http://www.twitch.tv/chrisangus/c/2117917 is the clip. sorry about no sound I can fix it but its really not needed for the clip. This just happened a few mins ago. Enjoy the hacks already :(
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http://www.twitch.tv/chrisangus/c/2117917 is the clip. sorry about no sound I can fix it but its really not needed for the clip. This just happened a few mins ago. Enjoy the hacks already :(
Every shooter has hacks, day 1, at launch. That's what happens when you have easily accessible alpha/betas allowing one to tweak their hacks. What's important is that Trion, like any developer, make a solid effort to curb such cheating. The companies that fail to do so, usually watch their online game fade away rather quickly.
Im just happy I was able to catch him on video.
Am I the only one who didnt a see a hacker in this vid?
I also Have no idea what the OP is talking about. Where in this vid is there a hacker?
seems more like a case of the "Hey cloak makes me 100% impossible to see right" misconception
It's that Skurdy BoBill guy shooting through walls and tagging people at long range with a shotgun like it's an assault rifle.
I was alerted that he was hacking when I saw him on three or four of the racing challenges with 1st place times that are literally impossible to do without glitching or hacking.
A race that goes 4 minutes for gold cannot be beat in less than two minutes, no matter how high a level you are, and red flags should be set off when the next closest guy can't get within a minute of the 1st place.
Skurdy in the video was shooting him through the walls and ceiling of 2 different buildings for one. The other was that he supposedly killed him from a huge distance with a regular shot gun spray.
not to mention literally at one minute mark he hits me in the head with the detonator it shows the killcam and hes spraying things all over the place.
**Edit** Im actually really surprised people arent able to notice a clear hacker.. hurts my brain.
I don't see any hacks. Some of it might be lag, but the guys just aiming well with a detonator. Just so ya know, its not a replay kill cam thing, it just showing where the guy is at that second, not how he killed you. Though I do love the, " he was no where near me!" and he was right above you.... *sigh* Guess the OP is too pro, that anyone that kills him is a hacker...
To be fair though they do have to have some game knowledge or familiarity to perhaps spot some of it. Someone new to the game or to shooters may have more difficulty obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisangus
But they guy was pretty much aimbot/wall hacking from what I saw for sure.
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Originally Posted by Madcat
Seems you missed the clear view of the shots going through not one but two walls? (around 4:20-4:30).
the 4:20 very well could be lag, Its pretty common in any shooter with a " rewind " system for you to take damage after you get to cover. The later one is odd, but do you know for a fact that you are unable to shoot through that area? Like is it missing the bullet collision mesh? If its not, then he should be just killing everyone without blinking, with a sniper rifle with non-stop head shots...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanguinesun
Lots of hackers in here trying to stir up rage by saying "I don't see hacks," but we all just think you're pathetic. Kinda hilarious.
Or it could be people that have a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by icubro
For a hacker to be able to shoot through walls, would require packet manipulation. With that, they would also be able to teleport, speed hack and other things. Most games now a days protect vs this kind of hacking, and I'm pretty sure trion does, otherwise Rift would have these kind of hack too... Now, you Could argue that the guy has a aimbot, and a wallhack, which do not require messing with the game really. As they can hook in and read the ram to do their job, and that guy does have some uncainy aim.
But, there are a few moments in the video that shine some doubt on that guy having a aimbot/wallhack. In short, from that video, you can't be 100% sure it was hacks.
actually they dont. Im not sur where you think you get your information, but the video definately shows ample footage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madcat
Went back and watched it again, and yeah theres definatly something funky going on after you entered the building with the dome ceiling.. easy to miss however when you have to watch a 5 min vid to get to the "good" parts ;)
Really would suggest you send in a report instead, I doubt mods will take kindly to name&shame.
*facepalm*Quote:
Originally Posted by Madcat
The vehemency with which you're willing to defend this obvious hacking is almost hilarious... if not suspicious.
your obviously not very bright. I will give you seconds in each video, you tell me hes not hacking will ya? kk here goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madcat
1:00 - Guy hits me in head directly 2 times, goes to his view (which I call killcam im not an idiot even tho I need to explain hacks to you) you also see him firing and nothing coming out(Sure lets say this instance its just lag)
3:00 - He again hits me very very accurately and if you pay close attention to the top left hes not even visible when I first get hit then you BARELY see the tip of his head as my screen cuts it off. (Lets just say this ones skill/lag aswell)
3:50 - Gunfight with an assault rifler... OH WAIT I died to a SHOTGUN and hes across the map looking the opposite direction.. Hrm strange.. anyway lets continue. (This is where I notice during live play that he is indeed hacking prior two events didnt phase me in realtime.)
4:15 - Getting shot by an unseen shooter.. not once but twice within a second from two seperate angles.
4:22 - Directly after getting shot by two unseen shooters... I get shot through a building, turn around thinking someones chasing me and OH WAIT through the roof? Okay thats cool.
Now that I was able to hold your hand through this process, inform me when your next mealtime is ill spoon feed you then aswell. Have a nice day.
1:00 - You're right, could be lag
3:00 - Again could be lag
3:50 - Looking at that one again, it is a bit odd. That one could be the only part of the video that would say hacks.
4:15 - This one could be lag, does look a bit odd, but that can be the a problem that is caused by a lag compensation system. Happens a lot in shooters, like Cod, BF, and so on.
4:22 - This is the only truly odd one. Though Why was it only this one instance in which he shot through a wall? What was special about that area? I mean you walked right in to the building he was sitting on just after that. So why did he not shoot through that and head shot ya?
If you are going to attempt to insult me, at least try a bit harder. A 5th grader could come up with something better...
Okay... have you played on this map before? at 3:50 hes on the OTHER side of the main building. to see the difference here are two seperate seconds to look at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madcat
00:15 - This is where he shot me from. with his shotgun. notice the same exact surroundings. (another example 2:30)
3:22 - This is above where me and assault rifler were having our fight.. (NOTICE the complete different surrounds on the edge of the building)
Now with this new found knowledge PLEASE explain to me.. How he was above me OR even in range / visibility to shoot me.
/Argument
Im not trying to be disrespectful so I apologize, but this is just 100% crystal clear that hes hacking the fact someone is seriously defending it to this extent makes me question what kids are taught in schools today.
edited the original post before ya posted this one. So yes, 3:50 is odd. Its nothing thats taught. I was a admin on a server once before, So this video alone is not enough to say for 100% certain that he would be hacking. I've seen some pretty odd stuff happen in game. Plus the fact that every 12 year old screams Hacker when they die to anything. So yes, I'm skeptical of anyone that claims hacker. Though this guy does need a good looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisangus
Im still surprised you cant say without a doubt hes hacking to me. Its clear cut like im honestly incredibly incredibly surprised you still dont see it. If I added audio you would hear im not even complaining, When I notice the across the map shotgun kill I then say OH he is hacking and question If I should even make the video about it. Theres no crying at all. I win the match I killed him. I just cant see how someone cant see it especially if what you say is true about being a former administration member of some sort of server.
It does seem pretty odd, and I'm not sure what to say about it because there's really no way to resolve this on a forum. You're better off just sending a report to the support/gms then post on a forum about it. Especially as its somewhat in breach of the COC. ( you can't call out people on forums ).
If anything, the weirdest part is the one where it looks like bullets are going through the wall, if its not a gun that is capable of shooting through walls, it may be a glitch in the game itself. Which whether hacks or not, its something the support might want to look at anyway. Another note, the part against the guy with an assault rifle is likely just a case of him getting a lucky shot while the AR user was shooting you, since your health was going down fast.
The assault rifler part is the CLEAREST part of him hacking. Hes on the other side of the map.. Looking the opposite way with a SHOTGUN! like.. Ima just let this thread die and let my report to the gms do its work.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Asheki
He's looking away a few seconds after having shot you, yes. And his position means he would have shot you from near this area before turning that way and heading off to grenade a wall.. whatever that was.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisangus
Another note might be that he's probably not even the guy shooting at your through a wall, as he seems to be equipped with a shotgun and grenade launcher. Neither could he suddenly spot you through walls or cloak as he wasn't able to do it when you fell upon him and shotgunned + meleed him to death.
You clearly dont understand. hes across the map. its not possible to travel that far within the death>cam timer.. simple as that... Read the previous post showing examples of the seperate locations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asheki
*EDIT* If you also pay close attention to what kills me at that time. Its a shotgun.. and the previous part I dont know what he was doing but it looked like he was long ranging someone else with his shotgun then switched weapons while still locked on, tried to fire his grenade launcher (This during when I shotgunned + meleed him to death)
*EDITx2* Just noticed you have nearly 600 posts... Do you even play Defiance or do you just support the forums.
You're clearly mentally challenged if you think there is no hacking and just lag occurring in this video. Either that, or just a major troll.. or a hacker yourself.
He's not across the map, he's right where you killed that crouching guy earlier, which is the roof from which he likely shot you while you were being shot by the guy with the AR, roof which can be easilly accessed by the rocky formation.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisangus
I'm not saying you're wrong, neither am I saying you're right. Either way, you don't have absolute damning evidence. Why? Because you can't spec him for long periods of time to observe his behavior. Without that option, you have but a hazy recollection of what might, might not have happened exactly.
Like I said, those through the walls bullets looked pretty odd to me, you should look into bringing that to light with the game's support.
Do you think I would spend time on these forums if I didn't play the game?
You're blind. Get new eyes.
Preeeeemuch.
no skill just luck
You're blinded by maybe's.. If you think you saw a hacker, report him the proper way. If you haven't... then you saw nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vercon
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Originally Posted by Asheki
Are you mistaking him with me? if so no problem. I also have reported him the proper way. Ill get a video up to show you the differences in locations to make you understand better. I do hope you apologize for the inexperience your showing.
He was reported, Nothing wrong with posting it on the forums. The only problem I see here is idiots like you and Trollcat arguing the fact that there is complete proof in the video to this player hacking. Thanks for showing me why I stay off forums <3
Forums are great when you're tired of playing and there's no tv to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vercon
No, I'm not, btw... edited video = can never be proof for anything. I,m not showing inexperience.. Trust me, if anything its you who's showing inexperience. Because I've been called a hacker in FPS' over and over again by people on plenty of servers.. until the actual admins of said servers told them to shut up after actually spending time to look at what I was doing, or knew me.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisangus
I,m in no way being confrontational, but it seems like there's no use discussing it since you can't seem to figure out that you -might- be wrong, and willing to accept it.
As for Vercon: There is something wrong about it, its against the Code of Conduct and Terms of services of the forum.
http://www.twitch.tv/chrisangus/c/2118427
Here is said video of showing the locations of the incident. Id love for you to watch it as this one has audio and explain to me how he shot me. Thanks.
Theres no editing in either video, start>stop.
Says the guy defending a proven to be hacker "I have experience in games & have been called a hacker" You know nothing.
Dude, it's clear he was hacking, the trolls are just trying to make you try hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisangus