Karma. What it is, how it works.

I constantly feel ripped off by Defiance. I have had the patron pass for this entire event with no jackpot. I got a couple ojs from the event, and a couple ojs from the weekly Tarr crates, but I've got the feeling that the only jackpot I see will be in someone else's hands.
I got 1 jackpot from each of the last 2 events without a patron pass, but none in this event WITH the pass. Frustrating. It feels like an empty promise. "Buy the patron pass, get a much better chance at a jackpot, etc." Blah, blah. Likely never again.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by drumnut001

I constantly feel ripped off by Defiance. I have had the patron pass for this entire event with no jackpot. I got a couple ojs from the event, and a couple ojs from the weekly Tarr crates, but I've got the feeling that the only jackpot I see will be in someone else's hands.
I got 1 jackpot from each of the last 2 events without a patron pass, but none in this event WITH the pass. Frustrating. It feels like an empty promise. "Buy the patron pass, get a much better chance at a jackpot, etc." Blah, blah. Likely never again.

---

This is why I am adamant about having a Karma meter of some sort.

At the end of the day they are selling you a pay to win product, they're saying that but buying a patron pass you are on a certainty of pulling a jp at some point the more you play.

Well there's something wrong with that when some people are pulling jps only hours in and then there's people like yourself who haven't had one halfway through week two.

In my own experience I have pulled up to about 4/5 jps during an event across 4 servers and I'm roughly on par with that.
I've got a Cosmic and Reality splitter on the xbx eu main toon which I wanted so I'm happy with that but two zz on the xbx na is off if they are both karma as I believe as you are basically buying these jps through the patron pass you are entitled (there's that word) to one of each jp dependant on how many you pull, but that would depend rightly on how much you play.

Anyway if you're going to continue to use the karma system please introduce a karma meter of some sort.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Destromathe

You are correct doctordabs, there are two separate systems for lock boxes and events. I have checked on your account, and I do see that you have currently accumulated karma that will help any future purchases. I am sorry to hear about the bad luck, but I can assure you that every lock box from here on out will have greatly increased chances to drop a jackpot. This will also roll into the next event if you wanted.

Rest assured that winning a jackpot in an event does NOT reset your lock box karma.

---

dude it doesn't bother you in the slightest that a player has to spend over 200 bucks to get a karma-based jp?

Well, that was a load of BS: The event is officially over for me. I bought the 30 day patron pass. Played EVERY day, as much as I could (I work a 40 hr a week job), looking for and going to as many of the event arkfalls I could find, and got 0 jackpot items. Not even the less than desirable sniper.
Guess who won't be getting another patron pass again.
If I could send Trion some "karma" I would, to bite them right in the *****.
Now they will probably ban me for swearing. That would be kind of hard to do since I will be taking a break from this game.
I hope you enjoy that free money you got from me for nothing.

I have used about 4k-5k BITs to NVF- and Razor boxes and I am a patron. I have done over 200+ majors and a little bit less minors. I have got only ONE jp (Cosmic Champion). I hardly even get OJ guns during this event.. And I am ALWAYS at top20 in the ranking... Explain to me how this Karma system is supposed to be working please? Obviously it's NOT for me. I play with xbox360.. MANY PEOPLE have complained about this issue too in Europe server.. Its always the same people who hoard all the JPs and OJ Mods etc... It has always been those people, and still are. I DO NOT believe there is any kind of Karma system until they introduce some kind of meter for it or something like that.. There is nothing we can see from that the system really exists.. At this point I believe that it does NOT exist, or that it exists but doesnt work, or is VERY glitchy.. We all know TRION and how they do things, and how they help or respond to their player's issues, so this issue shouldnt be a surprise to you guys.

Have patron ground it out like the old days 300+ major arkfalls 200+ minors even chased the crystals in the majors and no jp haven't pulled a jp since original solstice event. This sucks always have had patron and I've seen people play half as much as me pull 10+ jps something is stacked in this deck bc many people have no patron hardly play and pull multiple jp weapons.