No Refunds for Game. No matter what.

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Originally Posted by ironhands

there will be new content added in a week.... and regularly after that.....

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indeed. we still have no idea how much content that will be or how long it will take. I guarantee you they didn't expect people to fly through all their available content in 4 days.

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Originally Posted by bleuzarro

haha clearly even gamestop realizes it's not worth ****. that's hilarious.

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Gamestop is going to get in trouble.

If they're taking back used copies of Defiance, which require a key code and an account...and reselling them.

Apparently Gamestop doesn't even know what they're doing...which is no surprise.

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Originally Posted by bleuzarro

and when has anyone not been able to play a game for a solid week because of consistent login errors?

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who hasn't been able to get in for a week?

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Originally Posted by bleuzarro

haha clearly even gamestop realizes it's not worth ****. that's hilarious.

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It's only that way because it seems like console gamers aren't that understanding when it comes to MMO games in the first place. Even then, don't you have to buy another key for the game anyway? (IE: Project $10?) or do they just let any dude with a disc in?

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Originally Posted by Nerdy Ryuu

Those are much bigger games , and are really mmo's Defiance is as much as a mmo as red dead redemption. That game MP alone has more content and is bigger then defiance.

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red dead redemption was also made by a noteworthy developer. *key difference* (waits for angry fanboy responses)

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Originally Posted by bleuzarro

haha clearly even gamestop realizes it's not worth ****. that's hilarious.

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no, because gamestop wants to pocket as much as they can from the original sale, for the same reason they usually give you next to nothing for any trade-in.

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Originally Posted by ironhands

who hasn't been able to get in for a week?

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you not read OP? idk if this is troll or not.

I got a refund for my preorder in minutes so I could change my preorder over to steam.

Sucks to be you.

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Originally Posted by ironhands

no, because gamestop wants to pocket as much as they can from the original sale, for the same reason they usually give you next to nothing for any trade-in.

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holy bejeezus. is this going to become another thread about the evils of capitalism and corporations? how dare gamestop be a middle man for consumers and video games? why cant we all just go directly to the developer? which ironically, is basically how PC gamers work, yet they get blasted all the time for being elitist *******s. So, basically it's a circle jerk. gnarly.

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Originally Posted by Taaltos

Gamestop is going to get in trouble.

If they're taking back used copies of Defiance, which require a key code and an account...and reselling them.

Apparently Gamestop doesn't even know what they're doing...which is no surprise.

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yep, unless they have a way to disable the keys. can these people who returned the game keep playing it right from the hdd? if these copies are re-sold, they'll be unusable since they key's been used.