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  • 06-15-2016, 10:11 PM
    Kuroro
    This new PvP: what do you think about it?
    I´d like to know everybody´s opinions about it

    I think it is ugly.I cant believe im not killing people with a headshot using black widow or whispered death
  • 06-15-2016, 10:29 PM
    tig3r
    It's pretty ugly. Just don't like the fact that ppl messing with my game, but hey, its f2p so i can't complain.
  • 06-15-2016, 10:32 PM
    Kuroro
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tig3r View Post
    It's pretty ugly. Just don't like the fact that ppl messing with my game, but hey, its f2p so i can't complain.

    I´d just ignore pvp and keep playing expeditions instead but decoy is making me die at expeditions so...xD
    I wonder if minor arkfalls in silicon valley have not been ruined yet
  • 06-15-2016, 11:04 PM
    tig3r
    Do you have other games that you play?
  • 06-15-2016, 11:08 PM
    WhiteStrike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kuroro View Post
    I´d like to know everybody´s opinions about it

    I think it is ugly.I cant believe im not killing people with a headshot using black widow or whispered death

    You need 2 headshots now (3 with the Black Widow, I think). Semi-auto Sniper Rifles shouldn't completely outclass Bolt Action Sniper Rifles and Wolfhounds shouldn't beat Revolvers at their job.
  • 06-16-2016, 12:35 AM
    Claydough
    its rubbish,

    rise of the surge bolter

    RIP pvp
  • 06-16-2016, 01:53 AM
    WhiteStrike
    PvP is very slightly more balanced.
    Blast Rifles and Surges still dominate everything and Bolt Actions are too weak. It took me 3 freaking headshots to kill a guy today! I was using a
    Wishbone MK2.
  • 06-16-2016, 01:53 AM
    tig3r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Claydough View Post
    its rubbish,

    rise of the surge bolter

    RIP pvp

    http://i.imgur.com/KyfPSAk.gif

    *edit: why do such simple things take hours to make :I
  • 06-16-2016, 01:56 AM
    WhiteStrike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tig3r View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/KyfPSAk.gif

    Gif of the year.
  • 06-16-2016, 01:59 AM
    DEATHBRINGER210
    lol the blades are to op now. did i miss apost about blades being weak/
  • 06-16-2016, 02:01 AM
    Ghost Within
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DEATHBRINGER210 View Post
    lol the blades are to op now. did i miss apost about blades being weak/

    Ikr? Wtf did you do to swords Destromathe lol I get 1 hitted by a sword in PvP....... There is no way prior to this update.
  • 06-16-2016, 02:02 AM
    DEATHBRINGER210
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ghost Within View Post
    Ikr? Wtf did you do to swords Destromathe lol

    i mean come on .they even have stims to make them even more op
  • 06-16-2016, 02:04 AM
    Brajjaan
    Agree, new pvp is more unbalanced than it already was. In my opinion nothing was really needed besides bunny hop penalty which still works in a odd way. It's not synced right

    Summary: skilled weapons took a massive hit, while hip fire and damage based blast rifles remains the same.
  • 06-16-2016, 02:10 AM
    tig3r
    http://i.imgur.com/KyfPSAk.gif

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhiteStrike View Post
    Gif of the year.

    Huehuehuehueheuheu
  • 06-16-2016, 02:13 AM
    DEATHBRINGER210
    and nades omg . you still cant kill some1 in blur with a fricken oj frag . smh
  • 06-16-2016, 05:38 AM
    Yiazzy
    New PvP? What new PvP? It's exactly the same, players spamming Blast Rifles, and being able to kill you whilst they're not even loaded on your screen
  • 06-16-2016, 05:53 AM
    Aliasse
    The range on charge blades needs to be nerfed.

    The game is fine without having to jump shoot.

    Idk why crit was nerfed.

    Why use pistol or smg when you can use a charge blade that can 1-3 shot you + no escape.

    PISTOL ARE USELESS.

    Removing the bunny hop was already enough. The problem before this patch was that there no was variety of gunplay. Now that pistol/smg feel so much weaker, you just limited the options to br/charge blade/sniper.]

    In theory this was good but nope.
  • 06-16-2016, 06:15 AM
    DiskoSvir
    I think folks just need time to adjust to this new pvp, but my personal opinion is:

    Bunny hopping wasn't a problem at all... it actually separated good pvp-ers from bad (those that can aim and those that could not) Now when you face an enemy you'l only win if you have a better gun. That's it.

    About hp increase, I think that this was not needed since now you need almost 2 magazines to kill someone with rhino/ironclad shields (not to mention if they have def cyber rig setup).

    And about crit multiplier, I agree that it should have been lowered, but not this much.
  • 06-16-2016, 06:32 AM
    Aliasse
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DiskoSvir View Post
    I think folks just need time to adjust to this new pvp, but my personal opinion is:

    Bunny hopping wasn't a problem at all... it actually separated good pvp-ers from bad (those that can aim and those that could not) Now when you face an enemy you'l only win if you have a better gun. That's it.

    About hp increase, I think that this was not needed since now you need almost 2 magazines to kill someone with rhino/ironclad shields (not to mention if they have def cyber rig setup).

    And about crit multiplier, I agree that it should have been lowered, but not this much.


    This guy knows what's up.

    I've been playing pvp ever since i started playing defiance but your opinion is correct. Crit was nerfed to hell. Charge blades are not even fun to deal now that crit was nerf. They go close up and you can't do any damage or escape.

    PvP should be a rewarding gameplay BASED ON SKILL. Try going in competitive and dealing with 3 charge blades with blur. How is that fun to deal with when crit is nerf and not reward when aiming at the head.

    This WON'T change the fact that skilled/experience played are still going to stomp. I'm still at my average kills around 28/5 in sw. Everything still the same but ****ter with nerfed crit and charge blades.
  • 06-16-2016, 07:47 AM
    Skiller115
    This new pvp is surge bolter Paradise
  • 06-16-2016, 08:18 AM
    WhiteStrike
    Crits were nerfed way too much.
  • 06-16-2016, 08:24 AM
    Kuroro
    yeah i noticed the surge bolters.everybody is using them now with cloak on ps3 NA
  • 06-16-2016, 09:23 AM
    Moskyrath
    Buy a Longbore from one of the low egos that has one. I'm using it and if a headshot doesn't kill them right away a simple body shot after it does.
  • 06-16-2016, 09:28 AM
    THE ROCKS
    This new pvp is the age of the infectors the Boomer boys and the swords I honestly cant stand this new pvp I can't do what I used to do with my Loadouts it's just a unnecessary patch cause people cry and send in tickets and ruin the game for others I enjoyed old pvp but now it's Trash
  • 06-16-2016, 09:34 AM
    Kuroro
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by THE ROCKS View Post
    This new pvp is the age of the infectors the Boomer boys and the swords I honestly cant stand this new pvp I can't do what I used to do with my Loadouts it's just a unnecessary patch cause people cry and send in tickets and ruin the game for others I enjoyed old pvp but now it's Trash

    i tested a boomer yesterday,they added recoil to it and now bb´s sucks on pvp.blast rifles,swords,surge bolters and cankers own pvp now
  • 06-16-2016, 10:26 PM
    Jerrmy12
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kuroro View Post
    I´d like to know everybody´s opinions about it

    I think it is ugly.I cant believe im not killing people with a headshot using black widow or whispered death

    It's ****
    Blast rifles are unusable, all everybody spams is bio pool launchers and surge bolters or explosives.
  • 06-16-2016, 11:05 PM
    Lithova
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kuroro View Post
    ...blast rifles,swords,surge bolters and cankers own pvp now

    This isn't new, its always been like this until the past 6 to 8 months where people started using stupid guns and then got owned and then qq'd about it wanting thier opponents guns nerfed, so Trion decided to nerf accuracy on jump firing...but then players discovered boomers are still pretty good to use while jumping around like bunnies and the bads cried about it being too op so Trion decided to add heavy recoil to the boomers...essentially they want to make a shooter game without any jumping in PVP because too many players are too stupid to roll or take cover or aim and fire their gun....soon it'll come to a point were Trion makes it so all the guns shoot rainbows and marshmellows and sadly the bads will still qq about it saying that their opponents rainbow is brighter than theirs etc..In the end the bads just want to make pvp an place where they never die but their opponents are instantly stuck and frozen in one spot unable to move or fire back.

    But yea coulrophobia is no joke. >.>
  • 06-16-2016, 11:08 PM
    Kuroro
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lithova View Post
    ...essentially they want to make a shooter game without any jumping in PVP because too many players are too stupid to roll or take cover or aim and fire their gun....soon it'll come to a point were Trion makes it so all the guns shoot rainbows and marshmellows and sadly the bads will still qq about it saying that their opponents rainbow is brighter than theirs etc..


    best comment ever,sadly it is the truth
  • 06-16-2016, 11:58 PM
    Ghost Within
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by THE ROCKS View Post
    This new pvp is the age of the infectors the Boomer boys and the swords I honestly cant stand this new pvp I can't do what I used to do with my Loadouts it's just a unnecessary patch cause people cry and send in tickets and ruin the game for others I enjoyed old pvp but now it's Trash

    Lmao can't do what you want? You trolled everyone on Xbox na with a cloak gamma bolted or a ce shotty with a telespanner so once they broke your shields you would just heal and switch back to your shotty or some other troll way to get a kill. This is above my favorite statement you have made bout PvP and I am glad you can't troll anymore.
  • 06-17-2016, 02:09 AM
    Claydough
    wait, did somone say canker?
  • 06-17-2016, 02:13 AM
    Bentu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kuroro View Post
    I´d like to know everybody´s opinions about it

    I think it is ugly.I cant believe im not killing people with a headshot using black widow or whispered death

    I think it's just what the game needed, adds a bit of spice to the forums and makes y'all have to think instead of running around spraying and praying with your shiny BRs.
    LOL now any fool with a green Liro blade can whoop your butts, it's great.
  • 06-17-2016, 04:12 AM
    Lycan Nightshade
    Its the same pvp as always.... il adapt and deal with it.
  • 06-17-2016, 04:18 AM
    grumss
    You must be trying to get rid of us trion! ?
    I am furious! in fact so angry that i feel i should leave this to another time!-so briefly (AND i have given it time to make sure)

    Now a 1 on 1 battle has become even more of an opportunity for 3rd party snipers- gone are the days of great battles against even components.

    Aimboters/glitch exploiters (or "magicians" for us that dont like to accuse) and those with "super-weapons" are still 1-shotting (or close to it).. leaving us "normal" folk even further behind.

    Weapons that i (we) have spent a hundreds of honest hours (and real cash in some cases) on now appear to be close to useless.

    and i am sure that i can add further when in a better state of mind.

    PVP was very close to being "right" before. It could maybe of done with a damage tweak, but otherwise "FUN"
    please trion- stop listening to those that want changes because they are bored OR those that just whine because they are not doing as well as others. (especially in PVP)

    My complaining is certainly not self based, those that know me in the game recognise my assistance to others- especially new-commers (whom will suffer the most from these changes)

    BTW, I would really like to see a public list of those that have been caught cheating or taking unfair advantage of glitches ect. Making these people public (in my opinion) is the only way to minimising it. (the people doing it are normally doing it for the "look at how good i am" )
  • 06-17-2016, 07:40 AM
    Antony Harrist
    Charge snipers are worse than ever lol
  • 06-17-2016, 07:52 AM
    Logain
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Claydough View Post
    wait, did somone say canker?

    Yeah I have no idea why either. Cankers also were nerfed to dust. This change did not bring them back from the dead.

    Just BR and Charge Sniper Rifle away. Oh and make sure it's radiation because that is the only viable nano again.
  • 06-17-2016, 08:37 AM
    missmar
    so here's my experience in brief rambling bullet form
    • swords are perfect against blast rifle users. mostly the people who complain about swords are blast riflers not getting their easy kills anymore.
    • you can still evade a sword user by jumping to safety (like on a box)
    • i watched an ego 2000 absolutely dominate the infamous 2bl4ck4u pvpers, cloaking charge snipers, with a thorn liro sword though
    • charge snipers def still a pain in the ***, need a separate adjustment, maybe the same adjustment that happened to sluggers

    • a lot of my gear that used to one-shot crit-kill, wasn't..... like El Guapo and Quick Repeater..... until I added T5 crit barrels.
    • decoy is great but i think it needs a super brief period of invulnerability like 0.5s so you can use it while being shot at.... and decoy needs to start recharging on explosion.
    • all the dead ends on the way to the C-points kinda bug me, can only reach it outdoors basically.
    • grenades are wicked strong, glad you can only bring 5 a match
    • cerberus is a gat deng tank, actually have to wear my blockade ark if the cerb's occupants are good


    • over-all i really like it.
    p.s.try a crit barrel
  • 06-17-2016, 08:43 AM
    WhiteStrike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by missmar View Post
    so here's my experience in brief rambling bullet form
    • swords are perfect against blast rifle users. mostly the people who complain about swords are blast riflers not getting their easy kills anymore.
    • you can still evade a sword user by jumping to safety (like on a box)
    • i watched an ego 2000 absolutely dominate the infamous 2bl4ck4u pvpers, cloaking charge snipers, with a thorn liro sword though
    • charge snipers def still a pain in the ***, need a separate adjustment, maybe the same adjustment that happened to sluggers

    • a lot of my gear that used to one-shot crit-kill, wasn't..... like El Guapo and Quick Repeater..... until I added T5 crit barrels.
    • decoy is great but i think it needs a super brief period of invulnerability like 0.5s so you can use it while being shot at.... and decoy needs to start recharging on explosion.
    • all the dead ends on the way to the C-points kinda bug me, can only reach it outdoors basically.
    • grenades are wicked strong, glad you can only bring 5 a match
    • cerberus is a gat deng tank, actually have to wear my blockade ark if the cerb's occupants are good


    • over-all i really like it.
    p.s.try a crit barrel

    Swords are also perfect against:
    Spoiler:
    everything
  • 06-17-2016, 08:58 AM
    missmar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhiteStrike View Post
    Swords are also perfect against:
    Spoiler:
    everything

    not snipers and open fields. not my supreme El Guapo or Tornado headshots. not against my OJ nades or decoy or ablative stims.
  • 06-17-2016, 11:17 AM
    Kuroro
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by grumss View Post
    please trion- stop listening to those that want changes because they are bored OR those that just whine because they are not doing as well as others. (especially in PVP)

    the complainers of ps3 NA i see on forums dont play pvp,some of them do but they are noobs.i understand what you say and i said it before,they are a minority crying because they cant win while the majority is in game playing

    i have to say i like this new pvp,except for a few things: bolt and semi snipers not killing with a headshot,wolfhounds taking up to 3 bullets to kill doing headshots,surge bolters not balanced yet and swords killing everything on their way hahaha
  • 06-17-2016, 11:31 AM
    missmar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kuroro View Post
    i have to say i like this new pvp,except for a few things: bolt and semi snipers not killing with a headshot,wolfhounds taking up to 3 bullets to kill doing headshots,surge bolters not balanced yet and swords killing everything on their way hahaha

    i can crit-kill with a quick repeater in two shots, one shot with overcharge. doesn't even have a crit roll, just a green crit barrel. put crit barrel on your guns. an SS2 should kick ***.

    wolfhounds can one-shot with high crit. without high crit you can just overcharge. have an El Guapo that has no crit rolls but a T5 crit barrel and it does 30k-50k crits with crit perks.
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