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  • 04-09-2013, 06:01 AM
    Facade
    Is this how the weapons are supposed to scale?
    Just curious as I've pretty much been rocking the same weapons since launch. Why is my 150lvl Green AR so much better than these 500lvl ARs?
    IE my green 150lvl (around, I don't know exact) is a FRC Carbine that does 440 damage a shot and I found a purple 500 AR inside of the store that does 50 a shot. Now granted the AR was one of those rifles that have the fire rate of an SMG but only 50 a shot?!?

    There are also many other weapons/quest rewards that I have destroyed because my current weapon that I've had for around 400 lvls completely deficates on these level 500+ weapons.
  • 04-09-2013, 06:04 AM
    Dixa
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Facade View Post
    Just curious as I've pretty much been rocking the same weapons since launch. Why is my 150lvl Green AR so much better than these 500lvl ARs?
    IE my green 150lvl (around, I don't know exact) is a FRC Carbine that does 440 damage a shot and I found a purple 500 AR inside of the store that does 50 a shot. Now granted the AR was one of those rifles that have the fire rate of an SMG but only 50 a shot?!?

    There are also many other weapons/quest rewards that I have destroyed because my current weapon that I've had for around 400 lvls completely deficates on these level 500+ weapons.

    that one that does 50 a shot also has a larger magazine

    ar's come in low damage high mag, medium damage (220 variety) with medium mag and burst (tac assault) with high damage (379 avg) but 3 round burst and smaller magazines.

    i've never come across a 440 dmg ar, only 400+ dmg lmg's. you got lucky. when you max it out dont toss it. save it for when you've capped ar skill (which is 20 btw)
  • 04-09-2013, 06:05 AM
    Facade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    that one that does 50 a shot also has a larger magazine

    ar's come in low damage high mag, medium damage (220 variety) with medium mag and burst (tac assault) with high damage (379 avg) but 3 round burst and smaller magazines.

    i've never come across a 440 dmg ar, only 400+ dmg lmg's. you got lucky. when you max it out dont toss it. save it for when you've capped ar skill (which is 20 btw)

    I already lost it due to the glitch with disappearing weapons. I was quite pissed off, it was my favorite weapon. Pretty much a sniper rifle with a scope.
  • 04-09-2013, 06:06 AM
    knightblaster
    If you're literally using the same specific gun for that long, you're gimping your weapon skill advancement. The way the game currently works is that you have to switch out your guns once you reach the xp cap for that specific gun in order to keep earning weapons XP for that weapon type. Not a reason to trade out for the specific one you mention there, but it's a reason why you need to keep switching out your guns.
  • 04-09-2013, 06:07 AM
    FailedSeppuku
    what mods do you have on your 150 AR and what would the 500 AR look like with some mods?
  • 04-09-2013, 06:07 AM
    SYN BLACK XS
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    i've never come across a 440 dmg ar, only 400+ dmg lmg's. you got lucky. when you max it out dont toss it. save it for when you've capped ar skill (which is 20 btw)

    Great to know, thank ye
  • 04-09-2013, 06:54 AM
    Facade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FailedSeppuku View Post
    what mods do you have on your 150 AR and what would the 500 AR look like with some mods?

    Before it was deleted I had:

    Sight: Aim damage
    Stock: bloom/recoil reduction
    Mag: Extended mag
    Barrel: crit barrel

    It was a Semi-auto weapon, and it was glorious.

    As for the 500 weapon, I have no clue. When I couldn't find one with damage higher than 220 it was immediately tossed in the matrix and destroyed. Good to know about the weapon level though, didn't know that.

    I'm now back to using the purple AR from the TV missions. I miss my semi auto :(
  • 04-21-2013, 07:36 PM
    TrueWildMan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by knightblaster View Post
    If you're literally using the same specific gun for that long, you're gimping your weapon skill advancement. The way the game currently works is that you have to switch out your guns once you reach the xp cap for that specific gun in order to keep earning weapons XP for that weapon type. Not a reason to trade out for the specific one you mention there, but it's a reason why you need to keep switching out your guns.

    This is a broken mechanic. Either they need to make weapon skill advance regardless, or they need to make a weapon progression more evident.

    I got a really nice LMG pretty much right after I left the tutorial, and have not found a better LMG yet. I refuse to gimp myself just so I can "progress" (which is a joke, gimping yourself isn't progression).

    The weapon progression in this game is either extremely opaque, or it's not there at all.
  • 04-21-2013, 07:52 PM
    Digital Cin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Facade View Post
    Just curious as I've pretty much been rocking the same weapons since launch. Why is my 150lvl Green AR so much better than these 500lvl ARs?
    IE my green 150lvl (around, I don't know exact) is a FRC Carbine that does 440 damage a shot and I found a purple 500 AR inside of the store that does 50 a shot. Now granted the AR was one of those rifles that have the fire rate of an SMG but only 50 a shot?!?

    There are also many other weapons/quest rewards that I have destroyed because my current weapon that I've had for around 400 lvls completely deficates on these level 500+ weapons.

    That purple AR that does 50 damage (Its one of the Blaster rifles.. can't remember if its the VOT or the Votan off hand), may not seem very good at first glance but with its high rate of fire its one of the upper end DPS weapons in the game.
    People forget to factor in the RoF when looking at weapons, with the right mods and high weapon skill those blaster rifles become monster weapons in the right hands.
  • 04-21-2013, 07:55 PM
    Ensu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    that one that does 50 a shot also has a larger magazine

    ar's come in low damage high mag, medium damage (220 variety) with medium mag and burst (tac assault) with high damage (379 avg) but 3 round burst and smaller magazines.

    i've never come across a 440 dmg ar, only 400+ dmg lmg's. you got lucky. when you max it out dont toss it. save it for when you've capped ar skill (which is 20 btw)

    It's the FRC Heavy Assault Carbine. Semi-Automatic Assault Rifle with a scope as standard. 20 round magazine.

    The VOT/Votan Blast Rifle (40 per shot) is actually 40x3 per shot. It's a very good hipfire weapon.
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