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I know this is a subject that raises the blood pressure a bit but I think I may have a solution.
It was mentioned in the live stream that they'd looked into some fixes for it but couldn't find a working scenario.
My idea is to give Bio a heavier gravity or stickier consistency to severely hamper the Bio'd player.
Also add one or two rolls required to rid yourself of the stuff.
Any thoughts
Please be polite. :cool:
Just have to say I think this is a great idea... it would give bio a little more balance compared to other weapon types.
I don't know how good of an idea this is. It would only give the scrubs more of an incentive to spam their apexs during the pvp arenas which was what was trying to be evened out in the first place with the update. I agree that there should be a better way to combat it but I'm not sure that this would be the way to go.
I personally dont see bunny hopping as a issue any more. Its a lot harder for a bunny hopper to kill you now then it was before. Load them up with a Bio canker, then SMG them to death. Fire or Electric combined with the Bio is devastating.
The bigger issue is the blur effect. Blur is glitched right now, allowing players to get a buff to damage resist, and damage dealt. You will find a lot of this in FY.
As a player only doing pvp for the pursuits my opinion may not carry much weight but the bunny hopping seems to be the only way to avoid being shredded by opponents with far superior weaponry, the only people that really bother me doing the bunny hop are the afore mentioned 6k superior equipped players.
Having said that I refuse to bunny hop to save my bacon, at this point I am cannon fodder for the "pros"
agree with you i can bet its campers who cry about it :) besides why players cant jump to dodge instead of lame rolling ??Quote:
Originally Posted by edispilfnairb
This makes a ****load of sense. I've been playing a bunch of FY lately and I noticed the Blur-ers take waaaaaaay longer to kill and seem to be crazy strong lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by edispilfnairb
I'm guilty of bunny hoping, won't lie. 2 second cool down would really make sense, that way jumping is still mueneverable, but not as rediculous as it is now.
they need to nerf blurr too. add a longer cool down on blurr while they are it, that way the have to stay and fight and not run away . i hope the do nerf jumping so it will make really to kill more new players with my boomer. and the pros will just get more kills and the newbles will get even less kils. how can the newbies get more kills if they always dead
I haven't played since the first day but yeah the bunny hopping was bad. One player hopped using his surge bolter as shotgun. Lol. Someone was bragging about get a ton a kills until we Pointed out that they were invisible(which Still needs to addressed).
To combat the bunny hopping I used a PS corruptor then popped them with my BH pulsar. Sucked because I really only wanted to use my smg/fragger loadout.
If they do buff the effects of Bio it should also have the ability to reduce the speed of a Bio'd Blur player to the speed of a normal running character.
After all Bio is supposed to have this effect but it's just no working properly.
idk about 2 seconds. Maybe a 1 second or 0.90 of a second. Its defiantly something that could be in PTS as it is something that people have complained about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altras
But as it is now jumping works like a pogo stick. It makes no sense, even for Ego enhanced Ark Hunters. Its just funny, there's no bend at the knee or using your glutes or femor or calves, its just ankle bend jumps lol.
One thing that could help bunny hopping is to cause more severe reduced accuracy when jumping making it so its more of a trade of for defensive maneuver at the cost of offense. But that will never fully happen since things like Detonators, Rockets , and Infectors would have to be affected.
Honestly I've seen more bunny hopping in pvp now that crit shots are more important than ever. It's harder to crit a head in motion. People have figured that out. This patch hasn't slowed the hopping at all. Pre-patch you could just drop a node or blast them with bullets to take down a hopper. Now you have to work twice as hard to kill them because crits are all but out of the question. I was never really a hopper but now it's a viable defense mechanism so I just might adopt it.
They should've fixed bunny hopping before the patch. Blue shields + bmg self heal + bunny hopping = making weapons that are 35% of what they used to be next to pointless. Fixing bunny hopping now just proves that the previously considered OP guns were not the problem and that this patch was overboard IMO.
so are they gonna nerf it or what ? im ready for the next batch of quitters and crybabies :)
Cooldowns aren't the best idea since some spots require three jumps in a row to reach (Crates near Arkfall C at Freight Yard).Why not simply make one of these changes:
- Make the screen shake while jumping and firing;
- Had a Stamina bar (each jump drains 1/3 of the Stamina Bar.However,if a player jumps again as soon as he touches the ground after a previous jump,the new jump will consume 1/2 of the Stamina Bar.An empty Stamina Bar stops the player from jumping and slows his rolling motion).
just some else the to take up room on the HUDQuote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
It goes without saying that there's some good individuals in pvp who know what they're doing.
However when you add to their skills Blur bunny hoping with good weapons shields and rigs they're at a whole different level than those of us who are just doing the pursuits to hit the cap.
If Trion don't do something to rectify the situation because the recent patch hasn't those pursuit aren't going to get done.
While playing tonight there were certain individuals that earned a lot of keys and af from my deaths and yet I'm left with assist kills and only getting the Echolen daily done once these guys had stopped playing for a bit.
Another option could be tiered matches done on ability some how and I've no ideas on that one.
Hopefully my clan will get 15 in a shadow war tomorrow and I'll never have to pvp again.
I was bunny hopping before it was cool
2013 hopper titleQuote:
Originally Posted by Phenomenon
Oh so you're the trend setter :) we know who to blame now lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomenon
I just came back from a 2 months break, to see how pvp had been changed.
From my point of view, this update should have happened like 2 weeks after the DLC5 was live.
So, I played a bit of pvp since the patch, and... Well... Less RLs, infectors and BB, which is not a bad thing to me, but...
Exactly what I saw. Not complainning about it, just noticing that the move has got new followers, some very good at it and others... Not so good at it, a bit like me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrdr
It just feels odd that such an emphasis was made on how crits matter, but at the same time, it is still relatively easy to counter critter-players by bunny hoping like mad while flooding them with electro-nano so they can't aim properly anymore.
I've never been in favour of a cooldown on jumping, but I think that a debuff on accuracy could prevent some of the abuse.
That has most probably been suggested before, and this will most probably never happen :
You jump once = you suffer a 30% decrease of accuracy for the time you don't stand on the ground. Once you touch the ground, a timer kicks in, let's say 1s or 2s. If you jump again while it's on, you get to stage 2 of the debuff, a 60% decrease of accuracy while in the air. And so on, stage 3 = 90% of decreased accuracy, you won't hit anything.
Of course, the remaining problem is that it wouldn't have any effect on weapons like Rocket Launchers and grenade-launchers. So, a "Weapon Weight" stat could be added. Heavier gear would make you unable to chain jumps or to jump as high as other player with lighter weapons.
I'd like to see a weapon weight added. That would effectively neuter the try-hards clinging to their spam fired rls and dets. It would also prevent bunny-hopping with a sniper rifle as well, which is becoming a problem.
Why not just disable firing after pressing "jump"? No firing at all while in the air...far simpler than adding weapon weights and percentages of accuracy or cool down periods.
But I need those jumping sniper rifle headshots for my montage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrdr
They should legit make that haha It'd be better than my old school titleQuote:
Originally Posted by Altras
You've played me before, and vented about me haha you should know this ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bentu
The issue is the fact that you can bunny hop repeatedly.
Adding some kind of penalty to weapons while airborne isn't gonna stop people from bunny hopping without shooting. Although they aren't dealing any damage,they are stalling the fight just to piss people off,make you waste bullets and/or burn time until their teammates arrive.
Yeah your going to have to go and dig that post out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomenon
I don't believe I've vented about anyone or you've misunderstood what I said.
Generate glowing white bunny ears over the player's head every time he jumps more than once every couple seconds.
i say nerf it . it will make easier to place more bombs from a boomer on them
I bunnyhop all the time time in pvp and pve. I have never understood why people get so upset about it. Yes it makes it harder to kill, especially crit people, that's the point. Boo Hoo these people are making it harder for me to kill them.. we better nerf that.
If you pvp enough you get to know the other pvpers style. Bunny hopping blurers I try to stay back from cause man they are hard to get a hit on close up without getting dizzy; from a mid range they are easier to get a decent hit on with an ar. Good snipers; sneak up on them and blast them from close. People with high damage rebuffs and good ar's snipe them from distance. There are tactics for everything and yes sometimes you just die a lot and get mad.
Bunnyhoppers can be irritating, just like blurers, and cloakers and anyone else who kills me before I kill them. I am more annoyed my perks keep un-equipping.
Do you playing on PC?Quote:
Originally Posted by krissy
Are you using a Blast Rifle?
Are you a bunny hopper yourself?
PC, thought about playing ps3 but like the pc much better for games like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
I mostly use my chaos though I switch it up for a tachmag once in awhile.
I hop all the time, but not just in pvp in pve too. :)
This is a really stupid thread...to all the people who don't pvp much or just aren't that good at it and are whining about "bunny hopping" all I have to say is this ; you are 100x easier to kill when you don't jump and I guarantee you that if bunny hopping gets nerfed or made ineffective then you will die twice as much and twice as fast. I actually find myself side stepping and swaying left to right more often than jumping and that makes it harder to headshot me. You gonna nerf side stepping too? Then what? You gonna order Trion to make everyone stand still when they shoot or else they make your weapons unable to fire while moving period? Pvp is war and in war you adapt or you die. Plain and simple. If you can't adapt and counter someone else tactics blame yourself, not the game.
It is much easier to aim in a PC.The Chaos also makes it easy to hit bunny hoppers.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissy
If you tried using an SMG on a console,you would see why there is a problem with bunny hoppers.
I thought the point of PVP was to not get killed hence the dodge jump duck and dodge technique (a.k.a. bunny hoppin, using trees and stuff as shields or letting another guy go in pull aggro and then go after the enemy.)
Try timing your jumps to the other hoppers would be my advice.
The 5 D's of PvP are: dodge, dip, dive, duck, and dodge.
exactly but some peeps do not understand it they start cry cuz one gets away from hees bulletQuote:
Originally Posted by DeMoNofDEATH
I imagine that the best way to slow down bunny hoppers is to use a Corrupter. I don't play PvP so if I'm wrong please correct me.