So, I Just Beat Defiance. Well, Errr, Thanks For Nuttin Trion...

• The show has already been filmed for an entire season and promised for at least 2 seasons to run so far.
• The game is promised at least 5 DLC in the current season not to include the free episode DLCs.
• The "final" boss who is not the final boss but the final for this 2 weeks prior to show launch very deliberately shows that it is "to be continued"...
• In the making of defiance show on syfy they talked quite a bit how Nolan's trip from San Fransisco to ST Louis/Defiance is specifically scripted into the show and the game...

it's not a "finished" game because it is a series with regular update content much like a TV show... because it is a TV show. There is plenty of advertised and inferred/implied evidence to show the game is not meant to be "finished" and they potentially have all those episodes ready to go and launch as it comes out exactly how the show has already done. Theese 2 weeks are just the time it takes nolan to go from San Fran to St Louis, it hasn't even really started yet.

So they advertised that the game would have all these wonderful features yes? Did they say it would be in the first season release? Given that this is a MMO that has promised content updates, then I have no problem with waiting for those updates to hit. Yes, games now adays are being released quite half assed and normally have DLC tacked on. Why do games keep doing this? Well one theory is the DLC is added because it can't be pirated, the other is the developers simply run out of time due to publisher pushyness.

Fact is, this game is still a game. People play it every day and enjoy it for hours on end. You have the hardcore bunch that rushed through, trying to be the number 1 person and have run out of content. I am not defending this game and the fact is, you payed your 60, you got more than five hours of game play then I say congrats, you have gotten more time than most games provide now adays. It is a forum and you are welcome to your opinion but you still shouldn't question people's opinions because they aren't in your own view set.

The Purple Quest Pistol is actually really good, when you add a Magazine Mod to it, its actually better than most Assault Rifles.

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Originally Posted by The Hangman

Case in point. Thanks for the excellent example!

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I'm glad you agree and were able to see the flaw in your logic. Could you stop praising lame releases? Or at least stop pretending everyone how realizes how lame the game is has something wrong with them? I'd settle for that. I won't tell you are wrong for liking half baked "mmos", I'll just say you are incredibly easy to please.

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Originally Posted by Gohlar

I'm glad you agree and were able to see the flaw in your logic. Could you stop praising lame releases? Or at least stop pretending everyone who realizes who lame the game is has something wrong with them? I'd settle for that.

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Perhaps if you pointed out where I praised this game, or any other?

Now if you'd stop pretending that your opinion is fact we could move on...tho I doubt that's ever going to happen.

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Originally Posted by The Hangman

Perhaps if you pointed out where I praised this game, or any other?

Now if you'd stop pretending that your opinion is fact we could move on...tho I doubt that's ever going to happen.

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My post

your head

Really, I'm not surprised. Good luck trying to convince yourself everyone who doesn't like the game is trying to be edgy and cool. They aren't. They are disappointed they spent money on this and rightly so.

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Originally Posted by LadyChaos

• The show has already been filmed for an entire season and promised for at least 2 seasons to run so far.
• The game is promised at least 5 DLC in the current season not to include the free episode DLCs.
• The "final" boss who is not the final boss but the final for this 2 weeks prior to show launch very deliberately shows that it is "to be continued"...
• In the making of defiance show on syfy they talked quite a bit how Nolan's trip from San Fransisco to ST Louis/Defiance is specifically scripted into the show and the game...

it's not a "finished" game because it is a series with regular update content much like a TV show... because it is a TV show. There is plenty of advertised and inferred/implied evidence to show the game is not meant to be "finished" and they potentially have all those episodes ready to go and launch as it comes out exactly how the show has already done. Theese 2 weeks are just the time it takes nolan to go from San Fran to St Louis, it hasn't even really started yet.

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Probably sounded good on paper but it's turning out to be a real disaster. Releasing the game 1 quest at a time is perhaps not the best idea...

As for DLC, Defiance is certainly turning out to be a very expensive game for something that's so unfinished.

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Originally Posted by Gohlar

My post

your head

Really, I'm not surprised. Good luck trying to convince yourself everyone who doesn't like the game is trying to be edgy and cool. They aren't. They are disappointed they spent money on this and rightly so.

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So, you can't show where I've told others how they should view this game, only that people don't have the right to force their opinion of the game on others. Good job with that one, you really got me good.

Thanks for playing!

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Originally Posted by The Hangman

So, you can't show where I've told others how they should view this game, only that people don't have the right to force their opinion of the game on others. Good job with that one, you really got me good.

Thanks for playing!

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No problem. My advice is avoid the hipster posts where you make excuses as to why people don't like the game and you should be ok. I mean the game has glaring issues and while you are entitled to your opinion, pretending anyone with problems is "just trying to be edgy and cool" makes you look really foolish.

Again, some people are easy to please and that's ok. There are people who defended Hellgate London, it happens. Just don't be surprised when not everyone agrees. Glad I could help.

I like the pistol. Bear in mind that I really didn't use pistols until I got this one. It's a fully automatic pistol for starters. Secondly, with the right mods, it can be pretty stable when fired. I use it as a secondary when I want to use a sniper rifle as a CQC situational weapon. The ammo reserve is a bit shallow IMO. If you haven't sold it, try it.