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Smg really need a good buff since moteray update I can barely keel plp with smg.back when new pvp came out I can get 39/10 with mah smg set up but then moteray update came out smg is weak again so plz give it like a 2.0crit buff if that happen smg user can shine again
No, SMGs are in a perfect place right now. I use SMGs quite frequently and a buff like that would make them incredibly OPed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilpotatoes420
they might raise crit in PVP again so that surge bolters aren't the only thing that can easily 1HKO on headshot
I don't think it would be supper op since it the hardest wep to use beside pistol. I would be proud getting keel by an smg since with hard to aim with them
I use SMGs as my main weapon, I can say that any buff would make them OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilpotatoes420
If you cannot use a SMG then it's you that needs to get better, not SMGs.
Smg is nasty in the right hands
Maybe u shud get better so u can keel plp with ya smg again
Same here. Honestly. I really wish you were on Xbox or that I could transfer my character to ps3. I really wish there was another skilled SMG user around (no tachmag spray and prayers don't count)Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
The only smg that needs a buff is the VBI smg, both in pve and pvp because it has the same dps as a pulser but you use it like A VBI AR except a VBI with less range, mag, accuracy, and less dps. While only getting the benefit of less recoil and faster reload.
use a commando scope and a fall off .
The biggest letdown is it's accuracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiller115
I always use t5 fall offs on my vbi SMGs. However I use an assault. With practice you will be just as accurate and you won't have that annoying scope blocking your view.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEATHBRINGER210
You're not meant to hip fire it. That's the whole point of a vbi over a tachmag.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
It has bad aim accuracy. Compare it to a VBI AR.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick145
Wait what? You call .03 bloom bad aim accuracy?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
The "Bloom" is not related to accuracy directly.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick145
The Bloom shown in the card is relative, which means that it's influenced by a hidden value.
Lower bloom means that the crosshairs have less expansion than normal but they still expand with sustained fire. However, if the weapon didn't have crosshair expansion originally, then there will never be crosshair expansion, as for example in tje case of the VBI SMG and FRC Assault Carbine.
The base accuracy of a VBI Assault Rifle is superior to that of a VBI SMG by a large amount. As such, it takes quite a while before the VBI Assault Rifle's accuracy becomes inferior to that of a VBI SMG.
Is 39/10 with an smg not consider good?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
If you think it's good then you have no reason to ask for a buff, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilpotatoes420
[QUOTE=WhiteStrike;1941053]If you think it's good then you have no reason to ask for a buff, correct?[/QUOTE
Nvm bum -_-
Smg are good as they are. Just need to aim
Look I don't want to argue but over sustained fire with identical rolls the SMG is more accurate than the AR. The reticule stays tighter indicating a lower bloom meaning more of your shots stay in a tighter grouping. Which is what accuracy is. So what makes you think the SMG needs better accuracy? They're already more accurate than the AR. How much more accurate do they need to be? Maybe I was mistaken about your SMG skill level. I hope not.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
His SMG would splatter you across the wall before you know what's happened. When it comes to smgs, he knows what he's on about as it's his main weapon.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick145
I'm not trying to start a fight. He is more than capable of defending himself. They are my main weapon too. I am not calling into question his skill with an SMG as much as his understanding of game mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yiazzy
Maybe I wasn't clear in that last post and in such a case I apologize. He makes it sound as if he hip fires a vbi SMG and a vbi AR. In which case he is nowhere near as knowledgeable or as skilled as he claims as then he is just pray and spraying. When I said I hope I was wrong that's what I was referring to as there are so few skilled vbi SMG users who understand how accurate and powerful they are when properly rolled and modded however they are only accurate when you aim.
I'm starting to think that you aren't aware of the VBI AR accuracy buff that occurred some time ago.
I'll post pictures of the comparison of green unmodded VBI SGM and AR to show the difference.
Ok, here's the comparison:
As you see there are 2 things to notice:
- The VBI AR has better base accuracy;
- The VBI AR offers higher magnification.
The weapons used where the ones from the Port Bruno vendor, both unmodded.
VBI smg needs to be more accurate when aiming down the sights.
Am I the only one who can't see any cross hairs in those images?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
-_- really? You think I am not aware of a major accuracy buff on a weapon that I use daily?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteStrike
If I could get into defiance I would take some video footage for you. The SMG is by far more accurate for the exact reasons I stated above.