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I had a 404 or so damage full auto AR for awhile, it was pretty hilarious vs groups of enemies at short range. Just feather the trigger at head level, nothing but crits etc. 45 round magazine.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetMadness
Pistol is, at range, really just a more controllable semi auto sniper with dramatic damage fall off.
Seems I almost have to say this every day now.
WATCH THE MOVIE IN MY SIGNATURE.
Aim for weak spots.
PISTOL ADVOCATE IN THIS THREAD. Sorted.
this is like a ego-skill fight inbetween rpg and fps nerds -_-
"i can do headshots with pistols at 100 meters its op" " pistols suck i prefer shotguns" etc.
Weapons are far from balanced and useful. regardless of situation - some wepons do **** in all situations.
Wolfhound is the only pistol worth having, rest is just crap - or only has specific pvp uses. If its fast, it uses up ammo too fast (why would u want a pistol smg -_-) if its slow... well its simply slow. And most got really bad bloom.
My purple wolverine has 0.75 bloom, and my wolfhound has 0.30 bloom, wolverine burst fires.. is siphon and procs ALOT. im talking like every third shot, so shields are full most of the time, wolfhound is just hectic for crits.
use an assault rifle for any time you have to do grey dmg, soon as you see an opportunity opening up for a critical, swap to 500% pistol and eat some souls, sorted.
Detu Ara is a pistol. Reason enough to level them.
Is that the silly machine pistol from Nim? Yeah the Shondu consulate vendor loves the one I sold it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhorge
I don't care to much for the pistol after i got my first SMG while its a ammo spammer if fired properly in controlled bursts isn't as bad.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by jnt
- but yeah. pistols.
What pistol is that in the video?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greywolf
I'm new to the world, wasn't in beta, but running my first character with a burst fire aslt rifle + pistol (load1) and full auto elec aslt rifle + submchn (load2). Maybe it's a bit "roleplay" though I don't consider myself a RP'er. I find it fun and enjoyable to crit headshots for 1400 with my wolfhound side arm. It was even better when I didn't stop to re-supply and ended up out of assault rifle ammo and had to fall back on my side arm. Granted I could have gone into inventory and quickly equipped a shotgun or rocket launcher but why. For me it was experiencing that scene in "Aliens" when Rodriguez draws her sidearm out and I was knee deep in a bug nest. :)
Yeah, so I died a couple times until I "magically" found more ammunition on the ground. It was good times and something I'll remember. When games come and go over the years that's really all you take away anyways.
Cheers - Valhalla
The only reason I use pistols besides the pursuit is because I am used to it from COD. When I play as a Sniper in that game, switching to pistol is very fast, so I kinda carried on that tradition in this game. Plus, I use cloak a lot which works well for pistols.
Cloak + head shot=dead
Almost?Quote:
Originally Posted by WaGzy
My unmodded Wolfhound Pistol chained crits at min range:
1416 per shot
6.5 shots per second
16 round mag
1.8 reload
22656 damage per mag
9204 damage per second
5316 damage per second accounting for reload during extended fire
Find me another gun that clears those last 2 numbers. Either of them.
Wolfhound pistols has okay base damage and awesome crit mulitpliers and fast reload. I find it useful in bug arkfalls where the pistol really shine 100% crit chance on huge targets. Outside of that its outclass by the rest weapon types.
Wolfhounds pistols are pretty much the best weapons to kill stuff like the scrapper scorpion or anything with a small mostly open crit area. It works very well against bigger hellbugs too as, if you can get the aggro, the elite/patriarch whatever will run straight at you and you can simply unload into his mouth.
Usually kills elite hellbug warriors running at you in few seconds, not even using a full mag in coop (means the health is scaled up).
Just a blue wolfhound, in that movie it is unmodded, an orange wolfhound will tear shreds especially if it has a +4 clip, get another +4 clip magazine mod on it, and your looking at a 20clip magazine 500% crit pistol, only bad thing about pistols is drop off dmg so you gota keep close,Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Marshal
on a side note i will be uploading my monarch quick kill guide in a minute, how to kill a monarch in 20 seconds
Pistols are not crap. You need to learn how to use them. If you use the Wolfhound you will come top damage in instances 90% of the time. Yeah it has low damage...but it has a stupidly high crit modifier (I had one with almost 5). So get in close and keep shoring them in the head. I have a Wolverine I have missed atm that can take out almost every non-elite in one to two bursts.
My wolfhound has the highest DPS of any of my guns...
and I have a legendary Saw
I messed around with one particular pistol that when shot into a enemy's head crit for 1k damage easily. I don't understand why you think they are obsolete. They have a use just like every weapon in the game, some better than others.
Haven't read all the pages here but I have a 25-ish round full auto pistol. It is like a glock and I love it with my sniper as a secondary. Not sure about this but seems as if the switch from one weapon to the next is faster when switching to a pistol rather than say a lmg. Also pretty sure pistols are the quickest reloaders. I can empty the 25 rounds in about 1.5 seconds reload in another .5 seconds and be shooting again.
Did the protect farmers from raiders with just this pistol and I had to constantly pick up new ammo. It has an acid property as well which is nice.
Have a second pistol with the purple laser looking property syphon I think, and while semi auto has a 15 round magazine whice only takes about 2 seconds to empty. The accuracy is really high with little to no spread or recoil firing as fast as possible.
While not ideal for lots of situations, pistols are very useful.
IF you are able to maintain 100% accuracy and 100% criticals a wolfhound is the highest dps (including reload) weapon in the game.
see:
weapon chart!
I used to think that, then I looked at the crit multiplier....
I have a pistol on 2 of my load outs now
Pistols work perfectly fine for nearly any encounter as long as the user knows how to use the damn thing.
For people whining about weapons and their falloff damage and oh noes its a **** weapon...Duh ******, your trying to shoot it from 20m out.
Iv seen people top coop scoreboards damage/kill wise with pistol / smg loadouts. Hell iv done it with pistol/shotgun loadouts more than once.
So, heres how it stands.
LEARN
TO
PLAY
before you bash a weapon type.
There's a stat special to purple and orange items:
'10% refresh of your EGO puwer on full reload'
And there's a perk called 'Pumped Up':
'15% refresh of your EGO puwer on full reload'
These two things added the very simple mathematical fact that Ground Pounder is broken and has the highest DPS against any armored target and Wolfhound and VBI Auto pistols have easily the highest DPS against every target that can be hit for critical damage ... make me not really care whether or not you stick to your SAW for every target no matter if it's a good idea or not, when Dekuso and Motherload are two of the rare examples of when it's actually an outstanding choice.
Play the game the way you want, the co-ops are so ridiculously easy it doesn't matter whether you're at 100% and it gives me the opportunity to get continue to severely outperform the rest of pretty much every group I met.
ps: I added Autopistol to the Wolfhound - yes, the raw DPS are not as high but application of nano effects is more frequent due to weapon mechanics and it seems like nano effect chance is dependent on weapon type, with pistol being higher than SMGs or ARs for example.
pps: The SMG ripoff that is VOT Blaster makes ARs and SMGs pale in DPS as well, but is well balanced since you cannot use it as a primary weapon because of the ammo limitations.
ppps: I'm done testing FRC Bull Rush and it's really not bad, but the handling ... I might just not be skilled enough for that kind of recoil. -.-
I get pistol kills all the time from far away. Just land head shots. Anything other than a headshot is a waste. Pistols get some craaaazy high critical modifiers, so headshots do a lot more damage than on other guns.