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  • 12-11-2017, 11:06 AM
    6ft lower
    Defiance is in Development for Current Generation Hardware
    https://www.dualshockers.com/defianc...orlds-planned/
  • 12-11-2017, 11:06 AM
    Calm like a Bomb
    What we've been waiting for
    Enjoy the read.

    https://www.dualshockers.com/defianc...orlds-planned/
  • 12-11-2017, 11:09 AM
    6ft lower
    you just cut and pasted that of my thread lol
  • 12-11-2017, 11:10 AM
    Calm like a Bomb
    Haha...nope...apparently we posted at the same time...you know what they say...great minds...;)
  • 12-11-2017, 11:17 AM
    Johnny Stranger
    Awesome... just hope we can move our toons
  • 12-11-2017, 11:44 AM
    Calm like a Bomb
    Know what would have been really awesome....if the devs were the ones that would have informed us of this pretty substantial news!
  • 12-11-2017, 11:48 AM
    Johnny Stranger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Calm like a Bomb View Post
    Know what would have been really awesome....if the devs were the ones that would have informed us of this pretty substantial news!

    Yea it’s kind of funny they did an interview before telling us ... no biggie though ... ty 4 the scoop
    I wonder if dual shocks jumped the gun on releasing the interview
  • 12-11-2017, 11:52 AM
    Hale
    That article talked about PlayStation 4 development. Hope they're working just as hard on Xbox one as well.
  • 12-11-2017, 12:05 PM
    Calm like a Bomb
    It's ps4 exclusive...haha...jk...who knows, you'd think they'd be working on an xbox version as well but until a dev can confirm this you're just gonna have to sit back, wait and keep your fingers crossed.
  • 12-11-2017, 12:19 PM
    6ft lower
    They got on to put our threads together but say nothing about the cerberus bundle. They got our money whats left to be said about it
  • 12-11-2017, 01:33 PM
    Johnny Stranger
    I guess that’s confirmation
  • 12-11-2017, 04:03 PM
    Bentu
    This does indeed sound good and would be greeted favourably by many vet players who had moved on to next gen but I wouldn't hold your breath regarding your toons content being moved over.
    They'd be shooting themselves in the foot from the get go if they did that.
    Just think of all those bundles and crates they can sell again on next gen consoles.

    Edit. With that in mind will people stop buying bits on ps3 and 360 consoles now just in case you can't transfer your gear over.
  • 12-11-2017, 04:21 PM
    richardkrainium
    heres the part im not buying ...Trion Worlds appreciates their current players, which they say is 120k monthly active users across all platforms, ....120k active monthly roflmao
  • 12-11-2017, 04:27 PM
    Bentu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richardkrainium View Post
    heres the part im not buying ...Trion Worlds appreciates their current players, which they say is 120k monthly active users across all platforms, ....120k active monthly roflmao

    If you take 6 servers into account it could be.
  • 12-11-2017, 04:28 PM
    Mr B
    This is awesome news.
    IF we can transfer our toons.
    If not, just a big letdown, and byebye Defiance for me.
    No way i'm starting over after 4 years on xbox, just NO WAY.

    Edit: "Trion Worlds appreciates their current players, which they say is 120k monthly active users across all platforms, and they want to improve the game for them as well as bring it to a new generation of players"

    So we can transfer our toons, right? right?

    "In our meeting, the team at Trion Worlds was extremely transparent about where they were in the game’s development and how much community feedback meant to them."

    PR 101

    I want to believe. (hidden sarcastic tone)
  • 12-11-2017, 05:02 PM
    Bentu
    There's going to be lots of questions and another one I have will the old gen consoles still be supported when the new ones go live or will they shut down for good.
  • 12-11-2017, 05:04 PM
    Chris Robet
    Well then I log into the forums for the first time in years and am greeted with this news! I'd love to use my old grindfragger again and fail at every volge warmaster! I gave my sister my old PS3 when she went off to college so I'm happy to be able to play again! Anyways hello to anyone that remembers me.
  • 12-11-2017, 06:19 PM
    Bloodbath82
    We KNOW they won't transfer toons. They won't do it from Xbox to PC or PS3 they definitely won't do it here for old to next gen. As was already said it would kill the new profit to be made. If you read carefully it's not going to be the same game everything's going to be revamped or tweaked. So we will all be newbs again lol. This is probably where we will see the skill tree that they talked about in the previous posted interview. I'd like to see them be super smart and sell transfer items for bits AFTER offering a free transfer period. But ehh it's trion who really knows what rabbit hole they are thinking through.
  • 12-11-2017, 08:12 PM
    Thunder Gun Express
    Please for the love of everything let it be true!!! I havent got nextgen system yet but if this happens im all in for one so so so happy at the thought of this :)
  • 12-11-2017, 08:26 PM
    Cygnus
    Funny, they said they would let us know here first. Lol. Congrats playstation!! Hope Xbox one is next. Maybe cross platform play?? So we can meet our forums friends too....
  • 12-12-2017, 12:10 AM
    Valani
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    Funny, they said they would let us know here first. Lol. Congrats playstation!! Hope Xbox one is next. Maybe cross platform play?? So we can meet our forums friends too....

    Let's hope that their 'Customer Service' agents get an upgrade as well.
  • 12-12-2017, 12:48 AM
    Cygnus
    Put this in the wrong thread earlier so I moved it here.
    Quote:

    In the article they reference player input but I don't recall them soliciating us on the forums for any of the things mentioned. As far as the forumites, my impression is a majority of them feel ignored or that they aren't being listened too, at least that has been a majority of the recent thread titles. But they have stated in the past that forumites are a minority of the player base. Are they emailing players or sending out direct mailing surveys? Any one here get polled? Who are these players they refer to? Just curious...
  • 12-12-2017, 01:44 AM
    Arran
    Awesum news... if our characters and inventory are moved over anyway.
  • 12-12-2017, 04:29 AM
    Antony Harrist
    If they do it for PS4 it shouldn't be too hard to do it for Xbox aswell. They are basically pc's now anyway

    If they bring it to next gen, and ditch support for old gen consoles it will be better for everyone actually. Would be almost same build for xbox/PS4 and pc, and would not be hindered by old architecture

    I bet they could make the graphics/performance a whole lot better if they ditched support for the old consoles

    Everyone would get a free transfer to current gen and pc of course
  • 12-12-2017, 06:07 AM
    r1p
    Everything right now is just supposition since Trion is keeping everything close to their vest. However if there is one thing that you can count on is that accounts WILL NOT be transferred to any new version of the game because it makes no sense financially to do it. Porting over people's accounts/inventories not only gives them less incentive to spend money it also alienates new customers who show up at launch and find themselves at an immediate disadvantage. The most that I would expect would be an exclusive title for people who make the jump and possibly an extra 10% off of at the bit store during the first week of the launch. Obviously I hope that I'm wrong but even if Trion somehow manages to fix this mess so it can be ported to next-gen be prepared to start over from scratch.
  • 12-12-2017, 06:15 AM
    konstantinov
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by r1p View Post
    Everything right now is just supposition since Trion is keeping everything close to their vest. However if there is one thing that you can count on is that accounts WILL NOT be transferred to any new version of the game because it makes no sense financially to do it. Porting over people's accounts/inventories not only gives them less incentive to spend money it also alienates new customers who show up at launch and find themselves at an immediate disadvantage. The most that I would expect would be an exclusive title for people who make the jump and possibly an extra 10% off of at the bit store during the first week of the launch. Obviously I hope that I'm wrong but even if Trion somehow manages to fix this mess so it can be ported to next-gen be prepared to start over from scratch.

    Please remember (and I realize the nature and differences) that Blizzard did allow people to port over their diablo 3 and diablo 3:RoS accounts from x360/ps3 to next gen and even had it setup to do x360 -> ps4 and ps3 -> xbone. We may luck out and they've already shown that it is possible to capture toons and transfer them over (even if it was jenky at times) to pts. I'd like to stay as optimistic about this as possible.
  • 12-12-2017, 07:52 AM
    Calm like a Bomb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 6ft lower View Post
    They got on to put our threads together but say nothing about the cerberus bundle. They got our money whats left to be said about it

    You are confusing the forum moderators for developers.
  • 12-12-2017, 09:18 AM
    Antony Harrist
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by r1p View Post
    Everything right now is just supposition since Trion is keeping everything close to their vest. However if there is one thing that you can count on is that accounts WILL NOT be transferred to any new version of the game because it makes no sense financially to do it. Porting over people's accounts/inventories not only gives them less incentive to spend money it also alienates new customers who show up at launch and find themselves at an immediate disadvantage. The most that I would expect would be an exclusive title for people who make the jump and possibly an extra 10% off of at the bit store during the first week of the launch. Obviously I hope that I'm wrong but even if Trion somehow manages to fix this mess so it can be ported to next-gen be prepared to start over from scratch.

    they would be crazy not to allow people to move there accounts to the new gen, would lose too many customers

    tbh i cant see why you cant just use your account now to log in on any platform, its not like they are making any money now from the different retail copies

    its free to play, you should be able to use your account to log in on any platform be it pc/xbox 1 or ps4 going forward
  • 12-12-2017, 09:29 AM
    Sldr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by r1p View Post
    Everything right now is just supposition since Trion is keeping everything close to their vest. However if there is one thing that you can count on is that accounts WILL NOT be transferred to any new version of the game because it makes no sense financially to do it. Porting over people's accounts/inventories not only gives them less incentive to spend money it also alienates new customers who show up at launch and find themselves at an immediate disadvantage. The most that I would expect would be an exclusive title for people who make the jump and possibly an extra 10% off of at the bit store during the first week of the launch. Obviously I hope that I'm wrong but even if Trion somehow manages to fix this mess so it can be ported to next-gen be prepared to start over from scratch.

    For me I will keep spending money if they transfer my acc.if I had to restart a new acc and spend more money on another acc and lose the money I got into this one I wouldn't do that. So in my opinion they would lose more money,not going to have 2 accs I spend money on. If they close 360 down then I'm done if they transfer I'll keep spending and continue the journey
  • 12-12-2017, 09:36 AM
    Kodakmoment
    I haven't bought the ps4 yet but am having lots of fun with the content so far with the ps3 version. Now that the ps4 is in possible development of a new version of the game, it gives me an incentive to purchase the newer console. i wonder how long it will take for them to come out with this version of the game. I still haven't bought the gold edition for defiance yet and was excited to do so this coming winter sale for a discounted price. Depending on the release date of the ps4 version, I might still buy it just for more content!
  • 12-12-2017, 09:53 AM
    Bentu
    On the subject of cross over content, having bought 3 of each edition of the game I wouldn't be buying it all again.
    Personally I feel it would show the community some loyalty if they allowed at least one character cross over.
    I know many people have multiple toons full of gear but sonethings better than nothing.
  • 12-12-2017, 10:50 AM
    jay ellis
    If they cant bring my toon and inventory to PS4 can they just give me Kon's inventory instead? I'd be OK with that.;)
    Really though, it looks like they are saying this will be a new version of the old game, which I'm reading as "start over".
    Also, isn't PS5 coming in a year or so? Are we gonna be one step behind again?
  • 12-12-2017, 11:54 AM
    BarrySciFi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by konstantinov View Post
    Please remember (and I realize the nature and differences) that Blizzard did allow people to port over their diablo 3 and diablo 3:RoS accounts from x360/ps3 to next gen and even had it setup to do x360 -> ps4 and ps3 -> xbone. We may luck out and they've already shown that it is possible to capture toons and transfer them over (even if it was jenky at times) to pts. I'd like to stay as optimistic about this as possible.


    Agree 100 percent, Kon. They may or may not charge a fee, but I feel pretty confident that we will get our characters ported over. Those few of us that have dumped money into this game are the reason the game is still alive and kicking almost 5 years on. Wouldn’t be a smart move to severely alienate your high-paying customers...
  • 12-12-2017, 12:11 PM
    Cygnus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by r1p View Post
    Everything right now is just supposition since Trion is keeping everything close to their vest. However if there is one thing that you can count on is that accounts WILL NOT be transferred to any new version of the game because it makes no sense financially to do it. Porting over people's accounts/inventories not only gives them less incentive to spend money it also alienates new customers who show up at launch and find themselves at an immediate disadvantage. The most that I would expect would be an exclusive title for people who make the jump and possibly an extra 10% off of at the bit store during the first week of the launch. Obviously I hope that I'm wrong but even if Trion somehow manages to fix this mess so it can be ported to next-gen be prepared to start over from scratch.

    They said exactly that, but would not confirm it this year and i can not locate where it was said. They also have a history of editing out what they don't want and rewriting. They have gone back on things that they said would never happen in the past.

    But like kon said, remaining positive. No sense getting updet over something we dont know yet. Also, don't spend any more money till they confirm or deny this, its the best way to protect yourself from disappointment. It would be heartbreaking to buy, upgrade, mod and master and find out it was not going to be able to transfer. Might also force them to make a decision and inform us HERE!!
  • 12-12-2017, 12:17 PM
    Kalizaar
    Woohoo! Can't wait to play on my PS4!
  • 12-12-2017, 12:51 PM
    Alahali
    Newbies again?, oh those times ...
  • 12-12-2017, 04:40 PM
    richardkrainium
    we are forgetting one thing here. the game may be going to the new consoles , but it isnt doing anything but upgrading on the pc. so why should the console players get kicked in the crotch when it come to chrs and the pc players get to continue on their same accounts
  • 12-12-2017, 07:30 PM
    Chump Norris
    Trion it would be a good idea to stick your head in here and say you'll be working on a way to let us transfer characters to nextgen, I say this because people aren't going to be as willing to spend much on the current Defiance knowing a nextgen version is coming and they'll be starting over.
  • 12-12-2017, 07:55 PM
    Fist of Life
    i would like to see them move to new consoles, but also want to be able to bring all my weapons with
  • 12-12-2017, 07:59 PM
    Zer0Playr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by konstantinov View Post
    Please remember (and I realize the nature and differences) that Blizzard did allow people to port over their diablo 3 and diablo 3:RoS accounts from x360/ps3 to next gen and even had it setup to do x360 -> ps4 and ps3 -> xbone. We may luck out and they've already shown that it is possible to capture toons and transfer them over (even if it was jenky at times) to pts. I'd like to stay as optimistic about this as possible.

    You forgot one thing: Diablo 3 was a paid game. I have PS3 version of D3RoS and it is simply terrible because of the hacked items in the game. About Defiance, it is a F2P/P2W, dunno anymore. If Trion doesn't allow the port, the game will simply die. People won't create a new char in PS4 and start over. In my case: I put a lot of money here and I don't want to hear from the devs that port won't be possible. I don't mind to buy the game if it will be needed, but I will if I can't grab my toon and my hard-earned stuff!
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