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  • 07-31-2016, 05:18 PM
    Chump Norris
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhiteStrike View Post
    The Insulator gets a shield effect.

    DH - Boosted Cap and really great Synergies (FW/WW).

    pre nerf ION - Boosted Cap and Shield Effect with nano res.

    Seems fair to me but lets try to make it more fair.

    Expo Shield - Synergy that Boosts Shield/Health cap and Damage, has shield abilities, o and nano resistance.

    ION was going to be so unfair though..

    This wasn't about the ION being OP it was about the DH staying top dog and making sure the "noobs" didn't have a shot at something with a similar cap.
  • 07-31-2016, 05:41 PM
    Mrdr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    This wasn't about the ION being OP it was about the DH staying top dog and making sure the "noobs" didn't have a shot at something with a similar cap.

    Exactly. Same for the pipers...

    Still trying to sort out the 6 point system. I get the concept but the values in the example provided seem arbitrary at best. I'm t also doesn't justify the nerf or explain how ion would've been more "OP" than other shields of similar cap values. The difference between the DH and the ion as far as capacity goes is less than 1 bullet worth of dmg.
  • 07-31-2016, 06:22 PM
    Chump Norris
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrdr View Post
    Exactly. Same for the pipers...

    Still trying to sort out the 6 point system. I get the concept but the values in the example provided seem arbitrary at best. I'm t also doesn't justify the nerf or explain how ion would've been more "OP" than other shields of similar cap values. The difference between the DH and the ion as far as capacity goes is less than 1 bullet worth of dmg.

    I didn't give the point system post much thought because the DH goes over the 30k which equal 3pnts according to the system so it's not relevant as far as I'm concerned.

    Looking back at it though things like "Recharge Rate: 1 point (10%)" and "Recharge Rate: 2 points (40%)" I don't understand how 30% more only equates to 1 extra point..
  • 07-31-2016, 06:38 PM
    Skiller115
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhiteStrike View Post
    The Insulator gets a shield effect.

    Yeah it gets the most useless affect that works only on one source of damage
  • 07-31-2016, 06:43 PM
    Chump Norris
    Just curious would DH owners have complained had they went with a nerf like this?

    http://i63.tinypic.com/1zgwyl5.jpg

    Or is it all about the cap and keeping good cap shields out of the hand of "noobs"?
  • 07-31-2016, 06:59 PM
    Bentu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiller115 View Post
    Yeah it gets the most useless affect that works only on one source of damage

    I'd hazard a guess that each new event will have one similar but just a different flavour.
  • 07-31-2016, 07:21 PM
    Tanqueray
    keep it the way it went live but change the bonus effect to be 12% less dmg while shield "not full"

    Id oj the crap out of that
  • 07-31-2016, 07:32 PM
    doctordabs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    Hey All,

    A "nerf" would constitute something that was changed after it went live. In this case, we put a shield on PTS for testing, and found in that testing that it was a bit too strong comparatively. The final product that you see on live is where we intend to keep it, and if that changes we will be sure to let everyone know!

    As always, remember that PTS content is never final, and can change prior to Live release.

    oh come ON man
    that chase was long and not fulfilling at all..... at least make it oj or give us a choice in a useless shield or a event jp of our choice..

    (speaking of... 3 events now and no jp or ojmod drops? seriously this rng is trash)
  • 07-31-2016, 07:56 PM
    Chump Norris
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by doctordabs View Post
    oh come ON man
    that chase was long and not fulfilling at all..... at least make it oj or give us a choice in a useless shield or a event jp of our choice..

    (speaking of... 3 events now and no jp or ojmod drops? seriously this rng is trash)

    Rarnok even went out of his way to show us what the upgraded versions of our shield would look like but according to Destro we should have just ignored him..

    This pursuit was a chase for vendor trash and it looks like it will remain that way :(
  • 07-31-2016, 08:05 PM
    Kuroro
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    Just curious would DH owners have complained had they went with a nerf like this?

    Or is it all about the cap and keeping good cap shields out of the hand of "noobs"?

    I have a supreme darkest hour and i never complained about that shield,I really wanted it in game with the high capacity.Just because it was suposed to be unique and worth getting it.And a bit more of capacity is not big deal,some people dont realize that some extra thousands of capacity are gone with a single shot.That shield was going to be useful and useless at the same time,the recharge time sucks,iŽd not have used it being a noob
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