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  • 01-10-2017, 12:04 PM
    Wagner DeathBlow
    Understanding the earnings system
    Good morning Devs,

    I am the leader of the largest Brazilian clan of the xbox platform and together with mr. AndyLogan, founder of the clan, we pay our compliments and admiration for this wonderful game on behalf of the Galaxy Rangers xBrazilx.

    It is known that Karma is the reward system of Patron customer activities during the events if ever reaching 100%, the player is rewarded with a Jackpot and his Karma is zeroed, as well as when he receives a boxing jackpot Your Karma is also zeroed. We also know that Trion will not provide a counter in or out of the game for such a count and this is not what we seek.

    Knowing this, I have some doubts:

    What would be the actual percentage that 1 full Arkfall represents Karma?
    Does the score on this arkfall influence this percentage? If yes, how many per 1000 points?

    I hope you can give me this information to ease my understanding process.


    Translate:

    Entendendo sobre o sistema de ganhos

    Bom dia Desenvolvedores,

    Sou líder do maior clã brasileiro da plataforma xbox e juntamente com o sr. AndyLogan, fundador do clã, prestamos nossos elogios e admiração por este jogo maravilhoso em nome dos Galaxy Rangers xBrazilx.

    Sabe-se que o Karma é o sistema de recompensa das atividades de clientes Patron durante os eventos se sempre que se atingindo 100%, o jogador é recompensado com um Jackpot e seu Karma é zerado, assim também como quando ele recebe uma jackpot de box seu Karma também é zerado. Também sabemos que a Trion não disponibilizará um contador dentro ou fora do jogo para tal contagem e não é isto que buscamos.

    Sabendo disto, resta-me algumas dúvidas:

    Qual seria a porcentagem real que 1 Arkfall completo representa ao Karma?
    O score nesse arkfall influência nesta porcentagem? Se sim, de quantos porcentos a cada 1000 pontos de score?

    Espero que possa me agraciar com estas informações para facilitar meu processo de entendimento.
  • 01-10-2017, 12:14 PM
    WhiteStrike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wagner DeathBlow View Post
    Good morning Devs,

    I am the leader of the largest Brazilian clan of the xbox platform and together with mr. AndyLogan, founder of the clan, we pay our compliments and admiration for this wonderful game on behalf of the Galaxy Rangers xBrazilx.

    It is known that Karma is the reward system of Patron customer activities during the events if ever reaching 100%, the player is rewarded with a Jackpot and his Karma is zeroed, as well as when he receives a boxing jackpot Your Karma is also zeroed. We also know that Trion will not provide a counter in or out of the game for such a count and this is not what we seek.

    Knowing this, I have some doubts:

    What would be the actual percentage that 1 full Arkfall represents Karma?
    Does the score on this arkfall influence this percentage? If yes, how many per 1000 points?

    I hope you can give me this information to ease my understanding process.


    Translate:

    Entendendo sobre o sistema de ganhos

    Bom dia Desenvolvedores,

    Sou líder do maior clã brasileiro da plataforma xbox e juntamente com o sr. AndyLogan, fundador do clã, prestamos nossos elogios e admiração por este jogo maravilhoso em nome dos Galaxy Rangers xBrazilx.

    Sabe-se que o Karma é o sistema de recompensa das atividades de clientes Patron durante os eventos se sempre que se atingindo 100%, o jogador é recompensado com um Jackpot e seu Karma é zerado, assim também como quando ele recebe uma jackpot de box seu Karma também é zerado. Também sabemos que a Trion não disponibilizará um contador dentro ou fora do jogo para tal contagem e não é isto que buscamos.

    Sabendo disto, resta-me algumas dúvidas:

    Qual seria a porcentagem real que 1 Arkfall completo representa ao Karma?
    O score nesse arkfall influência nesta porcentagem? Se sim, de quantos porcentos a cada 1000 pontos de score?

    Espero que possa me agraciar com estas informações para facilitar meu processo de entendimento.

    The Karma gained per Arkfall is unknown since the devs don't want to disclose that information.
    Points don't seem to influence the karma gained per Arkfall, only participation.
  • 01-10-2017, 12:22 PM
    Andy Logan 1337
    Well, in fact we know this...higher points will not makes able to gain a jackpot.
    Looking from another prism why Trion does not show us a kind of " Karma metter" ?
  • 01-10-2017, 12:28 PM
    mitch00uk
    i think karma should also be influenced by how many people you revive in game as well as the current system. That might encourage those who just ignore fellow players who need reviving because that's a real problem in Defiance. When a new event starts a lot of people just ignore those who need help.

    i think there Karma should be docked. As what comes around goes around
  • 01-10-2017, 12:31 PM
    Calm like a Bomb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mitch00uk View Post
    i think karma should also be influenced by how many people you revive in game as well as the current system. That might encourage those who just ignore fellow players who need reviving because that's a real problem in Defiance. When a new event starts a lot of people just ignore those who need help.

    i think there Karma should be docked. As what comes around goes around

    I like that, getting karma for revives during the event majors...if only we could see downed players so we could revive them...your not being ignored.
  • 01-10-2017, 01:19 PM
    Menetekel
    Karma is 1 point per major event arkfall completed in which you remain at the final and see the rewards screen along with Purchase Completed. Score has nothing to do with it. Also if you hit seperate major events on the same shard/phase but don't see the rewards screen for them then you don't get the Karma Credit. You have to see "Purchase Completed" In order to get the Karma point.

    See http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-anyone-tested and http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...kpotless-event for more information.

    Cheerio hope this helps.

    Menetekel PC/NA
  • 01-10-2017, 01:25 PM
    Calm like a Bomb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Menetekel View Post
    Karma is 1 point per major event arkfall completed

    No, false...get a dev to confirm what you say, otherwise stop spreading misinformation
  • 01-10-2017, 01:32 PM
    Menetekel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Calm like a Bomb View Post
    No, false...get a dev to confirm what you say, otherwise stop spreading misinformation

    Fine I'll do the leg work for you...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    Karma is not, and never has been, based on score. As long as you participate at a major arkfall, you will get karma. It increments a set amount per major arkfall completed. Separately, it also increases a set amount per lock box opened, however the two are separate karma systems, and one does not influence the other.

  • 01-10-2017, 01:40 PM
    Calm like a Bomb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Menetekel View Post
    Fine I'll do the leg work for you...

    You proved nothing except what we already know, karma increases in increments, no where did he say it increases by a full percentage point...so once again, get dev confirmation if your so positive of your 1 point per major so you won't continue to spread misinformation..and if your correct I'll apologize and you can say "I told you so".
    ...otherwise I'll have to take advice from your sig- Never argue with an idiot... they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience!" - Samuel Clemens
    LOL, couldn't help it.
  • 01-10-2017, 01:48 PM
    Bentu
    Well doing 1 mjr event arkfall is one less than the number you have to do.
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