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  • 02-13-2016, 03:41 AM
    Tilarta
    Is it necessary to complete all Pursuits for 6000 Ego?
    I've been working through the Pursuits as best I can, but I've come to realize that some of them are beyond my capabilities to complete:

    http://forums.defiance.com/attachmen...7&d=1455359392

    I've tried the Weapon Based challenges shown above several times and have failed each of them.
    I suspect the reason is that my lack of skill with Rocket/Grenade Launchers and Shotguns is an active handicap that can never be overcome.
    And don't say practice will improve my ability to use them, these have always been the weapons I never mastered, regardless of the mmo in question.

    Oddly, the Rampage one is one of my areas of expertise (melee combat), but I keep failing because for the first 30 seconds, there are never enough Scrappers to beat down.
    Highest Score was around 14000, 6000 short of the 20000 required for silver.

    Also, another of my gaming weaknesses is racing vehicles, which makes all the Time Trials the biggest obstacles.
    I'm level 9 in Quadbikes and I still couldn't beat the last Time Trial I attempted!
    If I still can't do it when I get to level 18, I'm going to give up.

    I'm uncertain if it is worth bothering chasing the Volge Pursuits, as the Sieges are so infrequent as to be a waste of time locating.
    I have better things to do then stand around for hours staring at a map for something that takes ages to arrive!

    So, given that I have gone as far in Pursuits as I can, I am curious as to how necessary Pursuits are to level up EGO.
    Can you get to level 6000 through normal gameplay?
    Even if that approach may take longer?
  • 02-13-2016, 03:49 AM
    warren
    if you decided to not doing pursuits your boost ego will just stop u will have to do pursuits to level up so u should do some pursuits before your boost ego get lock
  • 02-13-2016, 04:14 AM
    Bentu
    I'm not sure at the moment, I've only just hit the 6k cap and the pvp aspect of it was my nemesis. That was on xbox.
    Now on the ps3 I have a patron pass active and I have maxed all weapons and vehicle leveling and done all of the hotshot apart from the sniper saviour one.
    But I'm still getting xp and leveling up slowly with xp somehow. I'm ego 5170ish on that character.

    Now the Rampage one I can help you with.

    When you start it go and stand on top of the upside down car.
    When the scrappers come after you just pound the car.
    You'll get gold no trouble.

    Edit. What system are you on pc/ps3/xbox?
  • 02-13-2016, 05:40 AM
    Tilarta
    I did try it a couple more times, but was uncertain if I was standing on the right car, as there were a few of them:

    http://images.akamai.steamuserconten...1917E6EFF3019/
    Also, those blasted Omnivolts kept punching me off the car.

    Still no success.

    When I did this in Liro Arena, I just located the spawn point for the little ones and pounded it as they emerged.
    I couldn't find that in this area though.

    Now that I think about it, if EGO advancement is manditorily tied to Pursuits, then I'm going to hit a major roadblock in the extremely unlikely possibility I complete most of the others.
    Since I shun PvP and there is a large section of Pursuits dedicated to that, those will remain forever incomplete.

    Cerberus is roadblock number two, I tried the relevant PvE map for that vehicle, but you don't get enough time in it and often the players are so obsessed with speedrunning, I can't even climb into the turret seat before the vehicle is speeding off to it's destination.

    I really hope XP on it's own without Pursuits can get you to 6000 Ego.

    I play on the European Server as a PC Gamer.

    An an aside, I can't imagine why anyone would want to play an mmo on a console, the controller is far more limiting then a keyboard.
    And from what I heard, in Defiance, it just splits up the playerbase into exclusive sections because console gamers can't play with PC gamers.
  • 02-13-2016, 05:43 AM
    Keeper Riff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tilarta View Post
    Can you get to level 6000 through normal gameplay?

    Short answer: No. Long answer: you have some slack to choose a couple of pursuits you won't try to complete, but everything else you must complete to reach 6k. For example it's impossible to reach 6k without doing at least some pursuits in PvP. But if you complete all PvP pursuits, you can spare yourself from trying to win gold on time trials, but you will still have to earn silver on them.

    Pursuits were designed and balanced before all the EGO damage/health scaling was introduced. Once the ArkTech Revoultion was released, many hotshots and rampages became impossible to beat because of errors and imbalances of scaling in your weapon's power and mobs' health. The situation was greatly improved since then but it still lacks its original balance, so people frequently use exploits to beat them. Devs look at the statistics and see that majority of players complete them, so it's unlikely anything will be changed soon in that regard.

    On the other hand, when I leveled my third character, I thoroughly checked if it's possible to beat those rampages without exploiting and found out it is. BUT my character was already at 4k EGO that time, so you can take this as a first tip: level up your EGO by playing the game and receiving XP before you start on rampages. This will probably rectify some scaling issues. The basic rule is: if you can't kill your enemies at a rampage with one shot (or short burst with an automatic weapon), then something is definitely not right with the scaling.

    Shotgun rampages — use Assassin's Cache perk and aim for the head. That's probably the only one exploit that can be openly discussed over official forums.

    Sniper hot-shots — use sniper's perks like shadowed strike, Height Advantage, Nerves of Steel etc.

    Rocket/Detonator rampages — I don't remember any specific difficulties there, so I'm afraid I cannot help here except the general tip of trying to catch as many targets in the explosion and the scaling issues mentioned above.

    Melee Rampage — the jumping strike usually kills all weak mobs around you, and the next wave should appear immediately. If it doesn't it could be just a lag. Try porting to a friend in a different shard.

    Time Trials — level up your Runners level to 16. Remap your controls so that you can steer and boost simultaneously (on keyboard + mouse use WASD + RMB or LShift + Arrow keys, on gamepad map the boost to one of the bumpers). Learn the track. Learn to control the quad in the air (yeah, it's counter-intuitive I know) so that when you land you won't lose much speed or direction.

    Volge Siege pursuit — If I remember correctly, the Volge incursion in San Fran that leads to a Bathhouse Siege, works for a Stage 10 Siege pursuit. But I could be wrong on that. The incursion usually gathers more people so it's more likely to pass Stage 10.

    Completion of other situational pursuits like specific sieges, arkfalls and incursions can be sped up by jumping between shards to your frienda and looking what's happening on their shards.
  • 02-13-2016, 05:48 AM
    acidman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tilarta View Post

    Can you get to level 6000 through normal gameplay?

    No , at a certain point you won't get any further XP.
    You must do some pursuits

    Quote:

    I'm uncertain if it is worth bothering chasing the Volge Pursuits, as the Sieges are so infrequent as to be a waste of time locating.
    I have better things to do then stand around for hours staring at a map for something that takes ages to arrive!
    You need more friends :)
    If you do shard-hopping you'll get into a siege nearly every 10-15 min.
  • 02-13-2016, 06:13 AM
    Tilarta
    So I'm basically wasting my time even trying to get to 6k EGO?
    If I'm forced to do things I dislike to earn it, then it's not worth bothering to even attempt.

    And I did try the story route, but it never works out, I keep running into bosses whose speciality of the day is Steamrolling and Oneshots.
    The only advice I was given was get to 6k ego (the justification given was with 6k ego weapons, you can't be beaten) without playing any story, which caused me to question the wisdom of that statement and the logic capabilities of everyone who made that suggestion.

    What is a Shard?
    I am unfamiliar with that term.
  • 02-13-2016, 06:23 AM
    acidman
    there are differnt "shards" on the server - like another instance of the same map - hard to discribe :D
    if you look at your friends-list you will notice , that some friends (who are online) have a RED icon in front of the name - that means they are on a different shard. If you jump/teleport to this friend you get into his shard.
    On every shard are different arkfalls/sieges/events .....

    Even now with the actual CC-event everyone is "hopping through the shards" to find a CC-final
    But as I said , you need a lot of friends ;)
  • 02-13-2016, 06:44 AM
    Keeper Riff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tilarta View Post
    The only advice I was given was get to 6k ego (the justification given was with 6k ego weapons, you can't be beaten) without playing any story, which caused me to question the wisdom of that statement and the logic capabilities of everyone who made that suggestion.

    You don't need to go full 6k to be able to beat the storyline. 4k Should be enough. I've done the storyline of my third character when she was EGO 1.5 k or so. 6k EGO means that you've completed every aspect of the game. If that's not your way of playing then simply don't bother trying to get to the cap.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tilarta View Post
    What is a Shard?
    I am unfamiliar with that term.

    Shards are different instances of the game world. Each shard contains 100-200 players or so. If more join the game, the server opens another shard and places people there. So sometimes you can /tell your friend you're coming to Iron Demon, he/she also moves there but you don't see each other because you're on different shards. Your Friends List shows which friend is on your shard (Green √) and which one is on a different one (Red X). So what you want to do is to port to a friend who has his name marked with an X to change shard.
  • 02-13-2016, 06:58 AM
    acidman
    And if there aren't enough friends online you can jump through the shards on your own.

    Easiest way is to logout and login , most of the time you'll get on the same shard , but if you do it 2 or 3 times you'll reach a different shard.
    Other way is to join a shadowwar-game which isn't diplayed on YOUR map ! Join and leave the game again.
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