I'd buy that for a dollar. Great idea!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
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I'd buy that for a dollar. Great idea!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
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As far as Irisa is concerned, Nolan could just dump all the purple people eaters in the nearest star... sizzle ! :-)
Or he could really play nice and drop the Omec off on a Water World.
80% oceans, big polar freeze zones, very little land mass.
The Omec will learn to love Sushi & seaweed clothing, and never be trouble again.
Nolan keeps the ship and sleeper pods, it can be run by him & Doc Yewll.
Find Fuel and return to Earth, they found it once, so it is already in the ships Navigation computer.
Use the Pods to bring up a crew, use the ship to salvage any Terraforming tech still in orbit.
Reprogram the terraforming tech to make nice fields of grasslands, forests of fruit trees, and helpful assortments of medicinal wildflowers...
Then ZAP the bad lands and fix up the wasteland regions of Earth - a real repair job.
Of course by the time he got back to Earth, Many years have past,
maybe hundreds or thousands of years (a few months to Nolan and Doc Yewll).
They can still use the same actors, just dress them up in new alien character costumes.
Same people but new rubber faces. Job security. And a new civilization...
One based on whatever emerged from the remains of the E-Rep, Votan Collective, and Defiance...
Could be a totally new show, and still very entertaining.
To have that ship, and all that power.
Nolan would never turn his back on Earth.
I couldn't.
I'd do everything I could to help heal the planet ! :-)
http://i.imgur.com/Dnid0V8.jpg
This pic should tell you all you need to know about Defiance's production budget.
Wouldn't even do some half-assed Sensoth make-up on an extra. They just took the top-half of some sh*tty Planet of the Apes prop and tied it to a chair. Couldn't even afford to rent the legs.
If I remember right it was mentioned before they only had 2 or 3 actual sensoth costumes
Sensoths,SyFy must have found bigfoot. They really should have told us they had one.
Logical fallacy detected: goalpost-moving. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
And even with these newly moved goalposts, you're still wrong. It's been a long time since I watched Babylon 5, but I did a DS9 marathon (yes, all 7 seasons) not too many years ago and that one definitely qualifies, as does Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda... or at least its first couple of seasons.
Oh wow, you didn't even wait for me to respond before you moved the goalposts AGAIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
And you're wrong AGAIN, because DS9 and Voyager. DS9 did the two-plot episode trick as early as the first-season episode "A Man Alone" (airdate January 17, 1993), in which one plot is about Odo being framed for murder and the other is about Keiko getting a new hobby as a classroom teacher.
That is demonstrably false. The cold opening to "Self-inflicted wounds, part 1" is comparable to The Architect's speech at the end of The Matrix Reloaded; the only difference is that if you listen to The Architect's speech a few dozen times, and maybe rewatch the trilogy once or twice, you might eventually figure out what the hell he's talking about, whereas the opening to Self-Inflicted Wounds will never, ever make more sense than the ramblings of a schizophrenic hobo. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that script was written under the influence of acid or mushrooms.Quote:
Oh, and Farscape never stopped making sense.
I already knew that. I didn't mention it for the same reason you shouldn't have: it's absolutely irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
Let me clarify. The problem is not that he suffered PTSD. The problem is that he suffered PTSD after the loss of only 20-ish people under his command BUT NOT after earlier, much more traumatic events, like Yosemite and Fort Defiance. The show spent two seasons establishing Nolan as the kind of guy who had become quite callous about killing people or getting them killed, and THEN he spent the first half of season 3 trying to snap Irisa out of her funk by explaining that she didn't kill anyone. THAT is why his treatment at the end of Season 3 ruined him as a character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
Demonstrably false. I have a friend who is actually in the Army and has seen combat in Afghanistan. He explained to me that there is a huge difference between post-traumatic stress and post-traumatic stress disorder. Post-traumatic stress is an extremely normal thing, but in most people, it fades away after a few days. When it doesn't fade away, it becomes PTSD, but that's the exception, not the rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
DS9 was great storytelling. Voyager was the weakest Star Trek spin-off yet.
And as far as Nolan goes, the loss of the 20 was the straw that broke the camel's back.
The most disappointing thing I experienced was Babylon 5 airing during the same period as DS9.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wurm
While it had it's weak points, B5 was head and shoulders better show than DS9.
I still cannot make it through the entire DS9 library. It bores me to death.
Never got into B5, that was my wife's show. I was more into Lexx. I will admit however that Eva Habermann had a lot to do with my interest in that show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
Exactly. /10charQuote:
Originally Posted by Wurm
There is no evidence of any camel or any prior straws. A few episodes in the first two seasons establish that he had gotten quite callous about being responsible for the deaths of others. Remember the episode where he shot the Castithan kid, and later it turned out that the kid was armed only with a paintball gun? And even after that info is brought to light, Nolan insisted that he made the right call?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wurm
You know, I used to have a hard time understanding why star Wars fans raised such a stink about the whole "Han/Greedo shooting first" thing. Now I'm starting to get it.
Pfft. The first two seasons of B5 were boring crap. The first 2 seasons of DS9 weren't great, but they at least had Garak. Then there was that drama with the network, which forced JMS to take all the good stuff that he had planned for season 5 and cram it into season 4, so when the show ended up not being canceled after all, season 5 was left running on fumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
DS9 had as many GREAT seasons as B5 had TOTAL seasons, and B5 only had 2 great seasons. DS9 also affords you the opportunity to skip all the episodes focusing on Bajoran religion or Sisko family soap opera nonsense, whereas there's not really a way to correct for B5's structural issues.
Huh? It is Nolan we are talking about, one of the defiant few and called butcher and no man for good reason. You don't get those nicknames without losing men.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
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Nolan has more camels than Saudi Arabia...
http://defiance.wikia.com/wiki/Joshua_Nolan
First two seasons? The first season, like it is with many shows, was a little slow as it sets up the universe the characters live in. The second through fourth season of B5 were as good as any other tv I have ever seen before or since. Then season 5 was more of an epilogue than anything else. B5 at its best is some of the best TV ever written, DS9 at its best wasn't even the best Star Trek ever written.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
This is the God's truth. And even season one has some good story arc links that cannot be ignored in the greater B5 picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight
The primary reason we got robbed of more B5 is that it was airing against DS:9.
And due to the Star Trek juggernaught being what it was and is: B5 got treated as second class. Even though it was a very good alternative to the yawn-fest that was DS:9.
Eg. Remove the Sisko and Bejoran religion aspects from DS:9 and you have a show that would barely have 5 seasons itself. As well as a plotline that would castrated because Bejoran religion is a central foundation stone of all that happens in the story.
I keep checking the news feeds, and with some of my Browncoat friends in Toronto: No word yet on the future of the show; but I remain hopeful.
Thanks for the update, I was wondering, saved me a google searchQuote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
Who could forget this? She was so hot in this film.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warhorse1000
Crazy to think she's like 40 now.
And she also played an Elemental Fey in Lost Girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryu Soba JP
The Toronto cross-polination of casts is fun to follow: Zoie Palmer (the Android in Dark Matter) plays Bo's Doctor-Girlfriend on Lost Girl as well.
Exactly. And he gave no shats whatsoever about any of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wurm
Nah, the second season was just more of what we got in the first. And even seasons 3 and 4, as totally effing awesome as they are, aren't quite as awesome as the first season of Andromeda or the first two seasons of BSG.Quote:
First two seasons? The first season, like it is with many shows, was a little slow as it sets up the universe the characters live in. The second through fourth season of B5 were as good as any other tv I have ever seen before or since.
I won't deny any of THAT :)Quote:
Then season 5 was more of an epilogue than anything else. B5 at its best is some of the best TV ever written
Bollocks. Star Trek started out way too preachy and idealistic (TOS/TAS/TNG). DS9 added some much-needed dirt, blood, and political intrigue, and was the only Trek show to have a single series-long story arc. Oh, and it had GARAK, the BEST CHARACTER IN ANY TREK EVER. Voyager had some great episodes ("Year of Hell" and "Equinox" being the centerpieces), but was extremely uneven and had the only episode of any Trek series bad enough to be officially removed from canon ("Threshold"). Enterprise was quite bold in its inception; a sort of low-tech Trek in which there was no Prime Directive for the captain to waste ten minutes delivering a speech about and every technology that had been taken for granted in previous Star Treks was treated as new, cool, untested, and sometimes scary. Even the words "Star Trek" were dropped from the title for the first two seasons to emphasize how different enterprise was from its predecessors. However, the showrunners clearly had no idea what they wanted to do with their brilliant concept, and it showed in the Nielsen ratings.Quote:
DS9 at its best wasn't even the best Star Trek ever written.
Oh my god, you have NO IDEA! There's a group of actors who I frequently refer to as the "Vancouver Brat Pack" or "Canadian Brat Pack" because they keep showing up in the same TV shows together over and over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
The "Fargate" phenomenon, in which both Ben Browder and Claudia Black joined the cast of Stargate SG-1 after the cancellation of Farscape, is common knowledge.
Jake 2.0 and Battlestar Galactica have no less than FOUR actors in common: Grace Park played Boomer/Athena on BSG and Fran Yoshida on Jake 2.0; Keegan Connor Tracy played Dr. Diane Hughes on Jake 2.0 and one of Baltar's groupies in the latter seasons of BSG; Kandyse McClure played "Dee" on BSG and the girlfriend of some African prince on an episode of Jake 2.0; and the guy who played Baltar's lawyer on BSG had a prominent role in the Jake 2.0 episode "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot".
Now let's talk about Continuum, a show that is not only filmed in, but also takes place in, Vancouver. Lexa Doig has starred or co-starred in Jason X, Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda, Stargate SG-1, V, AND Continuum, arguably making her Queen of the Nerds; Lisa Ryder co-starred with her in both Jason X and Andromeda. Roger Cross stars in Dark Matter and played Travis Verta on Continuum. Jennifer Spence played Betty Robertson on Continuum and Dr. Lisa Park on Stargate Universe. Tony Amendola, like Lexa Doig, has had prominent roles on both Continuum and Stargate SG-1. Richard Harmon, AKA Julian Randol on Continuum, and Luvia Petersen, AKA Jasmine Garza on Continuum, are also The 100 alumni. Ian Tracy, who plays Jason Sadler on Continuum, has been in an episode of The X-Files and 3 episodes of The 100. Tahmoh Penikett, the wannabe mayor of Vancouver in Continuum, played Helo on Battlestar Galactica and Paul Ballard on Dollhouse. Nicholas Lea and William B. Davis, most famous for playing Alex Krycek and the Cigarette-Smoking Man on The X-Files, play Agent Gardiner and an old Eric Sadler on Continuum.
Now here's where it gets weird. I've already mentioned Keegan Connor Tracy, Tony Amendola, and Nicholas Lea. What do they have in common? They all have major roles in Once Upon a Time. And who else is on Once Upon a Time? Robert Carlyle, who plays Rumplestiltskin on that show but might be more well-known to you as Nicholas Rush from the aforementioned Stargate Universe. Stargate Atlantis seems to be another nexus around which these actors aggregate; Joe Flanigan, David Hewlett, and Jewel Staite, who play John Sheppard, Rodney McKay, and Jennifer Keller on Stargate Atlantis, have or had roles of varying degrees of importance on Tru Calling, Dark Matter, and Firefly. Tru Calling and Dollhouse both star Eliza Dushku, and Morena Baccarin had major roles on both V and Firefly. If you think I haven't mentioned The 100 and Dollhouse enough times, fear not; they share an actress, Dichen Lachman.
I'm sorry, I've gone through all of that and still haven't mentioned Defiance! Let's fix that. As it turns out, Mia Kirshner isn't the only thing that Defiance and Lost Girl have in common. She shares that distinction with Linda Hamilton, Conrad Coates, Rob Archer, and Brittany Allen.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention: Grace Park and Tricia Helfer, in addition to playing Cylons on BSG, co-starred in the cinematics for Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars. And guess what? The cinematics for Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 star Jamie Chung, who plays Mulan in Once Upon a Time.
EDIT: Firefly also shared Summer Glau with Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles, which the aforementioned Tony Amendola appeared in one episode of. Tony Amendola isn't the only actor that TSCC and Stargate SG-1 have in common; he shares that distinction with Craig Fairbrass.
My favourite is Roger Cross, who you do mention in your post. He has been in a lot of sci-fi shows, many one-off parts, but also quite a few major parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
Seriously, I have seen so many of these shows that I can now tell which ones are shot in Vancouver just from which actors are in them.
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Originally Posted by whit
Roger Cross is sexy as hell. I would watch him in anything :)
Super excited to see Claudia Black next week at NYCC, I may faint. Scratch that. I WILL faint. *squeeeee*
Anyway..still no word on Defiance S4. My hope is pretty much shattered at this point :(
I have plenty of idea. I have a a nice pod of friends who work in the Canuck film industry. Including several Browncoats ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
Best to refer to the folks your talking about as "The Canuck Brat Pack" as the filming in both Toronto and Vancouver cross-pollinates regularly.
A favourite recent development is Ksenia Solo moving into her role in Orphan Black (and reappearing in Lost Girl recently); but these are again part of the "T.O. production cross-pollination".
Though seeing Paul Amos (Vex from Lost Girl) at a local "Members only" club I frequent had me wondering what he might be involved in now.
You are of course referring to the character Romo Lampkin played by Mark Sheppard. Who also played Badger in Firefly.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
There's filming in Toronto too? I mean, aside from the Degrassi franchise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
OMG. I'm not normally into guys, but if he started buying me drinks at a bar, I can make no guarantees about how that night would end :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
Ah yes, i remember the character you're talking about. Going through his Wikipedia page, it looks like he was also on an episode of The X-Files and 3 episodes of Dollhouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
...we need to make a chart. Actors along one axis, TV shows along the other, and each cell marked to indicate guest, recurring guest, or regular, or left blank to indicate no appearance.
Defiance, Dark Matter, Killjoys, Orphan Black, and Lost Girl are the immediate list that comes to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
With some other locations for some of these shows thrown in; but the primary production/filming for all of them happens in T.O.
She is definitely on my favourite's list.Quote:
Originally Posted by irisawifi
;)
A little bird has told me some set assets are being sold.
Note that doesn't mean anything yet...
I refuse to believe that those shows aren't filmed in Vancouver, except Orphan Black, but that's only because I haven't seen it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
They are.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
Easy way to tell is the snow: Toronto gets it. Vancouver's primary precipitation is rain.
You can Imdb anytime for production locations of course...
The Canadian production industry is booming. And Toronto is as key a hub as Vancouver.
It's proximity to NY helps of course.
No no no *puts fingers in ears* I'm not listening. Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
It may just be overflow. These things happen quite often.Quote:
Originally Posted by irisawifi
Information on what the stuff might be is locked behind NDA.
Dominion cancelled
With Dominion cancelled, I think Defiance still stands a chance, although, according to the quoted news report, SyFy has a few other high priority projects (The Magician, Childhood's End, and Hunters).
True. Half the cast was killed off, so I'm sure there are extras :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
1) It doesn't snow on spaceshipsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
2) Fake snow is easy to make
It can snow on spaceships if there is a malfunction in the environmental controlsQuote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
The snow would still be easy to make
Not in the volumes that are shown in Defiance Se.3.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrisaLover
And in any case: If snow is required in a Vancouver scene...they drive up a mountain...and then the vista is a dead giveaway. As Ontario has nothing resembling the Rockies/Cascades/Central Range.
Show's over.
I'll get the lights on the way out.
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Exactly. It has been officially announced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...efiance-Series
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Originally Posted by CM Kiwibird
Yeah, that is a LOT of coconut shavings...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex_Arcana