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  • 07-15-2018, 04:10 AM
    MikeTheDane
    My minor Wishlist for Defiance 2050
    Hello everyone. just a quick list of features I hope we´ll see in Defiance 2050, though probably not :)

    Faster Reload times. Don´t understand why reloads are so effin slow considering some abilities take for example 10 seconds but some weapon reloads (RocketLaunchers anyone) take as much as 4-6 seconds to complete. the balance should be better even´d out

    Better mobility in combat… I never understood why our characters turn into turtles when fighting, particularly when ADS (Aim Down Sights) and also this ridiculous dodge roll. Dodging should get you out of the way not just be a little tumble that leaves you vulnerable..

    3 weapon slots would give a better "combat" balance. Example, I would have it be Pistol, Assault Rifle and RocketLauncher or Shotgun for backup.. Although I would like to have 4 weapon slots for a melee weapon as well

    Legendary weapons should have better mag cap.. recently I got the Demon Pistol (awesome gun btw) but sadly with an 8 bullet clip, however since it fires 2 shots per triggerpull you have 4 shots now granted it is powerfull 4 shots just isn´t enough facing multiple mobs… again with slow reloads, maybe a 12-14 bulletclip thereby having 6-7 shots
    Same goes for the Legendary Assault Rifle "Retribution" 32 bulletclip instead of the standard 24

    New vehicle models. Always liked the truck that the character Jon Cooper drives around in. but also perhaps a ATV tri wheel and some form of Smaller buggys..

    Now again these are just hope/ideas of mine. I do not, in any shape or form expect Trion to implement these things.. They are simply ideas I think would benefit the game as a whole…

    Have fun everyone..
  • 07-15-2018, 04:25 AM
    Scyris
    Honestly I think the reloading is currently bugged, as I've taken weapons in the base game with a simmlar reload time and they reload alot faster in the orignal game than in 2050. This was on a fresh character with no ego perks yet as well.

    The game has alot of issues that need to be addressed, like the weapons themselves need higher damage numbers, so that +damage upgrades actually make any noticable diffrence, or, the enemys need their health/shield halfed, as they current take way to many shots to kill.
  • 07-15-2018, 04:40 AM
    The 5 Ds of Death
    1. No more crit outs
  • 07-15-2018, 04:53 AM
    MikeTheDane
    Couldn´t agree more.. especially the Volge take way to many hits even with a detonator or rocket launcher.. but mainly the elites as a whole are too spongy.. I use almost all 300 round (Assault rifle) taking just one down.
  • 07-15-2018, 05:13 AM
    Hibanaa
    Id like to see the old x3 BRs, mass cannons, events and jackpots reintroduced along with the zombie mob, other then that i can deal with the PL Rating whicch is like your ego rating in D2013, And the diff skill tree which i see why it was done BC You could be a OP Super Ark hunter in OG D2013, but for the love of god why did you have to make everything into a bullet sponge, especially tankers, bulwarks, and blacklungs, maybe if we get a really high PL Itll be diff but i dont see it considering most mobs seem to level with you.
  • 07-15-2018, 07:26 AM
    MikeTheDane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hibanaa View Post
    Id like to see the old x3 BRs, mass cannons, events and jackpots reintroduced along with the zombie mob, other then that i can deal with the PL Rating whicch is like your ego rating in D2013, And the diff skill tree which i see why it was done BC You could be a OP Super Ark hunter in OG D2013, but for the love of god why did you have to make everything into a bullet sponge, especially tankers, bulwarks, and blacklungs, maybe if we get a really high PL Itll be diff but i dont see it considering most mobs seem to level with you.

    also agree.. another thing I´d like to see is a Aim line for grenades, since its more luck than skill when tossing one at moving enemies
  • 07-15-2018, 07:30 AM
    twowolves80
    Oooh, while we're all hoping for things that we'll never see, I got one!

    Hey, Trion, how about opening up more of the map?

    Trion's Official Response, taken from their news release:

    https://media.giphy.com/media/dYa5Sqnk1DYkw/giphy.gif
  • 07-15-2018, 07:52 AM
    MikeTheDane
    That just made my. day Thanks
  • 07-15-2018, 08:37 AM
    twowolves80
    Well, I figured there's only two options to deal with the abortive mess that Defiance has become: We can either get mad about it, which only wastes our energy and makes us feel terrible at the end of the day (fatigue, jitteriness, outburst of homicidal screaming...), or we can laugh at Trion and the ultimate failure of their company when it goes under from bad decisions fueled by corporate greed (That's the Mopar difference!) and lack of QC of the end product.

    Honestly, what the hell did they even bother doing a beta for? This still feels very much like it's in beta-stage, and not at all ready for prime-time.

    I also find it ironic that a very similar scenario of companies not leaving things well enough the hell alone is playing out over on the warframe forums.

    "War. Greed. War Greed never changes."

    [with apologies to Bethesda since they're a game company who, to their credit, gave consumers a way to hack their own product and openly look the other way with a grin at the modding community]
  • 07-15-2018, 09:12 AM
    MikeTheDane
    right about that, it just annoys me that it at times feels like devs aren´t even thinking logically about what some games need..

    Another thing that "bugs" the hell outta me is that no matter what you do, you keep getting interrupted by doing pretty much anything.. reload, while getting hit and its interrupted… explosion and you get interrupted.. using some machine and gets hit and its interrupted
  • 07-15-2018, 09:28 AM
    twowolves80
    Exactly. Or half the time things aren't even activating. Yeah...no thanks.

    I haven't played SkyForge since they completely overhauled the progression system...is that still worth playing? Might be time to revisit...I remember it had really lush background visuals, and I remember that was one reason I didn't mind grinding in it.

    Warframe is still eminently playable, despite them ****ing around with the UI which caused a ripple effect of bugs...

    Defiance is dead unless Trion does something amazing. This would absolutely have to be something on the order of...

    1. Expand the map. This means you have to hire more devs? Really? Guess what? Idgaf. You wanna keep up in this brave new world? You have to hire more and better devs.

    2. Add more story lines. Seriously. Wtf would you reboot Defiance to try to make more money off of it (when the opposite, in fact is now going to happen since regular Defiance is no more--you erased your entire player base/backup revenue stream in case 2050 bombs. Congrats!) if you're not going to come out with something different from what you just had. This logical exercise which has just revealed that the avaristic emperor wears no clothes was brought to you by the number 0, as in the number of players you're going to have if this keeps up.

    3. Get your coding stable, for the love of God, and fire whoever the hell released it from beta, because this is definitely not anywhere near a release-able perma-beta. This feels like you just slapped it together and we're testing it for you. If you're going to use the entire player base as your beta testers without compensation (perhaps that is why we are required to sign the eula every time we log in, hmmm...?), then you need to be frank about it. As there is no clear end-game strategy for Trion with this game, other than same ol', same ol', just a different console, you are going to watch your numbers dwindle ever faster as more cutting edge f2p games are released to take your place and push you into your rightful place as irrelevant--unless you do a seachange in the game.

    4. Address the ugliness and glitches that are still present from the first incarnation of Defiance, like the rubber-banding. Wtf? Are you kidding me? Who the hell thought, "Oh, yeah, it's Defiance 2050, no one will notice the rubber-banding!"? Get it together, or you're fired. My PS4 HDD is precious, and there's limited vacancy. You want in? You better be able to deliver to me a triple-AAA blockbuster quality f2p game like Warframe or SkyForge or (insert f2p mmo here) that you continue to build on. At least over at Digital Extremes, they're trying to expand the storylines of the game, even if their delivery is a bit sledge-fisted.

    Bottom line: Trion Worlds wants my money and time and HDD space? They gotta earn it just like anyone else, and they haven't impressed me at all with this lukewarm "reboot."
  • 07-15-2018, 10:59 AM
    MikeTheDane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twowolves80 View Post
    Exactly. Or half the time things aren't even activating. Yeah...no thanks.

    I haven't played SkyForge since they completely overhauled the progression system...is that still worth playing? Might be time to revisit...I remember it had really lush background visuals, and I remember that was one reason I didn't mind grinding in it.

    Warframe is still eminently playable, despite them ****ing around with the UI which caused a ripple effect of bugs...

    Defiance is dead unless Trion does something amazing. This would absolutely have to be something on the order of...

    1. Expand the map. This means you have to hire more devs? Really? Guess what? Idgaf. You wanna keep up in this brave new world? You have to hire more and better devs.

    2. Add more story lines. Seriously. Wtf would you reboot Defiance to try to make more money off of it (when the opposite, in fact is now going to happen since regular Defiance is no more--you erased your entire player base/backup revenue stream in case 2050 bombs. Congrats!) if you're not going to come out with something different from what you just had. This logical exercise which has just revealed that the avaristic emperor wears no clothes was brought to you by the number 0, as in the number of players you're going to have if this keeps up.

    3. Get your coding stable, for the love of God, and fire whoever the hell released it from beta, because this is definitely not anywhere near a release-able perma-beta. This feels like you just slapped it together and we're testing it for you. If you're going to use the entire player base as your beta testers without compensation (perhaps that is why we are required to sign the eula every time we log in, hmmm...?), then you need to be frank about it. As there is no clear end-game strategy for Trion with this game, other than same ol', same ol', just a different console, you are going to watch your numbers dwindle ever faster as more cutting edge f2p games are released to take your place and push you into your rightful place as irrelevant--unless you do a seachange in the game.

    4. Address the ugliness and glitches that are still present from the first incarnation of Defiance, like the rubber-banding. Wtf? Are you kidding me? Who the hell thought, "Oh, yeah, it's Defiance 2050, no one will notice the rubber-banding!"? Get it together, or you're fired. My PS4 HDD is precious, and there's limited vacancy. You want in? You better be able to deliver to me a triple-AAA blockbuster quality f2p game like Warframe or SkyForge or (insert f2p mmo here) that you continue to build on. At least over at Digital Extremes, they're trying to expand the storylines of the game, even if their delivery is a bit sledge-fisted.

    Bottom line: Trion Worlds wants my money and time and HDD space? They gotta earn it just like anyone else, and they haven't impressed me at all with this lukewarm "reboot."

    I hear you..
    Sadly It might just be too late for Defiance 2050 to make that kind of impact it needs considering we´re now at the last year or maybe 2 years left in the Current gen of consoles at least, and I doubt we´ll see the "push" this game needs to really knock our socks off.
    But Miracles has been known to happen. hell they happen in games all the time :)
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