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  • 07-19-2015, 03:09 PM
    cmpowell
    please make gunslinger and 7th legion dlc rewards better
    and by better I basically mean fix or put them back to the way they were when they came out.

    Gunslinger:

    so the basic problem with the gunslinger rewards is you now have to choose which vendor box to get with your vbi rep. rep that you now, in some cases, have to pay to get due to expedition contracts. one could argue just use your vbi rep on a gunslinger crate and your tarr rep on a vbi crate. problem solved. the problem with that is now that becomes the only way to pull both boxes and what if I'm trying to get a specific faction weapon and its no vbi. now i give up mu chance at the regular vbi crate for a second chance at a TN or soleptor crate and tarr crates cost twice the rep.

    So i suggest either a) put oj gunslinger drops back in the t2 rewards boxes for gunslinger arenas or if this is not possible without effecting all t2 lock boxes b) make the t2 rewards crate from the arena the same as the t3 that is in the vendor. then it either becomes possible to grind out an oj or use your rep for a chance at gunslinger weapons or you could also go with c) give gunslinger it's own contracts and rep which we've asked for since it cam out, but seems to be a more complicated route than my previous suggestions.

    7th legion:

    So this dlc is pretty much good except for the event rewards. it has it's own faction, rep, contracts, and lock box.

    however why or when did the weapon rewards change. when the dlc first came out it was possible to get oj 7th legion weapon drops from incursions. When this was the case incursions were as overpopulated as a holiday event. wether this was because defiance hit it's stride in the game or was just because the rewards were new or worth the time i don't know. this stopped somewhere along the way and the oj drops came from the entire weapon pool. Then for some reason the oj drops became few and far between and now theres rarely more than 24 ppl at one of these unless someone invites a bunch of ppl to bath house so a member of their clan can hit round 10 for their pursuit.

    I just think that if these things were fixed, and i think a lot of your player base would agree, that you would see these dlcs purchased more and that your players would feel more rewarded for doing so.

    lock boxes, jack pots, and economy:

    I wasn't going to put this in this thread but i think it's along the same lines. players need to feel rewarded for playing the game.

    since it has become harder to get an oj drop and even harder than that to get decent rolls on a oj drop. i think event and lock box rewards need a slight buff in oj drops. I also think oj grenades should be put back in t2 lock boxes, buying a grenade for close to a million scrip is just stupid and making them more available will push them back down towards the 100k price range they used to be at.

    jackpots I understand the premium lock box makes complete sense. I understand wanting the player to feel unique by having this special weapon, but what you've actually done is more harm to the economy and its even hard to get a jack pot from the premium box also. i'm not saying I want every jack pot, but i do think i should feel like i have a chance to get every jackpot for free in game.

    for instance...I wanted a chaos, not necessarily an order, but they go together so i dropped $200 in lock boxes alone didn't get either nor did i from in game. I fact I haven't gotten a jack pot since the guardian angel and i have received every jack pot before this except for the respark regen ark, because destiny, didn't get a hellcat which was fine cause i didn't want it got an emancipator, but wasn't trying to just buying sol boxes for t4 mods and was lucky and so far I have spent $100 to try to get a liberty eagle and haven't. now don't get me wrong. i drop $300-$400 a month on defiance regardless, be it ark forge, patron pass, ect, but i think if I'm spending this much to get a weapon and don't your drop rates are a little off and when your drop rates are off it makes that weapon worth a stupid amount in game and therefore messes up the economy. jackpots should drop at a rate that isn't extreme or common but at a rate to where if I'm willing to spend $100 on a lock box that has a greater chance to give me one I should get it.

    I think you'll find by adding better balance and opportunity to oj drop rates. the players will feel more rewarded, the population will increase, more bits will be bought, and the in game economy will improve. then you can create an in game script and salvage sink and the players won't care.

    thank you for reading and I hope you will take some of my ideas into consideration and that this thread won't receive to many smart comments. good luck to me on the last one, lol
  • 07-19-2015, 03:43 PM
    Nefarious
    I would like to see a reason to play Gunslinger Arenas on Expert.

    When Gunslinger first came out I never seen so much team work and coordination with players before or after. It was really something to work together with other players to be able reach those Gold Medal scores. And doing so was very rewarding. Then Threat Levels came out but the Arenas didn't upgrade with it.

    It would be cool that if on Expert there were new titles and weapons to unlock or earn. And/Or chances to get VBI Gunslinger Weapons as Rewards for getting Gold.

    Same thing with Thorn Liro Arenas. When they came out they were only solo. And we the players waited forever to be able to go into them as Groups. But as soon as we could was as soon as we didn't need to because of Threat Levels and players could go in and do them easy solo anyway on Standard difficulty. There should be a reason to do them on Expert.

    7th Legion Incursions are not that bad as they give 5 Rep each time along with whatever you get from doing them as Contracts. So it pays off well now to be able to buy stuff from the 7th Vendor. Sieges on the other hand are old as dust and need a new incentive to do.

    Theres a lot of content in the game as is, they just need to be upgraded to catch up to the current build of how things are.
  • 07-19-2015, 04:19 PM
    Sliverbaer
    Yes. It would be nice to get gunslinger rep for actually doing gunslinger arenas.

    The only OJ 7th legion stuff I get has unity synergy....bleh.
  • 07-19-2015, 08:17 PM
    Chump Norris
    Please do something Trion..

    I like c but new rep and contracts may be to hard to implement so a and b would work just fine.
  • 07-20-2015, 05:09 AM
    PithHelmetIrath
    Quote:

    please make gunslinger and 7th legion dlc rewards better
    'Please make most in-game rewards better.'

    Fixed that for you..
  • 07-21-2015, 01:38 AM
    xXxDSMer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sliverbaer View Post
    Yes. It would be nice to get gunslinger rep for actually doing gunslinger arenas.

    (yes, I know, partial quote - because the 2nd line hasn't any bearing on my thought lol)

    THAT is how it really should be... do gunslinger arenas to get gunslinger rep. The model for it to work is already in the game too: Thorn Liro arenas.
    Then just stick another vendor next to vbi's with at least the gunslinger supply crate in it, maybe some individually purchaseable gunslinger dlc weapons (that are untradeable in same fashion as other rep vendor direct purchases)
    Add gunslinger daily&weekly contract tied to those arenas, and perhaps even have a bit of rep rewarded at the end of an arena just like Liro arenas.

    problem solved (except for annoying arse expedition objectives for topnotch and others)
  • 07-21-2015, 09:40 AM
    cmpowell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxDSMer View Post
    Then just stick another vendor next to vbi's with at least the gunslinger supply crate in it, maybe some individually purchaseable gunslinger dlc weapons (that are untradeable in same fashion as other rep vendor direct )

    The only faction weapons s that are not tradeable a swords tho
  • 07-21-2015, 06:43 PM
    Tex_Arcana
    The worst factor of all the DLC's excluding the Chimera is that you play them...then ignore them...I facerolled the Casti's (twice now) and ignore them.
    They have no items worth having. Period.
    7th Legion has been somewhat rewarding.
    Gunslinger? Worst...storyline...evar.
  • 07-21-2015, 06:56 PM
    Atticus Batman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cmpowell View Post
    The only faction weapons s that are not tradeable a swords tho

    Since when? Every weapon bought individually from the rep/faction vendors has always been untradeable. Go to, lets say top notch, and buy a single gun (NOT a catche box) and see if they are still untradeable.
  • 07-21-2015, 08:31 PM
    cmpowell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Atticus Batman View Post
    Since when? Every weapon bought individually from the rep/faction vendors has always been untradeable. Go to, lets say top notch, and buy a single gun (NOT a catche box) and see if they are still untradeable.


    Just rechecked guess it's been a while since I bought a weapon instead of a box
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