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Even with everything that's happened... I will trust you, 2050.
I'll be there on the 2nd Armistice Day (7/6).
But the *second* you freeze my PS4, I'm out. I will not sacrifice another piece of hardware to Defiance.
This time, you'll also need to make an effort. And I'll be back if you do.
crits, crashes, freezes dont harm the console. Been playing defiance on the same console since 2013.
Remove any thought of a clean experience from your mind, especially on console. No company could have defiance run cleanly.
they sure mess up tvs , messed up one of my ps3s and only played one game on. fried 2 hard drives as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kniferun
[QUOTE=kniferun;2102954]crits, crashes, freezes dont harm the console. Been playing defiance on the same console since 2013.
I went through 2 ps3 with defiance,and yes it will damage your ps when it crashes,when you tern it back on you get a warning saying possible loss of data or damage when ps3 not tern off properly,then we need to scan data...You sure you got a ps3? But on ps4 if we crash the app just shuts down with a error warning .
That's got a lot of truth to it, because Defiance was cobbled together coding rushed due to the TV show's air deadline. They even took on the monumental task of designing it to work on PC and 2 different consoles in that same limited time frame. Sure the limitations of PS3 and XBox360 hobbled the performance of Defiance. Several companies passed on the project because the time for development was so poor. Trion took a risk, put themselves under pressure, outsourced what they needed to and delivered a playable game, even if bug ridden and hamstrung, missing pieces most MMO's have designed in from the start... completely unlike the masterful design and launch of Rift.Quote:
Originally Posted by kniferun
Sony programmed that warning with a wide range of issues.
Overheating crashes the system, which actually causes more damage then any games crash, freeze or crit. People over heat their consoles and blame the company for releasing a terrible console. extended play without resting your console kills them more then any crash, freeze. crit.
I only owned a ps3 for exclusives(now ps4). Its well documented xbox is the weaker console on all counts for 3 generations now. If xbox can survive with proper care, playstation should be able to survive.
so you are saying its our ps3 thats overheating and causes our hard crashes,if it overheats then it will cut out in power,dc from in game are nothing to do with overheating is overload of data. The thread on connection in general needs changing then...Everyone thinks its the game. Lol new consoles dont overheat. And that warning is only when you hard crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by kniferun
I didnt say anything about connection issues, besides crits(disconnects.), which i only said they dont damage the console. Connection issue cause crits. freezes and crashes are from hardware which is probably from overheating(Not saying the console notices, it just stops working properly). I have yet to see a crash or freeze while playing on xbox. From what i remember sony consoles are always more powerful and can deal with more data. Crit out constantly though.
he is saying that nothing game could do can damage the console hardware itself like someone claimed here. (Well it can but that would need to be on dead serious purpose.) And that's truth. Same as no game can directly cause PC to completely freeze or bluescreen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ttoomm
The worst thing that could happen when game crashes and console panic for some reason is it leaves some logs or page file or something like that in uncommitted state. And if there is another bug in such console it may not deal with it when it starts. But consoles are dummy boxes so my bet is they have a way to restore factory system from ROM.
As for HW fails.. overheating is doing a lot. And no, no console can be possibly immune to that. Even when some people believes in miracles and that the tiny box somehow wield the same power as eight times bigger GPUs while few tiny fans can do the job of proper cooling systems. It's same problem as "gaming notebooks". It's pretty simple physics why it can't work like that.
Keep in mind that overheating is not just going to 90°C and triggering failsafe. It's also often going from 30 to 60 and back. Temperature changes are bad for everything. It's effect is cumulative. But that is what you get if your cooling system is underpowered like all NB/consoles have. It can't keep temperature stable.
At this time and age, a game that hard freezes your current generation console (or your PC) is completely unacceptable. I will walk away from 2050 the second it does that.
Also, hard freezes lock completely the console, so you have to power cycle it. If you're saying 2050 does not do that on the PS4 (I haven't played the beta), then that's not a hard-freeze, it's just a crash. I can live with that, unless the game becomes unplayable.
And yes, you will sacrifice your hardware with the constant *power cycling* you have to do with constant hard freezing. Try pulling the power cord on your TV several times a day and see how long it will last.