i wanna know how the players really feel cuz this how i feel :mad::mad::mad::mad:

ok so I have been playing since late jan early feb & I bought the ultimate edition recently but now they added Alcatraz and its not a free to play game mode I have heard the reason being is cuz trion needs more bit sales to keep the game going well my suggestion to the devs is this give the players what they want we don't want to pay to play a new game mode we want the supplu crates in the bit store to gaurentee a orange weapon if not a named if we are paying money we want exsactly what we paid for also the trade locked weeklys is bull sh*t you people at trion have you hand out but you don't have a active coustomer support phone number you want us to play this game and pay you guys money but you don't give us what we want out of the game I have seen peoples suggestions to improve the game go un answered and ignored we wan the game to be a cirtian way also get rid of the new roll system and go back to the old the new one is under powerd and straight garbage also your 24 hour reset is what is messing up ur servers and ive heard u have 3 games on the same set of servers also not good and ive heard cuz the pc player base out numbers the console player base is the reason pc gets better quality well if dev put effort to make consoles better than pc then you would see a change in that also you want us to continue to pay for stuff in your game rather than unlocking and getting it free through gameplay but I have seen continuasly that there is no plans to port over to next gen consoles that sways people away aswell you dev's at trion need my advice to fix your game I have been a gamer since commodore 64 Atari sega genesis and nentendo I am a authority on what makes a game awesome and what makes one suck so you guys can contact me ingame I play on ps3 NA server toon name : mox themyth

you can also post on this thread i'll be checking it daily

hopefully I got the devs attention on this one

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ok so I have been playing since late jan early feb & I bought the ultimate edition recently but now they added Alcatraz and its not a free to play game mode I have heard the reason being is cuz trion needs more bit sales to keep the game going well my suggestion to the devs is this give the players what they want we don't want to pay to play a new game mode we want the supplu crates in the bit store to gaurentee a orange weapon if not a named if we are paying money we want exsactly what we paid for also the trade locked weeklys is bull sh*t you people at trion have you hand out but you don't have a active coustomer support phone number you want us to play this game and pay you guys money but you don't give us what we want out of the game I have seen peoples suggestions to improve the game go un answered and ignored we wan the game to be a cirtian way also get rid of the new roll system and go back to the old the new one is under powerd and straight garbage also your 24 hour reset is what is messing up ur servers and ive heard u have 3 games on the same set of servers also not good and ive heard cuz the pc player base out numbers the console player base is the reason pc gets better quality well if dev put effort to make consoles better than pc then you would see a change in that also you want us to continue to pay for stuff in your game rather than unlocking and getting it free through gameplay but I have seen continuasly that there is no plans to port over to next gen consoles that sways people away aswell you dev's at trion need my advice to fix your game I have been a gamer since commodore 64 Atari sega genesis and nentendo I am a authority on what makes a game awesome and what makes one suck so you guys can contact me ingame I play on ps3 NA server toon name : mox themyth

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Ok,I tried to do my best at reading this but let me get this straight:You want a guaranteed legendary item from BitStore boxes?Now that is real Pay to Win.

yes if I am paying REAL money they I want exsactly what im paying for

Let me get this straight - we now have to pay for fullstops, commas and paragraph spaces?

Are these now also available in the bit store?

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yes if I am paying REAL money they I want exsactly what im paying for

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Well,you can get a guaranteed OJ(kinda).Just dump 200$ into the game.

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Let me get this straight - we now have to pay for fullstops, commas and paragraph spaces?

Are these now also available in the bit store?

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Yes,it's a new boost.Patron users get it too.

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ok so I have been playing since late jan early feb & I bought the ultimate edition recently but now they added Alcatraz and its not a free to play game mode I have heard the reason being is cuz trion needs more bit sales to keep the game going well my suggestion to the devs is this give the players what they want we don't want to pay to play a new game mode we want the supplu crates in the bit store to gaurentee a orange weapon if not a named if we are paying money we want exsactly what we paid for also the trade locked weeklys is bull sh*t you people at trion have you hand out but you don't have a active coustomer support phone number you want us to play this game and pay you guys money but you don't give us what we want out of the game I have seen peoples suggestions to improve the game go un answered and ignored we wan the game to be a cirtian way also get rid of the new roll system and go back to the old the new one is under powerd and straight garbage also your 24 hour reset is what is messing up ur servers and ive heard u have 3 games on the same set of servers also not good and ive heard cuz the pc player base out numbers the console player base is the reason pc gets better quality well if dev put effort to make consoles better than pc then you would see a change in that also you want us to continue to pay for stuff in your game rather than unlocking and getting it free through gameplay but I have seen continuasly that there is no plans to port over to next gen consoles that sways people away aswell you dev's at trion need my advice to fix your game I have been a gamer since commodore 64 Atari sega genesis and nentendo I am a authority on what makes a game awesome and what makes one suck so you guys can contact me ingame I play on ps3 NA server toon name : mox themyth

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If you want a good laugh or a good headache you should read this. I laughed at first, but now the reality of someone actually writing this is setting in and it's giving me a headache.

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Yes,it's a new boost.Patron users get it too.

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You forgot to mention that spell check costs 1 Hunter Req Token to use.

last I checked I live in America land of the free and I have the right to voice my opinion I aint gonna end up banned from the game and forums for speaking my mind and I can sue if itdoes happen as it its a violation of my amendment rights in the u.s constitution

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last I checked I live in America land of the free and I have the right to voice my opinion I aint gonna end up banned from the game and forums for speaking my mind and I can sue if itdoes happen as it its a violation of my amendment rights in the u.s constitution

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This is their website,they do what they want.Also,in what grounds are you going to sue a gaming company?I mean,you are a keyboard warrior and they are a company.Which one do you think that will win?

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...you dev's at trion need my advice to fix your game I have been a gamer since commodore 64 Atari sega genesis and nentendo I am a authority on what makes a game awesome and what makes one suck so you guys can contact me ingame...

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This is the only bit you need to read Devs.. honestly :D

its called I would not sue for anyother reason than them banning to silence me that is a violation of federal law and i'll tell you a corperation will lose to the federal government everytime anyway I just want them to care about there players more than there bank accounts in retro spect im looking out for trion cuz defiance is dying and I wanna see it make it to next gen

you got that right

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This is the only bit you need to read Devs.. honestly :D

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Originally Posted by mox themyth

last I checked I live in America land of the free and I have the right to voice my opinion I aint gonna end up banned from the game and forums for speaking my mind and I can sue if itdoes happen as it its a violation of my amendment rights in the u.s constitution

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Ha Ha Ha
Oh, you're serious
BWAHAHA

Don't mess with the Juggalo Rydas.

WHOOP WHOOP MOX

Ride or die

omg here we go

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Ha Ha Ha
Oh, you're serious
BWAHAHA

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This OP,this is the people´s opinion.

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last I checked I live in America land of the free and I have the right to voice my opinion I aint gonna end up banned from the game and forums for speaking my mind and I can sue if itdoes happen as it its a violation of my amendment rights in the u.s constitution

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That's not how it works. Your right to free speech is only a protection against government censorship and punishment. You do not have the right to say what you want with regards to private entities such as business, churches, etc. They all have the right to refuse service and/or have you removed from their premises if they wish. You also agreed to a contract with Trion when you created an account on these forums that if you did not follow their rules of conduct that they could remove your account.

because gernades lol I seen that in a parody video earlier lol anyway I love this game I just want the devs to do what would be best for the players and there wallets why do they have to be so difficult there forgetting the number one rule in business ( the consumer is always right )

I just want to talk to the devs I want to hear them out in a voice chat so iu can read the sencirity in there voice so I know the defiance community aint getting a big f u from the devs

For the record Alcatraz is not pay-to-play. It's pay-to-play-as-much-as-you-want. There is a difference. As for server resets, it's actually those that help keep servers relatively stable, the longer they go without being reset the more chance of bugs appearing.

I have built a server b4 and the resets cause most of the lag the longer a server runs the faster it gets they need to fix the bugs another way and the bugs are more than likely caused by the other games being hosted on the same servers

I know computers I have a college (bacholors) degree in it programing and development of

call it what you want but if I have to shell out money to compleat a contract its p2p

The players will win finally. Because they need players to play the game and like it so much, they will pay a little every time for fun stuff... Trion don't understand this it seems. And that's a shame. The game has potential as has the whole world concept of Defiance.
Look at Lord of the Rings online. I know, its a totally different game. But I play it now for many years! Why? Because all you can buy, you can also get by playing the game hardcore. Its like working for bits in game. It takes months of playing to get it, but when you don't have the cash it's an option.

That's an totally different concept as I see at Trion. Get the feeling its more an concept of Cashing fast, and then drop the game for a new game, and repeat. Well who wants to pay for some unclear item box, and when you finally have something, it's maybe gone for good. Don't building trust with your customers that way. I hope they realize this sooner or later.... Not much later, when I read many posts here. :p

now this is some one with a brain

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The players will win finally. Because they need players to play the game and like it so much, they will pay a little every time for fun stuff... Trion don't understand this it seems. And that's a shame. The game has potential as has the whole world concept of Defiance.
Look at Lord of the Rings online. I know, its a totally different game. But I play it now for many years! Why? Because all you can buy, you can also get by playing the game hardcore. Its like working for bits in game. It takes months of playing to get it, but when you don't have the cash it's an option.

That's an totally different concept as I see at Trion. Get the feeling its more an concept of Cashing fast, and then drop the game for a new game, and repeat. Well who wants to pay for some unclear item box, and when you finally have something, it's maybe gone for good. Don't building trust with your customers that way. I hope they realize this sooner or later.... Not much later, when I read many posts here. :p

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Don't mess with the Juggalo Rydas.

WHOOP WHOOP MOX

Ride or die

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I.C.P. FOR LIFE! OMG! did this thread just brain wash me into actually liking that garbage. Wait, nope thank god :).

your an *** keep that **** off my thread this is for discussion on fixing the game getting the players to unite to get what we want out of the game company

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your an *** keep that **** off my thread this is for discussion on fixing the game getting the players to unite to get what we want out of the game company

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Wasn't it you that just started a discussion about freedom of speech? If Trion see's the one post on here you left, you won't have to worry about anybody posting. They will remove it.

yes u have the right to a opinion but my opinion here im voicing is being done in a respectful manner about the game not a persons lifestyle the only thing im demanding is change

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your an *** keep that **** off my thread

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hurrah for freedom of speech

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I know computers I have a college (bacholors) degree in it programing and development of

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You have a BA degree in computer programming and development but you misspelled bachelors and programming.

yeah and if they do that it will show how much they don't care that im not pleased with the changes made to defiance it will show they don't care about the players and just there money however if they reply excuse me mr mox I see your having some issues how can I help you calm down and get some things changed to better suit the community that will show they care

its called sticky keys some times my **** don't type correct

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ok so I have been playing since late jan early feb & I bought the ultimate edition recently but now they added Alcatraz and its not a free to play game mode I have heard the reason being is cuz trion needs more bit sales to keep the game going well my suggestion to the devs is this give the players what they want we don't want to pay to play a new game mode we want the supplu crates in the bit store to gaurentee a orange weapon if not a named if we are paying money we want exsactly what we paid for also the trade locked weeklys is bull sh*t you people at trion have you hand out but you don't have a active coustomer support phone number you want us to play this game and pay you guys money but you don't give us what we want out of the game I have seen peoples suggestions to improve the game go un answered and ignored we wan the game to be a cirtian way also get rid of the new roll system and go back to the old the new one is under powerd and straight garbage also your 24 hour reset is what is messing up ur servers and ive heard u have 3 games on the same set of servers also not good and ive heard cuz the pc player base out numbers the console player base is the reason pc gets better quality well if dev put effort to make consoles better than pc then you would see a change in that also you want us to continue to pay for stuff in your game rather than unlocking and getting it free through gameplay but I have seen continuasly that there is no plans to port over to next gen consoles that sways people away aswell you dev's at trion need my advice to fix your game I have been a gamer since commodore 64 Atari sega genesis and nentendo I am a authority on what makes a game awesome and what makes one suck so you guys can contact me ingame I play on ps3 NA server toon name : mox themyth

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You bought the game so you're not a free to play player anymore.

Welcome to the club :cool:

Punctuation is important.

besides y are all you ganging up on me im here trying to get the players opinions on specific in game issues and your criticizing instead of commenting about the contents of the post

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its called I would not sue for anyother reason than them banning to silence me that is a violation of federal law and i'll tell you a corperation will lose to the federal government everytime anyway I just want them to care about there players more than there bank accounts in retro spect im looking out for trion cuz defiance is dying and I wanna see it make it to next gen

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You're adorable!