No PVP servers?

Seriously? This game looks so sick but it should be faction based so people who want to PvP can choose a PvP server and fight the enemy forces in the open world. I couldn't care less about shadow war or arena matches, I find it fun doing quests and then running into an enemy. PvP servers give you adrenaline and satisfaction when you kill another player in MMO's, and are a ton of fun. It's a shooter MMO.. makes sense that you'd have this.. I've been waiting for so long for a MMO shooter for consoles where you can level up your skills/abilities and do quests with open world faction PvP (not shadow war). You couldn't of made some kind of PvP or PvE choice before you made your character...? Honestly ruined my excitement on an amazing looking game.

This is coming from someone who isn't even a PvPer, like I said I couldn't care less about shadow war or arena matches. All I want is a little unexpected excitement once in awhile while leveling and doing quests. Some people may not like these kind of games/servers which is why you should be able to pick PvP or PvE at the beginning.

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Originally Posted by PvP

Do you have to queue up for it, or is it an area you can walk into?

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If I understood correctly it has to be queued up but I might be completely wrong. It may be an open world area that's specified for Shadow War operations. Won't know until next beta or release.

http://en.defiance-wiki.com/wiki/Shadow_War

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Originally Posted by GT3000

Shadow War might be open PVP away from the PVE section.

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My understanding is that Shadow War is specifically NOT away from the PVE section, it is basically PvP overlayed onto the regular PvE maps. In the 1 hour playthrough, they even mentioned that you can be doing PvE and bump into people involved in the Shadow war and fight them.

"PvP servers" should be named "Gank servers" to explicitly name primary activity of their population.

P.S. As PvPer I prefer PvE servers because end-game PvP is much more intensive on them.

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Originally Posted by Kenz

My understanding is that Shadow War is specifically NOT away from the PVE section, it is basically PvP overlayed onto the regular PvE maps. In the 1 hour playthrough, they even mentioned that you can be doing PvE and bump into people involved in the Shadow war and fight them.

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your 100% correct because in that video it was stated that you could be busy killing random mobs when the shadow war randomly starts

Excluding the resources to run full pvp servers next to pve, in a tps world would somewhat be tough. Balancing weapons etc for pve, pvp arenas. And then open world. Would be a nightmare. Not impossible but given the nature of this game, would mean diverting resources away from the already huge challenge of making a game, that is effected by a tv show.

remember this is not your standard mmo. Shooters are hard enough to balance, but you have to throw in the major pve element to this game.

Finally to have faction based war, would go completely against the games lore. And would be almost impossible to fit within the story. For a start there is a working government, law, and the major powers are money hungry, not blood. Not to mention a military.

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Originally Posted by PvP

Not really interested in queuing up for PvP or having specific rewards for them like other games. Just want some extra excitement while doing the regular things the game has to offer. I will probably have to wait for another game such as Destiny to see if that has what it offers for me. Unless anyone here knows a game for the PS3 in the way I'm wanting? (Not that Dust game)

Thanks.



I understand this issue, but to each their own. I'm not looking to force anybody into anything.

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Looks like I was wrong. It's open world areas overlapped on PVE areas. As #11 and #12 confirmed.

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Originally Posted by GT3000

Looks like I was wrong. It's open world areas overlapped on PVE areas. As #11 and #12 confirmed.

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That at least sounds pretty fun, it's a fair compromise if it's like that. I'll probably give it a shot then.

Watch this video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKTGP-Mms6U

It basically tells you how pvp is going to work.

I know I've not been on the forums for long but flipping heck people that was a pretty frosty reception.

@ PVP, not sure of any outside of Dust to be honest apart from Destiny as you mentioned and I think that is going to definitely best played on next gen if you're consoling rather than PC.