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  • 07-31-2016, 07:57 AM
    Wurm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    Hey All,

    A "nerf" would constitute something that was changed after it went live. In this case, we put a shield on PTS for testing, and found in that testing that it was a bit too strong comparatively. The final product that you see on live is where we intend to keep it, and if that changes we will be sure to let everyone know!

    As always, remember that PTS content is never final, and can change prior to Live release.

    What really happened is you posted a picture of it, had one of the vocal minority complain about it, and right afterwards it was indeed nerfed.

    And regardless of PTS or Live a nerf is a nerf is a nerf.
  • 07-31-2016, 09:17 AM
    Bentu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fusion View Post
    I'm so bummed about this it is just not fair you tell us about the new ion shield and show us pics of it and I saw it was gonna have a high cap so I sold my supreme darkest hour now you nerf the capacity and now I'm screwed out of my high capacity shield I can't begin to tell you how irritating this is I belive I need to talk to my cousin he is a lawyer there is some thing brutally wrong here you DEVS sure know how to make stuff a joke and fall apart fast...

    Every time you sign in you agree to thier terms and conditions and at the end of the day what do you own in Defiance, nothing.

    It's about time we all remember that when we purchase things in bits store.
  • 07-31-2016, 09:53 AM
    Tiwi
    its stats reflect the rarity of it. i upgraded mine to oj and now it has a 29k cap. it will probably have the same capacity as a supreme ga when supreme.
  • 07-31-2016, 02:43 PM
    Chump Norris
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wurm View Post
    What really happened is you posted a picture of it, had one of the vocal minority complain about it, and right afterwards it was indeed nerfed.

    And regardless of PTS or Live a nerf is a nerf is a nerf.

    Exactly right, and hopefully they rethink this and do the right thing.
  • 07-31-2016, 03:16 PM
    WhiteStrike
    Reason as to why Ion was nerfed: to be on par with the shield system.
    Let me explain:

    All shields follow a 6 point system, split among their 3 categories. There are no half points, only full points. Now, what do I mean by this? Take for example an Ironclad:

    Capacity: 3 points (30K)
    Recharge Rate: 1 point (10%)
    Recharge Delay: 2 points (6 secs)

    and a Respark:

    Capacity: 1 point (18K)
    Recharge Rate: 2 points (40%)
    Recharge Delay: 3 points (2.55 secs)

    Now, the Ion Insulator breaks the no half points rule being a special shield and all, and in it's current state it breaks a little from the 6 point system due to being a special shield but not too much:


    Ion Insulator

    Capacity: 3 points (30K)
    Recharge Rate: 0.5 points (5%)
    Recharge Delay: 3 points (2.55 secs)

    As you see, the Ion Insulator is actually balanced to the current shield system. Sadly, the system itself is in need of tuning, as it allows they existence of awful shields (looking at you Hurricane).
  • 07-31-2016, 03:24 PM
    Chump Norris
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhiteStrike View Post
    Reason as to why Ion was nerfed: to be on par with the shield system.
    Let me explain:

    All shields follow a 6 point system, split among their 3 categories. There are no half points, only full points. Now, what do I mean by this? Take for example an Ironclad:

    Capacity: 3 points (30K)
    Recharge Rate: 1 point (10%)
    Recharge Delay: 2 points (6 secs)

    and a Respark:

    Capacity: 1 point (18K)
    Recharge Rate: 2 points (40%)
    Recharge Delay: 3 points (2.55 secs)

    Now, the Ion Insulator breaks the no half points rule being a special shield and all, and in it's current state it breaks a little from the 6 point system due to being a special shield but not too much:


    Ion Insulator

    Capacity: 3 points (30K)
    Recharge Rate: 0.5 points (5%)
    Recharge Delay: 3 points (2.55 secs)

    As you see, the Ion Insulator is actually balanced to the current shield system. Sadly, the system itself is in need of tuning, as it allows they existence of awful shields (looking at you Hurricane).

    Well cap on DH and EXL IC needs to be nerfed to the standard 30k we have on the other shields then..

    Extra cap and a syn, if the Ion we would have had was OP then the DH is OP.
  • 07-31-2016, 03:34 PM
    DEATHBRINGER210
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    Well cap on DH and EXL IC needs to be nerfed to the standard 30k we have on the other shields then..

    Extra cap and a syn, if the Ion we would have had was OP then the DH is OP.

    so why do you want to have a charity event rewards nerfed? do you want the exl event to have less people to join? do you want ? do you want to nerf the money the kiddos get?
  • 07-31-2016, 03:40 PM
    Chump Norris
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DEATHBRINGER210 View Post
    so why do you want to have a charity event rewards nerfed? do you want the exl event to have less people to join? do you want ? do you want to nerf the money the kiddos get?

    Don't pretend you care about the charity..you just want your high cap shield and for no one else to have easy access to one.

    Lets look at one of your PTS posts about the Ion you wanted nerf even though you don't test..

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DEATHBRINGER210 View Post
    all yall are doing is making a shield that will make all other shields useless. its the blue pipers shields all over again. and we all know how that turned out.

    So why should we have DH out there making other shields useless? ooooo I bet its because you own one..

    You want DH to top dog don't pretend otherwise because no ones buying it..

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    PS if it really takes a shield to make you want to help a kids charity I feel bad for you as a person.
  • 07-31-2016, 03:57 PM
    WhiteStrike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    Well cap on DH and EXL IC needs to be nerfed to the standard 30k we have on the other shields then..

    Extra cap and a syn, if the Ion we would have had was OP then the DH is OP.

    Some special shields, such as the Ion, Guardian Angel and EXL shields for example, get a minor boost in the 6 point system.
    And it would have the same cap than a DH but a Nano resistance which shouldn't be the case.
  • 07-31-2016, 04:00 PM
    DEATHBRINGER210
    exl gear has its long fulfilling chase to get some gear. unlike the ion shield . why else do the exl event? . if its not to got to get money for needy kids? and to try to collect exl gear?
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