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  • 05-11-2015, 06:27 AM
    Daily420
    Blast Rifle + Burst Mag... YES or Complete Bull-Shtak?
    Few days ago, I submitted this thread "Blast Rifle" Gun Review + Mods...

    Seems there's a confusion if "burst mags" actually increase Blast Rifles' DPS... Here's the answer:


    NOTE: Part of me kinda wished this was not the result because I could use the extra bullets on a mag lol... but this is "what it is" as of now.

    What do you think?
  • 05-11-2015, 11:38 AM
    Psyclown
    I think that the Blast rifle got a huge (and unnessecary) buff some time ago (I can't remember which patch it was) and that it was already really fine (correctly modded) at close/mid range. Now that thing can even kill you at long range, which I find quite disturbing.

    One more thing, when modded with a burst mag, the rifle shots 3 times more bullets, but your ammo pool still works like it wasn't modded with a burst mag : shoot 9 bullets, only 3 ammo are used...
    And I may be wrong on that, but shooting 3 times more bullets seems to grant 3 times more proc chance for the nano effect, it's HUGE.
    Another thing, if you mod it with a Damage Barrel, let's say the 1.05 greeny, the increase in damage output is then again : 3 times 5%, HUGE.

    I saw the pvp people who were exclusively using the PS30 slugger, quickly switching to this Blast rifle...
    The "Time To Kill" is just ridiculously short, between 0.5 and 1 seconds, (at close/mid/long range) no matter what perks/shields the opponent has. And of course, you can't really miss your target, due to the huge spray.

    So, I don't feel personnally 'butt-hurt' when I get killed by this rifle at close range, which is quite expectable (it used to work this way before) but I really find this kinda 'cheap' when it gets me at + 50m range, whereas any other AR would require a real precise aim and anticipation (and crits) to kill any one at this range.

    This reminds me of the 'surge bolter' hype, a while back ago, when every one was using that in pvp... We just had to wait 5-6 months before the devs wake up and fix the 'stupid' gun.

    Be prepared, all of you trendy Blast rifle fan, it might just get nerfed to dust in the future...

    Next episode : Disruptor gets a huge buff. People learn to mod it. More and more people starts using it. Sniping/aiming becomes useless, cause the Disruptor is more efficient/easy to use. Every one uses a Disruptor. 6 moths pass. Disruptor gets nerfed. Rince and repeat with another gun.
  • 05-11-2015, 11:47 AM
    Dixie Cougar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Psyclown View Post
    One more thing, when modded with a burst mag, the rifle shots 3 times more bullets, but your ammo pool still works like it wasn't modded with a burst mag : shoot 9 bullets, only 3 ammo are used...
    And I may be wrong on that, but shooting 3 times more bullets seems to grant 3 times more proc chance for the nano effect, it's HUGE.

    Actually it fires 3 bullets per round expended regardless of how it's modded.

    http://i.imgur.com/29tuG4Y.gif
  • 05-11-2015, 12:45 PM
    SirServed
    The fire rate gain from a burst mag depends on the natural fire rate of the weapon. Low fire rate weapons yield great results while high fire rate weapons yield close to none.
  • 05-11-2015, 01:54 PM
    WhiteStrike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SirServed View Post
    The fire rate gain from a burst mag depends on the natural fire rate of the weapon. Low fire rate weapons yield great results while high fire rate weapons yield close to none.

    This OP.However,there is no fire rate difference in the case of the Blast Rifle.Try shooting a burst blast rifle and a non-burst one,mesuring the time it takes to empty a full clip.
  • 05-11-2015, 03:19 PM
    Tex_Arcana
    Why interrupt a stream of death?
  • 05-12-2015, 12:10 AM
    WhiteStrike
    Ok,I came up with a theory as to why the mag has no effect on the Blast Rifle.As we all know,the burst mag does not affect natural 3-round burst weapons.What if the Blast Rifle is actually a auto-burst firing(pulse) weapon but with no interval between shots (thus the 3 rounds per shot) and the Fire Rate being actually the interval between bursts?
  • 05-14-2015, 11:54 AM
    Daily420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Psyclown View Post
    So, I don't feel personnally 'butt-hurt' when I get killed by this rifle at close range, which is quite expectable (it used to work this way before) but I really find this kinda 'cheap' when it gets me at + 50m range, whereas any other AR would require a real precise aim and anticipation (and crits) to kill any one at this range.

    I guess those t5 fall-off barrels work huh? Been thinking which one to put on my BR, a DMG barrel or a FALL-OFF.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Psyclown View Post
    Next episode : Disruptor gets a huge buff. People learn to mod it. More and more people starts using it. Sniping/aiming becomes useless, cause the Disruptor is more efficient/easy to use. Every one uses a Disruptor. 6 moths pass. Disruptor gets nerfed. Rince and repeat with another gun.

    We'll just have to wait for the next "flavor of the month" hehehe
  • 05-14-2015, 11:57 AM
    Daily420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dixie Cougar View Post
    Actually it fires 3 bullets per round expended regardless of how it's modded.

    If I understand correctly, you're saying that "your mag CONSUMES 3 bullets" regardless if you put a burst mag (where your gun then spits 9 bullets), right?
  • 05-14-2015, 12:00 PM
    Daily420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhiteStrike View Post
    This OP.However,there is no fire rate difference in the case of the Blast Rifle.Try shooting a burst blast rifle and a non-burst one,mesuring the time it takes to empty a full clip.

    A clanmate of mine actually tested this out, here's what he got:
    With a mag size of 58 & a burst mag, it takes around 3.5 seconds to spit out all ammo. (58x3)
    With a mag size of 58 & no mag, it takes around 4 seconds to spit out all ammo. (58x3)
    Feel free to retest though :)
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