Weapon Skill Leveling System Seriously Needs Changed!

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Originally Posted by Archellion

EGO perks are the only reason to advance your EGO. A weapon's EGO rating is irrelevant.

I made this suggestion to improve the weapon leveling.

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Your wrong you get more synergies/increased on weapon buffs at higher ego rating by the time your ego 5k if your still using a non 5k ego gun your gimping yourself pretty badly. So please keep thinking perks is the only reason to increase your ego rating when everything including your loot drops is tied to it there prolly gonna be some crazy weps near 5k ego XD

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Originally Posted by g1mps0r

The stupid weapon xp system in this game is the reason why you are literally pushed to use exploits
like sniper challenge lvling(bolt action) or the instant respawn raider hulk(sawed off/bolt action/infectors).

If you're really lvling those weapons in the way it is intended you would need at least 1 week non stop grinding for bolt actions to max and hell... like 4 weeks with sawed offs/infectors.

It's just a joke how you can push lmgs/ars to 20 in like one day but the slow firering/reload weapons take like a life to max. ( even if you're constantly hitting weak spots)

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Lol if you need to exploit a respawning mob I find that laughable why cant you just play the game normally why do you have to exploit bugs and glitches like farming keycodes or the respawning hulker your just gimping the longevity of the game for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Lonestar1771

So you came to a forum and posted a rant and then tell people not to respond unless they agree with you? Cool story, bro.

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This is the first thing I thought of when I unfortunately read this post. Fail OP.

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Originally Posted by Fiox

Lol if you need to exploit a respawning mob I find that laughable why cant you just play the game normally why do you have to exploit bugs and glitches like farming keycodes or the respawning hulker your just gimping the longevity of the game for yourself.

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Because it sucks hard to switch your good/perfectly moded/stat wise weapon which you can be sure you would never find an replaceable piece only because you can't gain any further boni with it? ;> This is just stupid... If the weapon I find is not better than it's predecessor, why the hell would I use it in ANY other game?

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Originally Posted by g1mps0r

Because it sucks hard to switch your good/perfectly moded/stat wise weapon which you can be sure you would never find an replaceable piece only because you can't gain any further boni with it? ;> This is just stupid... If the weapon I find is not better than it's predecessor, why the hell would I use it in ANY other game?

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Because your a master of all weapon types is why you cant want to be a master ar user and only use an ak47 saying im a master of all ars someone tosses an m16 at you your like how the fk does this work then you get laughed at. Thats the reason it is the way it is with proficienies and xp sry you don't like it but there was talks of them making it so you could reset the xp bar on weapons for the buff so maybe they'll do that to appease all you guys who think its such a horrible design even though it isn't.

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Originally Posted by Xenomorph

How can you buy duplicate weapon with script? I woul like to know that please.

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Special offers you can buy only once, but normal items as many as your inventory will hold. Most weapon types are sold at specific vendors, the one at top notch tool shop for example has a bolt action sniper with 3.5x crit in its normal stock, the one east of Demon Ranch a SAW lmg, aso. Just gotta find the vendor that sells your prefered weapon type.

It's certainly possible to work with or around the system as it is in game now, it still is really annoying though.

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Originally Posted by g1mps0r

The stupid weapon xp system in this game is the reason why you are literally pushed to use exploits
like sniper challenge lvling(bolt action) or the instant respawn raider hulk(sawed off/bolt action/infectors).

If you're really lvling those weapons in the way it is intended you would need at least 1 week non stop grinding for bolt actions to max and hell... like 4 weeks with sawed offs/infectors.

It's just a joke how you can push lmgs/ars to 20 in like one day but the slow firering/reload weapons take like a life to max. ( even if you're constantly hitting weak spots)

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What blows my mind is that the system seems to go against EVERYTHING this game is based around!

Loadouts to make other builds based around different guns and perks! JK you need to level your weapon skill fool!

Collecting unique guns. People might say they like 3 round burst ARs so once you find one why bother switching it? Just because you found a gun in the style you like that doesn't mean that you're going to find the best one for your play style right away. Different elemental effects, bonuses (mag size, accuracy +, melee dmg +), and synergies will keep you trying new things. Oh I'm sorry did you just find a gun you love? Everything on it just just what you were looking for!? Enjoy it for the next hour or so and then enjoy replacing it with the vendor model.

Adding slots and high level mods to your favorite gun to get it performing just the way you like it! Well thats good! One day way down the road you might be able to use it again!

We have a ton of different types of weapons! You like that Detonator? Thats good! Too bad you've haven't been leveling your skill with it. Just spend the next 2 weeks grinding detonator kills with ones you don't really like and then you can use it!

I guess my question is why put something into the game that so clearly takes away from it and is in no way fun...I mean I hear how people think its 'okay' and how people are or should just 'deal with it', 'its no big deal'. This is a video game. Things in avideo game should be fun, if something is taxing or annoying it should be because of a challenge, not because of silly and pointless inconveniences.

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Originally Posted by Fiox

Because your a master of all weapon types is why you cant want to be a master ar user and only use an ak47 saying im a master of all ars someone tosses an m16 at you your like how the fk does this work then you get laughed at. Thats the reason it is the way it is with proficienies and xp sry you don't like it but there was talks of them making it so you could reset the xp bar on weapons for the buff so maybe they'll do that to appease all you guys who think its such a horrible design even though it isn't.

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If I am a master of all weapons I wouldn't use like 80% of the weapon types of a line ingame anyway... because they just suck compared to the others. ;> Every line has one type of weapon which is clearly absolute to the others... so this makes your argument a bit... let me say abstruse. ;>

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Originally Posted by Fiox

Because your a master of all weapon types is why you cant want to be a master ar user and only use an ak47 saying im a master of all ars someone tosses an m16 at you your like how the fk does this work then you get laughed at. Thats the reason it is the way it is with proficienies and xp sry you don't like it but there was talks of them making it so you could reset the xp bar on weapons for the buff so maybe they'll do that to appease all you guys who think its such a horrible design even though it isn't.

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Yeah, too bad thats a dumb argument all around because that's not what happens for most players. You level up 10% of the way by trying new guns and 90% of the way using the same vendor gun over and over and over and just tossing it for a new one when you max it out.

Oh and IRL your argument is dumb too. As someone who owns 1 AR and has shot a few others I can tell you that once you've shot one you have enough of an idea to handle another effectively. It's not like you pick up a AR-15 after using a ak-47 and look at it confused. "What does this do? Where is trigger? Is this using bullets? Am I holding this backwards?" No, just...just no.

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Originally Posted by Gero

What blows my mind is that the system seems to go against EVERYTHING this game is based around!

Loadouts to make other builds based around different guns and perks! JK you need to level your weapon skill fool!

Collecting unique guns. People might say they like 3 round burst ARs so once you find one why bother switching it? Just because you found a gun in the style you like that doesn't mean that you're going to find the best one for your play style right away. Different elemental effects, bonuses (mag size, accuracy +, melee dmg +), and synergies will keep you trying new things. Oh I'm sorry did you just find a gun you love? Everything on it just just what you were looking for!? Enjoy it for the next hour or so and then enjoy replacing it with the vendor model.

Adding slots and high level mods to your favorite gun to get it performing just the way you like it! Well thats good! One day way down the road you might be able to use it again!

We have a ton of different types of weapons! You like that Detonator? Thats good! Too bad you've haven't been leveling your skill with it. Just spend the next 2 weeks grinding detonator kills with ones you don't really like and then you can use it!

I guess my question is why put something into the game that so clearly takes away from it and is in no way fun...I mean I hear how people think its 'okay' and how people are or should just 'deal with it', 'its no big deal'. This is a video game. Things in avideo game should be fun, if something is taxing or annoying it should be because of a challenge, not because of silly and pointless inconveniences.

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+1 thanks that's excactly my kind of experience atm. :) Like I said on german in another thread the whole system trion forged there is like they shooting in their own leg. Every thing that makes sense is immediately countered by some game mechanic that makes no sense at all.