Let's be honest, who wants the hecklers and haters gone?

You buy a game, and after a week of playing you beat this, you beat that, then you're all pissed because you reach end game within a few days....

One, you might want to go outside...get some Vitamin D.
Two, congrats, you've officially amazed even me, I thought I was gaming too much...you've shown me I'm far from a shut-in.

This game is less than a week old and already people are saying it's too short....hey fudtard, there's plenty "to do" I doubt you're "The Best" and you probably wanted something like wow...again...for the millionth time...this ain't Wow, it ain't Eve, it ain't rift...it ain't A LOT of things.

What it is, is fun, it's good looking, it's got potential...basing something off less than a week of being "alive" is so stupid you've dropped yourself into a pool of newbies with comments like "It's short" yeah? "It's not finished" or "why did I buy an unfinished game." you knew before hand it';s an mmo...it will have bugs...it's tied into a T.V show...so yeah they are gonna hold some story back....

These hecklers and haters make me laugh...just sell your game and go back to the child day care that is Wow....End Rant

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Originally Posted by Swoopster

You buy a game, and after a week of playing you beat this, you beat that, then you're all pissed because you reach end game within a few days....

One, you might want to go outside...get some Vitamin D.
Two, congrats, you've officially amazed even me, I thought I was gaming too much...you've shown me I'm far from a shut-in.

This game is less than a week old and already people are saying it's too short....hey fudtard, there's plenty "to do" I doubt you're "The Best" and you probably wanted something like wow...again...for the millionth time...this ain't Wow, it ain't Eve, it ain't rift...it ain't A LOT of things.

What it is, is fun, it's good looking, it's got potential...basing something off less than a week of being "alive" is so stupid you've dropped yourself into a pool of newbies with comments like "It's short" yeah? "It's not finished" or "why did I buy an unfinished game." you knew before hand it';s an mmo...it will have bugs...it's tied into a T.V show...so yeah they are gonna hold some story back....

These hecklers and haters make me laugh...just sell your game and go back to the child day care that is Wow....End Rant

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I would be willing to bet 90% of those complaining never did any research into the game before they bought it.

If all the haters left I'd have no threads to laugh at that would be quite boring. Joke aside who doesn't want haters gone from the forums its all the same complaints over and over again or people claiming doomsday is upon the game and months down the track they'll still be *****ing even when things are going smoothly.

Oh yeah I do... I wonder why they need to tell everybody that they like the game no more? Who cares? Just go.

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Originally Posted by Swoopster

You buy a game, and after a week of playing you beat this, you beat that, then you're all pissed because you reach end game within a few days....

One, you might want to go outside...get some Vitamin D.
Two, congrats, you've officially amazed even me, I thought I was gaming too much...you've shown me I'm far from a shut-in.

This game is less than a week old and already people are saying it's too short....hey fudtard, there's plenty "to do" I doubt you're "The Best" and you probably wanted something like wow...again...for the millionth time...this ain't Wow, it ain't Eve, it ain't rift...it ain't A LOT of things.

What it is, is fun, it's good looking, it's got potential...basing something off less than a week of being "alive" is so stupid you've dropped yourself into a pool of newbies with comments like "It's short" yeah? "It's not finished" or "why did I buy an unfinished game." you knew before hand it';s an mmo...it will have bugs...it's tied into a T.V show...so yeah they are gonna hold some story back....

These hecklers and haters make me laugh...just sell your game and go back to the child day care that is Wow....End Rant

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standing O my friend applause aplenty

Some people are having a negative experience and there's nothing wrong with them airing their views.

Sure many people upset with "Defiance" are unimpressed because they simply do not understand the game.

They went to their first Arkfall event and expected the game to shower them with a Golden Bazooka that did 5K damage.

There are 4 types of currency in the game but they only understand scrips and don't realise the advantage of Keys or Ark Tech.

If listening to complaints upsets you stop reading those threads.

This is a great game.

Some feels bad about the game or good about the game let them say their piece.

You don't have to read too far between the lines to recognise the calibre of the praise or complaint that you're reading.

After all... some people are upset it takes too long to re-supply at the ammo crates?!?!?!?!

Don't stress yourself.

It's a great game.

Az

Wholehearted agree. Every game has its vocal minority at release and honestly I'm completely sick of people trying to change everything into their vision of what a given product should be. If you are bored and don't like it, just do/play something else! How hard is that? (This does not apply to those having technical
issues obviously)

I agree ive barely even progressed into the story im like 6 missions in because im not the type of person that just blows right through the story. But no all these people that are complaining are the ones that beat the game haha. Complainers: "this game is short and lacks content" lets get real maybe if you didnt just sit there and play the story and actually went around doing other stuff and actually turned the game off for once to go outside you would find this game is actually pretty long and fun.

Lot of interesting points raised by the OP....but the manner in which it comes across is rather offensive and unnecessary... Rather hater-ish, you might say.

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I agree ive barely even progressed into the story im like 6 missions in because im not the type of person that just blows right through the story. But no all these people that are complaining are the ones that beat the game haha. Complainers: "this game is short and lacks content" lets get real maybe if you didnt just sit there and play the story and actually went around doing other stuff and actually turned the game off for once to go outside you would find this game is actually pretty long and fun.

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Console kiddies that get daddy to drop 60 bucks for a game that lasts them 20-30 hours are probably thinking the same thing right now.

I dont mind people having problems with the game, I dont mind the repetitive threads asking if they are going to add "Weapon Progression" or more quests. What I do mind is the tone people take when creating, replying and talking to each other. I realize that things get tense, and it is easy to make a snarky remark on a forum.
I too get annoyed with the multitude of repetitive questions being asked, I do not get mad at the people asking them though, and I also realize that if the person asking them is asking the question, then it is kind of an Ahole thing to do to make a joke and not answer his question.

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Lot of interesting points raised by the OP....but the manner in which it comes across is rather offensive and unnecessary... Rather hater-ish, you might say.

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nothing really interesting. The only thing worse than a troll/hater is the ****** that makes threads complaining about the trolls.

Ego rating of nearly 400 and i havent even done the first act of the game ! Dont see why people would buy a game just to burn through it and then complain its too short.. this has tons to offer now and the upcoming months with it being updated all the time with the TV show etc..

In my opinion negative feedback and criticism is more important than OP's *** kissing.

I don't mind people having a negative view, I just wish people didn't post about the same things across multiple threads over and over instead of having one thread to post in. It's impossible to keep up on topics here that I'd like to because of all the repetitive postings.

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They went to their first Arkfall event and expected the game to shower them with a Golden Bazooka that did 5K damage.

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LOL funny af

yeah many of the complaints here are ridiculous.

There is only one important one in my book and thats at least for PC they need to do something about putting in a better /global chat system, thats really killing things for a lot of people

Im not surprised about the rage. But its pretty much because of the spoiled amount of gamers out there because of all the things the games has brought. Everyone has gotten picky.

Nobody wants to play an mmo which will not atleast offer them a year of content. At the same time there must not be any set backs and people want to be rewarded by standing still and scratching their own crotch.
Also people want to play an mmo yet they dont want to play in a group. Well why is that? The answer is quite simple. people dont wanna play with you but they do wanna play in an environment where you exist since whenever they manage themselves to make some sort of progress then YOU will be there to brag to and show off to.

This is pretty much how it is and also is why people are raging and complaining so much. the people who actually wants to play an mmo for sociality and teamwork are very lacking this day today. :-(

But yes would love to get rid of the ragers. loving every moment of the game. It has its lacks but trion will get it under control. :-)

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yeah many of the complaints here are ridiculous.

There is only one important one in my book and thats at least for PC they need to do something about putting in a better /global chat system, thats really killing things for a lot of people

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The bigger issue is the VOIP. Its an always-on mic and when you mute it, you turn your text chat off. That's the number one flaw.

Sad thing about all games are there is always a hater and a whiner. All the games I like there has to be a hater that hates it and has to put his time to make a thread on how he hates the game rather just quitting and don't look back?

I hope they leave soon :)

Some idiot on here made the argument that the level progression of this game is too slow because his EGO of 383 is less than level 4 if you compare the max EGO of 5000 to level 50 of another MMO.

I think we found a real genius in this one.

i've finished the story questline of the game, purely to open up the other areas that i wouldn't be able to get to otherwise, and i did the first episode questline on day 1, because it was there and i was enjoying it. still loads of content for me to do, loads of side missions, pursuits, co-op and pvp to play, am i upset by the fact it only took a few days to finish the story, nope. they'll add more when the time is right, and new episode missions will be coming soon. so between now and then i'll be working my weapons to make sure i'm really powerful for when these arrive.

The game is great. There is plenty to do even now as long you aren't playing 12+ hours a day. Seriously people go outside a little bit. If your done with all the content you can still play in the Shadow War. As the show progresses so will the game. It's going to evolve so just chill out... it's entertainment.

Nobody has finished the game so they can all shutup. If you are going to claim you did then I expect screenshots showing all 100+ pursuits complete, 5000 EGO and full reps with all factions. If you can't show that then you haven't "finished" anything.

This game has one glaring issue, severe lack of content. You can fanboy it up and slam those that complain, calling them hecklers and haters, but it still won't mask the fact this game is an empty shell. Now I've been told several times that this game is supposed to walk hand in hand with the show, that content will only flow based off what happens in the show. We know we're getting a couple episode quests and an extension to the story questline. That's great. But that's a fraction of what this game needs content-wise to keep it from becoming boring within a couple nights play.

I beat all main,side and episode missions in 3 days.. im now running a community thread Here~ as well as continueing to grind my way up the levels :3 the game is fun.. ya its kinda tedious after youv done all the missions but hay.. im the one who did it xD

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This game has one glaring issue, severe lack of content. You can fanboy it up and slam those that complain, calling them hecklers and haters, but it still won't mask the fact this game is an empty shell. Now I've been told several times that this game is supposed to walk hand in hand with the show, that content will only flow based off what happens in the show. We know we're getting a couple episode quests and an extension to the story questline. That's great. But that's a fraction of what this game needs content-wise to keep it from becoming boring within a couple nights play.

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As far as I read we are getting a patch on the 14th to 15th april which is supposed to be 8 pages long with changes. People are also mentioning something about sea vehicles and other things supposed to come into play.

But just for you ill do the same comparison to other games that fit together with the genre even tho its not entirely the same.

Bioshock infinite. a straight story line and gameplay that will last you 10 - 12 hours on average. there is one ending and 1 new unlockable difficulty should u want to replay through the same old stuff once again. In other words no real replayability. This game has been praised to high heavens by all reviewers and u pay 50 euros for it as a general price at the moment.

Call of duty/Battlefield series.
When they came out they offered campaigns that last u on average between 6 - 8 hours of pve content. The real hype is the pvp content and the unlockables I suppose but eventually it gets just as old as any other shooter unless u actually like pvp. once again 50 euros on release.

Defiance. A main storyline which will last u about 8 - 12 hours if u go only for that. There are sidequests which will pretty much double that amount for a speed player. The story isnt the greatest but it definetely isnt bad either. There is EGO progression which is very similar to how you progress in call of duty when going into prestige. the higher ur ego the higher ur prestige or so to say (Even tho people dont look at it this way)
There are 6 doable dungeons which can be done over and over again. Theres reputations that can be farmed to unlock gear.
Collectible vehicles. Collectible suits. Also legendary weapons (which will not differ much from a normal weapon due to pvp balance. I only suspect this and dont have any proof but I would understand it nonetheless) that you can add synergy mods to and it actually takes a while to farm that legendary and the right mods to fit it to get maximum benefit. There are weapon skills and vehicle skills to raise up and perfectionise as well.

lastly I wanna say that the game is pretty much a shooter and for shooters to survive they usually rely alot on pvp and I suspect defiance is going to do the same. It all adds up to do pvp anyway with your gathered gear and items and also for me the pvp is actually quite fun and intriguing with the way they made it.

Also no monthly subscription and its a 50 euro price unless u do decide to go deluxe or buy the extra DLC.

So in comparison to many other games which has genres overlapping with this game. Even tho its not the same genre which I am also well aware off (this is an mmotps with a huge focus on the tps part. not a mmorpg in the way which people seem to want it to be) then tbh u already got your worth of content with that price and even more than you could ask for.

If you still find this game lacking then maybe this is just not the game for you. :-)

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Originally Posted by Ralifur

If you still find this game lacking then maybe this is just not the game for you. :-)

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Yes, this game is lacking when compared to other mmo titles out there, be it mmorpg, mmofps, moba.

Not sure why you are trying to compare it to a pair of multiplayer shooters COD/BF3. The multiplayer/pvp in this game is laughably bad. 3 total maps, 90% of the playerbase running one perk/power combination. Playability quickly evaporates after playing the maps a couple times. It's really a poorly implemented portion of the game that was thrown in so they could claim their co-op game had pvp.

Your comparison to Bioshock Infinite, is actually more relevant. Bioshock is meant for a couple playthroughs, then its done. This game is supposed to be mmo, but due to lack of content, has about the same lifespan as a single player game. Unfortunately, since Bioshock's 10-12 hours are far superior than twice or three times the time spent in this game, one could safely assume up until this point, Bioshock would be a far better expenditure of 60 bucks than Defiance. That can change with the addition of more content/dlc.

I'm not too worried. There's no subscription involved, I can always quit and return to check out any new content (if its worth it). I got my copy for 45 bucks, and I feel I got my moneys worth. But calling this game an mmo, or claiming its rich in content, is a flat out lie.