd want to ask the devs a simple quick question? Hard to actually tell which forum would fit that.
  • 04-18-2015, 12:55 PM
    Smokey Black
    Lol at burning 5000 AF to master guns. I gave up after I used 500.. I'll take a reload mastery all day.
  • 04-18-2015, 12:58 PM
    malky
    1 Attachment(s)
    ITT jail
    you seem upset, wanna talk about it?

    Attachment 8679
  • 04-18-2015, 01:03 PM
    DK Moore
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jokeUsa View Post
    I didn't expect a fanboi to show some logic, especially from one that kicks people from "his" clan for not agreeing with him (not even talking about myself anymore) :)

    I don't kick people without good reason. And I would say 100+ people begging for you to go was reason enough. As you did nothing but abuse them, insult them, refused to see logical reasoning and constantly causing grief to other members. That is the reason you were kicked, which you have been told multiple times already. Why are you still crying about it? No one misses you. I know which others you are referring to and they were removed for the same reasoning. All leaders agreed on the decision, and all members were happy about it. And if you knew anything about Red Thugs, you would know that it doesn't belong to just one person.

    I think that's enough of your idiocy for one day. May you and your fanboys have fun :)
  • 04-18-2015, 01:25 PM
    jokeUsa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DK Moore View Post
    blahblahblahimthekingoftheworldblahblah

    That's a nice stack of lies, afraid of the truth how you and your puppies treat the peasants(read: low rank members and people who don't nod to anything you say) going public, trying to save your face I see. No less expected from you :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smokey Black View Post
    Lol at burning 5000 AF to master guns. I gave up after I used 500.. I'll take a reload mastery all day.

    So many guns's usefullness depends on the mastery that its simply impossible to leave as is - for example almost all snipers and the recoil mastery.
    There are additionally player tactics that also heavily depend on it, there are also people who just like to master their guns the way they want....that's precisely why i mastered my feaster into Run Speed on reload...
    Sadly it got me to a point where i dont even care anymore cause the AF farm got far too tedious and there doesn't seem to be any effect to it, much less end of grind.
  • 04-18-2015, 01:39 PM
    DK Moore
    LOL! I have nothing to hide Jail. All members are treated equally. There are no lies in what I said, I have no reason to. Your just still butthurt over it, everyone in the clan can see that. Its pretty pathetic. So if it makes you feel better to spin up these petty little scenarios in your head, then by all means. You do that :) Its sad, but whatever helps you sleep at night. No one has ever taken you seriously and surprisingly still doesn't. I wonder why... But yeah, you keep on saying what you like. I honestly don't care, as myself and all the clan know the truth.

    See you around Jail, have fun farming that AF ;)
  • 04-18-2015, 01:46 PM
    SilverWF
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    The Jackpot weapons can't be traded no more, why you have to put EGO rating on it? :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Because Trion fall in deep greed.
    Go to Bits store and buy arkforges.
  • 04-18-2015, 01:49 PM
    jokeUsa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DK Moore View Post
    I honestly don't care

    And yet i still post walls of text :)


    Edit: so, can anyone tell me where do i post a topic in which i'd like to ask the devs, or whoever is there up at trion, a question?

    Edit2, @ below: if they can't handle tired/annoyed/pissed off players and/or if they won't reply at all, that kind of answer would satisfy me as well (although it'd most likely mean I'm right but not like it'd matter).
  • 04-18-2015, 02:01 PM
    malky
    nooooot so sure devs will respond to a person who embodies the "lovegently"-trion-cause-reasons attitute. just saying
  • 04-18-2015, 02:03 PM
    SilverWF
    Pay-to-win game
    Noone likes it
  • 04-18-2015, 02:08 PM
    Mrdr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jokeUsa View Post
    Naw, i dont pay much mind to graphics/textures (i still enjoy fallout 2 and Fallout Online!).

    As for the car, for example:
    - the horrid difference of control between low speeds and high speeds (and actually lack of generic car control),
    - the inability to get out of the vehicle on demand (!!!!!),
    - the fact that the slightest rock on the floor can often stop your vehicle completely, or turn it around 180~360,
    - the fact that you can NOT drive on an hill - not vertically, up or down the hill, just horizontally and
    - the related to it fact that most cars lack the power/kick in general (car being stopped by one mob is a sad sad fail),
    - the inability to normally move from one place to another due to roadblocks that are extremely annoying (especially when you're in a hurry),
    - the fact that the explosion of the mini crystal on the major event destroys your car (aka you cant normally proceed to the next mini part of the major),
    - the fact that your car instantly dies to almost any silly mob...

    Just a few that came to my mind...these things are the generic design FAILS that could've been prevented by simply using your imagination.
    Why do you think people despise Time Trials and why so many abused the "Golden whatever the score" bug?

    <snip>

    None of those really bothered me much. I mean lots of them are a lot like what happens in real life (well except for getting out of it on demand--that one I totally agree with). I hate being the guy who drive through an arkfall because I can't exit it in time. I have to plan ahead to stop before the arkfall and just run into it rather than just stunt rolling out at high speeds (which always makes me laugh btw) and letting the car fade away into thin air.
  • 04-18-2015, 02:18 PM
    jokeUsa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrdr View Post
    None of those really bothered me much. I mean lots of them are a lot like what happens in real life (well except for getting out of it on demand--that one I totally agree with). I hate being the guy who drive through an arkfall because I can't exit it in time. I have to plan ahead to stop before the arkfall and just run into it rather than just stunt rolling out at high speeds (which always makes me laugh btw) and letting the car fade away into thin air.

    Please, let's not get to similarities between RL life and Sci-Fi...not sure if they actually apply here and daaaaaaaamn i cba to write up such a long reply ;)

    Anyways, i used to ask around, and these were the most common issues with other people as well :/
    And yea, getting out of car is one of the most annoying ones...not even before the arkfall, but if theres a roadblock on your way (and these tend to magically appear 10~20m in front of your speeding car) and you try to take a turn to avoid it, you fail, because of horrbly poor car control, hit the rock or car that changes your direction a bit, and you fall into the water because you cannot get out fast enough...
    ...that actually happens to me quite often as i drive around the coast...it was funny the first 5 times :/
    Edit: totally forgot - breaks (spacebar) not working...at least not when going forward...it does seem to work properly when going backwards...additionally, breaking often turns your car by so damn much, even if you drive a straight line.

    And yea, the stunt rollout in mid air is epic, it still happens once in a year and i always love shooting mobs from up :)
  • 04-18-2015, 03:34 PM
    Mrdr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jokeUsa View Post
    Please, let's not get to similarities between RL life and Sci-Fi...not sure if they actually apply here and daaaaaaaamn i cba to write up such a long reply ;)

    Anyways, i used to ask around, and these were the most common issues with other people as well :/
    And yea, getting out of car is one of the most annoying ones...not even before the arkfall, but if theres a roadblock on your way (and these tend to magically appear 10~20m in front of your speeding car) and you try to take a turn to avoid it, you fail, because of horrbly poor car control, hit the rock or car that changes your direction a bit, and you fall into the water because you cannot get out fast enough...
    ...that actually happens to me quite often as i drive around the coast...it was funny the first 5 times :/
    Edit: totally forgot - breaks (spacebar) not working...at least not when going forward...it does seem to work properly when going backwards...additionally, breaking often turns your car by so damn much, even if you drive a straight line.

    And yea, the stunt rollout in mid air is epic, it still happens once in a year and i always love shooting mobs from up :)

    Didn't mean to equate the to RL just saying that it seems to be more like RL than otherwise in that control is lost at higher speeds etc. I'm not saying the game should be like RL because well then we wouldn't have a game. As for the braking I find that I can almost 360 the dune buggy when braking at top speed to turn lol. I've started to try powers losing like that into a crowd to see how many npc's I can kill with one run. Good times!

    And dropping bullets on mobs from the air is awesome!
  • 04-18-2015, 03:35 PM
    konstantinov
    Did you guys know that the North Pole isn't actually true North?
  • 04-18-2015, 03:53 PM
    Yakalfurd
    Personally I felt that Trion had the problem fixed by making reward jackpots non-tradable. I've been playing this game since sometime before the timers we're added to WM. I paid money for this game , I've bought all the dlcs. I have 4 toons the same 4 toons I got by buying this game. I personally think that I should have the choice to chose which one of those toons that I paid for got my reward jackpots I didn't care if they were tradable or not. I understand fully the argument that these were gifts and I appreciate that fact. I just wish Trion would be a little more appreciative towards those players that supported this game by buying it before it went f2p and also those who've bought the dlcs as well. I've supported Trion throughout a lot of decisions they've made people didn't like, understanding that they are a company trying to earn a profit (nothing wrong with that) But this and needing to spend bits in order to gain access to cores for dlc weapons & mods for a dlc I've paid for already is just a step too far over the line.
  • 04-18-2015, 04:27 PM
    mr8liner
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrdr View Post
    But you CHOSE to spend all that you never HAD to. I also chose to spend money. Bought the ultimate edition then just dropped some more on expansion slots. I'm not crying about it because it was my choice to do so. Trion offered me (and everyone else) everything I need to play their game for FREE. Just because you don't feel like you should have to pay for all the extras doesn't mean you're right. I don't feel that I should have to pay taxes but I do. I do it so my garbage gets picked up and my roads get repaired, etc. if no one pays taxes then all that **** we take for granted literally piles up. Too many people are taking Trion for granted here. How do you expect them to keep the lights on with no income? So you've spent some money. Good. Spend some more to get things faster to r so it the slower FREE way. Your choice. But don't whine about them offering a faster way of getting what you want or more addons (slots,toons etc) at a price.

    Taxes are not used to pay for your garbage. You pay your garbage serivce to pick it up. You don't pay them they don't come and pick it up.

    "how do you expect them to keep the lights on with no income" That there is their problem. All of their items are over priced. 760 bits for an outfit. that's $7.60 for and outfit. Rep, script, af,slavage,score boost are all not worth the money. I used to get rep boosts every week, then the items that were gotten out of them made them not worth getting.

    They have every opporturnity to make enough money but they choose to only get money from 5-10% of players instead of 60-80% of them. I'll bet any amount of money that if they cut their prices in half for a whole month, they would make more money that month then same month the previous year.

    I am tried of people defending Trion, about money when they can easily enough make more then they need , but choose not too
  • 04-18-2015, 05:27 PM
    Axelle Axe
    The jackpot weapons that we receive is NOT FREE! We worked for it... So I don't understand why people keep saying it's free coz its NOT! If its free why would I have to do daily contracts just to have the weekly reward? I should just have it in my claims. The definition of Free is able to act or be done as one wishes. So if I don't wanna do the daily contract am I still gonna receive weekly reward? the answer is plain and simple NO! Time is gold we wasted our time and effort to do the daily contract and by accomplishing it we deserve a reward. It's just like you working in real life, you work for someone coz you know that in the end of the day/week/month you will receive a compensation from the time you consumed working. Are you gonna work if you know that no one will pay you? of course NOT unless otherwise it's for charity. Why Trion is not obliged to give us reward? If they don't wanna give us reward then they shouldn't have a contract for us to be done. We done our part as an employee in the game they should do their part as an employer.
  • 04-18-2015, 05:46 PM
    konstantinov
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    The jackpot weapons that we receive is NOT FREE! We worked for it... So I don't understand why people keep saying it's free coz its NOT! If its free why would I have to do daily contracts just to have the weekly reward? I should just have it in my claims. The definition of Free is able to act or be done as one wishes. So if I don't wanna do the daily contract am I still gonna receive weekly reward? the answer is plain and simple NO! Time is gold we wasted our time and effort to do the daily contract and by accomplishing it we deserve a reward. It's just like you working in real life, you work for someone coz you know that in the end of the day/week/month you will receive a compensation from the time you consumed working. Are you gonna work if you know that no one will pay you? of course NOT unless otherwise it's for charity. Why Trion is not obliged to give us reward? If they don't wanna give us reward then they shouldn't have a contract for us to be done. We done our part as an employee in the game they should do their part as an employer.

    Your logic is seriously flawed.

    1. How much did you have to pay for the game?
    2. How much did you have to pay to do the event quests?
    3. How much did you have to pay to claim the item?
    4. How much did you have to pay for it to be an OJ named weapon?
    5. How did you come to the conclusion that this is like a job?
    6. Defiance costs nothing to download, so how is it costing you anything?
    7. Do you understand what a consumer is?
    8. Did you know that a ego 20 player could do the weekly contract and get a free named OJ?
    9. Do you really think that you're paying the same amount it costs companies to make things in every aspect of your life?
    10. If milk costs $4 a gallon do you really think it costs the farmer $4 to make?

    Every company is out to make a profit because if they don't then they go bye bye. Welcome to the capitalist market.
  • 04-18-2015, 05:49 PM
    Axelle Axe
    Not all compensation is by means of money. I paid almost 50 bucks for the hard copy of the game so its Not free!
  • 04-18-2015, 05:57 PM
    konstantinov
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    Not all compensation is by means of money. I paid almost 50 bucks for the hard copy of the game so its Not free!

    Where did it say pay now before you could play?
  • 04-18-2015, 06:08 PM
    Axelle Axe
    Not all payment is by means of money it could be by means of time and services. It says in the receipt. Can you just grab it in the mall and walk away then start playing? of course not you have to pay for it first. Can I just order the hard copy of the game in the internet without paying for it? I have to pay for it before they will send me the copy right?
  • 04-18-2015, 06:14 PM
    konstantinov
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    Not all payment is by means of money it could be by means of time and services. It says in the receipt. Can you just grab it in the mall and walk away then start playing? of course not you have to pay for it first. Can I just order the hard copy of the game in the internet without paying for it? I have to pay for it before they will send me the copy right?

    You're argument is totally invalid due to it being FREE on the PSN store.
  • 04-18-2015, 06:18 PM
    Axelle Axe
    We are not really gonna meet in the middle coz you didn't buy the hard copy wherein fact I did so it's NOT free for me, for you it is!
  • 04-18-2015, 06:23 PM
    Derailer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    The jackpot weapons that we receive is NOT FREE! We worked for it... So I don't understand why people keep saying it's free coz its NOT! If its free why would I have to do daily contracts just to have the weekly reward? I should just have it in my claims. The definition of Free is able to act or be done as one wishes. So if I don't wanna do the daily contract am I still gonna receive weekly reward? the answer is plain and simple NO! Time is gold we wasted our time and effort to do the daily contract and by accomplishing it we deserve a reward. It's just like you working in real life, you work for someone coz you know that in the end of the day/week/month you will receive a compensation from the time you consumed working. Are you gonna work if you know that no one will pay you? of course NOT unless otherwise it's for charity. Why Trion is not obliged to give us reward? If they don't wanna give us reward then they shouldn't have a contract for us to be done. We done our part as an employee in the game they should do their part as an employer.

    None of that makes any sense.

    You think you are a real "employee" in the game because the mission is called a "contract"...?

    That's crazy. It's a game. It's not a job.

    Trion is a real company with real employees who have real jobs.

    Von Bach and Echelon and 7th Legion and Top-Notch are not real companies and you are not a real employee. The "contracts" are for fun and that's all. In the game fake corporations give you fake jobs to go do fake things. You completing a contract benefits trion in no way at all.
  • 04-18-2015, 06:29 PM
    konstantinov
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    We are not really gonna meet in the middle coz you didn't buy the hard copy wherein fact I did so it's NOT free for me, for you it is!

    Umm............
  • 04-18-2015, 06:32 PM
    Axelle Axe
    It's a metaphor when I called us an employee and trion is our employer! Time is more valuable than money. I guess for all the players who are saying that having jackpot weapons are free they DON'T value their time and effort!
  • 04-18-2015, 06:36 PM
    konstantinov
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    It's a metaphor when I called us an employee and trion is our employer! Time is more valuable than money. I guess for all the players who are saying that having jackpot weapons are free they DON'T value their time and effort!

    Who's forcing you to play?
  • 04-18-2015, 06:41 PM
    Axelle Axe
    My brother! :p For all the money I spent in bit store I have to at least enjoy it. That's why I am here in the forum coz I am concerned for Trion to fix the game that's what this forum is for right?
  • 04-18-2015, 06:48 PM
    Derailer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    It's a metaphor when I called us an employee and trion is our employer! Time is more valuable than money. I guess for all the players who are saying that having jackpot weapons are free they DON'T value their time and effort!

    Seriously? You think you are giving trion your valuable time and doing them a favor by playing a video game?

    No.

    It's a video game.

    You should be playing because you actually enjoy it. Because it's fun for you and out of all the things you could be doing with your time you actually prefer to spend it playing this video game instead.

    If it feels like work stop playing. If it's not fun stop playing. If you are doing it as a favor for trion stop playing. You aren't giving trion ANYTHING unless you are buying bits. I am dumbfounded by the amount of entitlement you are displaying.
  • 04-18-2015, 06:50 PM
    Niner82
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    My brother! :p For all the money I spent in bit store I have to at least enjoy it. That's why I am here in the forum coz I am concerned for Trion to fix the game that's what this forum is for right?

    This game is fine, I still have fun with it. So I have to do more co-op to earn forge, so what. Definately not buying it and nobody is forcing me to.
  • 04-18-2015, 06:55 PM
    JKG
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    The jackpot weapons that we receive is NOT FREE! We worked for it... So I don't understand why people keep saying it's free coz its NOT! If its free why would I have to do daily contracts just to have the weekly reward? I should just have it in my claims. The definition of Free is able to act or be done as one wishes. So if I don't wanna do the daily contract am I still gonna receive weekly reward? the answer is plain and simple NO! Time is gold we wasted our time and effort to do the daily contract and by accomplishing it we deserve a reward. It's just like you working in real life, you work for someone coz you know that in the end of the day/week/month you will receive a compensation from the time you consumed working. Are you gonna work if you know that no one will pay you? of course NOT unless otherwise it's for charity. Why Trion is not obliged to give us reward? If they don't wanna give us reward then they shouldn't have a contract for us to be done. We done our part as an employee in the game they should do their part as an employer.


    Please tell me how many guarantee names you got before this an the previous 2 events Solstice and VDay ?

    Trion Didn't have to do the weeklys an you say its not free because you put time in it well so did i an so have many others but i was grateful i had an opportunity to get weapons that i couldn't before. Please tell me how many guarantee names come from bit boxes ..... 0 yeah 0. I bought a few an yes i pulled names but none were guaranteed an to get those names i had to spend real money. At the end of the day these were free nobody forced you to do the daily's you could have played something else any time .
  • 04-18-2015, 06:55 PM
    Axelle Axe
    Guys I went to this forum to give trion a feed back. They should at least wait until the event is over! I don't mind spending money in bit store coz I can the problem is they should fix the server stability that's all. Players will spend more money in the game when the server stability fix and please lower the prices of bits. You will have more sales when those things realized.
  • 04-18-2015, 07:19 PM
    konstantinov
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Axelle Axe View Post
    Guys I went to this forum to give trion a feed back. They should at least wait until the event is over! I don't mind spending money in bit store coz I can the problem is they should fix the server stability that's all. Players will spend more money in the game when the server stability fix and please lower the prices of bits. You will have more sales when those things realized.

    Then give feedback and stop complaining. Every post you've made has lacked legitimacy and is just a plea for free stuff at your discretion.
  • 04-18-2015, 07:23 PM
    Niner82
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by konstantinov View Post
    Then give feedback and stop complaining. Every post you've made has lacked legitimacy and is just a plea for free stuff at your discretion.

    This forum is flooded anymore with complaints instead of feedback . Time to start passing out the Midol :).
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