So where's the new jack pot

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Originally Posted by Soul Binder

I agree OJ DMG would be best on a BR, just saying that having the faster reload would also be better than a crit roll that adds almost nothing to the crit mult and even less in actual usable damage.

Point is many weapons can run through their mags very quickly and the time you shave off the reload is often worth more in actual combat than a small increase in crit damage which can often be highly situational for most players.

Maybe you're super soldier gamer and always hit crit spot on all enemies but myself and I'm betting majority of others see majority of their fire going into the greater body mass of the target.

Keeping up a constant stream of fire with minimul delay for reloads will equate to a greater DPS over time.

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Eh, not really, especially if the weapon reloads fast already, tachmag smg's for example...

just wanted to say,if you actually Tried putting a Tactical scope on a br,instead of a stab sight like everyone does..
youd be surprised by just how many Crit hits you can get.
i tend to land 80% or higher as crit hits....

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Originally Posted by EvilAg3nt

just wanted to say,if you actually Tried putting a Tactical scope on a br,instead of a stab sight like everyone does..
youd be surprised by just how many Crit hits you can get.
i tend to land 80% or higher as crit hits....

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People put stab sights on BR's?

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Originally Posted by EvilAg3nt

just wanted to say,if you actually Tried putting a Tactical scope on a br,instead of a stab sight like everyone does..
youd be surprised by just how many Crit hits you can get.
i tend to land 80% or higher as crit hits....

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dude right i got some spinal tap without recoil stock and i put a scope on them it makes controllin recoil dumb easy

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Originally Posted by Jerrmy12

...you don't know much about gun meta, do you?
Oj dmg>oj crit on a blast rifle, blast rifles are meant for bodyshots, I believe, so oj crit isn't as useful.

There's a reason why oj reload guns are not worth as much as dmg.

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Im not sure you know the gun meta...

As far as raw dmg/dps numbers go, a saw is always outclassed by another weapon, so concentrating on just damage related rolls isn't gonna get you anywhere.

Having a very fast reload allows you to reload inbetween enemys to keep a constant flow of bullets, of which cant be done if you just have dmg related rolls.
Id trade .4 dmg for a 1-1.5 second reload saw anyday.

Do not underestimate the oj reload/mag rolls. It my not suit every nano/weapon or build, but have their place and certainly alot of fun when setup properly.

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Originally Posted by Claydough

Im not sure you know the gun meta...

As far as raw dmg/dps numbers go, a saw is always outclassed by another weapon, so concentrating on just damage related rolls isn't gonna get you anywhere.

Having a very fast reload allows you to reload inbetween enemys to keep a constant flow of bullets, of which cant be done if you just have dmg related rolls.
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Ok, while you use that, I'll use my ar/smg with alot more dps.
Oj reload on a saw ia meh, dmgmis better because of the already higher dmg, the blue mag rolls should have been crit or reload, or anything else, really, 174 rounds with no mods? Not necessary, so I'll put a reload mod on.
and just because it has lower dps, doesn't mean you make it lower.
ar's/smg have more bullet output, quicker reloads, better dps, higher rof, better accuracy and rof, better crit.

There's not really a point to this saw with such low crit, blast rifles are fine, as thier dmg lies in bodyshots, mostly.

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Originally Posted by Jerrmy12

There's not really a point to this saw with such low crit, blast rifles are fine, as thier dmg lies in bodyshots, mostly.

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Who crits with a saw...

My bhf saw has a 2.5 crit but it's not that useful..

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Originally Posted by Jerrmy12

Ok, while you use that, I'll use my ar/smg with alot more dps.
Oj reload on a saw ia meh, dmgmis better because of the already higher dmg, the blue mag rolls should have been crit or reload, or anything else, really, 174 rounds with no mods? Not necessary, so I'll put a reload mod on.
and just because it has lower dps, doesn't mean you make it lower.
ar's/smg have more bullet output, quicker reloads, better dps, higher rof, better accuracy and rof, better crit.

There's not really a point to this saw with such low crit, blast rifles are fine, as thier dmg lies in bodyshots, mostly.

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Exactally, so why are you building a high dmg saw when so many weapons will just out dmg it?

In my op i mention making more unique weapons. What would you rather use, a super fast reload saw that reload as quick as an smg, or a high dmg saw the has a sluggish reload that you know will always do less dmg than all of your smg's.

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Originally Posted by Jerrmy12

174 rounds with no mods?

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Look again

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Originally Posted by Claydough

Exactally, so why are you building a high dmg saw when so many weapons will just out dmg it?

In my op i mention making more unique weapons. What would you rather use, a super fast reload saw that reload as quick as an smg, or a high dmg saw the has a sluggish reload that you know will always do less dmg than all of your smg's.

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A saw with decent smg and high clip.
if I wanted to reload as fast as an smg, I'd use a dang smg, which has more dps if it had a crappy oh reload roll, the saw would have a bit smaller dps, but if it had oj reload, the dmg would be too low.
just because it has lower dps, doesn't mean you lower it even FURTHER, and it has a high clip with slow rof, oj reload isn't needed.
do you think oj reload is good on bmg's too? Or...

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Originally Posted by Smokey Black

Who crits with a saw...

My bhf saw has a 2.5 crit but it's not that useful..

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I'm talking rolls, I wouldn't put a crit barrwl on 1.
a 1.6 crit is basically a lower dps blast rifle, which focus on body shots, so this lmg isn't as good as a beelzebub, less crit, no lifesteal.