So, I Just Beat Defiance. Well, Errr, Thanks For Nuttin Trion...

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08-15-2013, 11:03 AM
Haffoc

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

And you spelled, spelled wrong. Two can play that game. Spelt is wheat.

edit: ah, I was inb4'd.

Actually he/she didn't. Spelt is past and past participle of spell and has the same meaning as spelled.
08-15-2013, 11:07 AM
Tyger

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Originally Posted by IAMREALITY

...right

That's like finally gettin' your 7 yr degree in Liberal Arts and claiming you won at 'Life'.

Lulz.
08-15-2013, 11:10 AM
Sanguinesun

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Originally Posted by Tyger

That's like finally gettin' your 7 yr degree in Liberal Arts and claiming you won at 'Life'.

Lulz.

That poster hasn't been on the forums since June 5th :P
08-15-2013, 11:11 AM
Sanguinesun

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

Actually he/she didn't. Spelt is past and past participle of spell and has the same meaning as spelled.

Damn that Norman invasion of England in 1066AD and its agent of change eh? :P
08-15-2013, 11:31 AM
Haffoc

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Originally Posted by Sanguinesun

Damn that Norman invasion of England in 1066AD and its agent of change eh? :P

It also doesn't help by having so many regional, traditional, and modern dialects in such a small country. A scene from Hot Fuzz comes to mind, with a London copper needing 2 people to translate what a third says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erDPoSV8Qzo
08-15-2013, 11:52 AM
Sanguinesun

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Originally Posted by Haffoc

It also doesn't help by having so many regional, traditional, and modern dialects in such a small country. A scene from Hot Fuzz comes to mind, with a London copper needing 2 people to translate what a third says.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erDPoSV8Qzo

I was specifically referring to the spelled(post 1066AD: Middle English) and Spelt(prior to 1066AD Old English) variation: brother vs brethren, learned vs learnt etc.
08-15-2013, 12:45 PM
Tyger

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Originally Posted by Sanguinesun

That poster hasn't been on the forums since June 5th :P

It's ok, much like herpes the literary sting of my jab will stay with them for eternity. Valtrex that, sucka'!
08-15-2013, 12:47 PM
Haffoc

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Originally Posted by Sanguinesun

I was specifically referring to the spelled(post 1066AD: Middle English) and Spelt(prior to 1066AD Old English) variation: brother vs brethren, learned vs learnt etc.

Yeah I know, but I have a bad habit of going off on tangents, which then reminded me of that scene and the vagaries of British dialects, accents, etc.
08-15-2013, 01:12 PM
N3gativeCr33p

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Originally Posted by Yewa

Cooper is owing you at least one round at the crater, that's what he says on the last cutscene when everyone goes to the crater to celebrate. But us dirty ark hunters can't enter the crater...

You're right! Thanks for the reminder. ;)
08-15-2013, 01:46 PM
Indra Echo

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Originally Posted by Arkfail

I just beat the game. Please don't bother with the condescending presumptuous nerdy remarks like 'theres still a ton of fetch missions you can do' or 'you can grind arkfalls for like ever and ever'. The story is done, the game has BOTH static and non-static elements, though i might argue that endlessly grinding arkfalls so you can compare yourself to others who endlessly grind arkfalls to...etc, may not be static, as such, but it sure is stagnant. Like dogs chasing thier tails to prove to eachother that they can. Also, some people don't seem to comprehend the fact that sycophants aren't, contrary to thier narrow self centered world view, the only people who have the right to express themselves. Now with all of that out of the way..., i too felt like "I just went through all these hours of grinding to reach EGO 950, I solo'd most of the game, never asked for help ever, beat the main boss and all i get is a purple pistol pocket change and a beer".:confused:

Wow. You soloed most of the game. Sounds like fun in an MMO. You were grinding to get to EGO 950. Well I'm pretty sure you were doing it wrong then. I didn't have to grind at all to get there. The grinding comes later and is actually part and parcel of nearly every game today so I don't know what to think.

It's completely valid to say that if you have not done all time trials, side missions, hot shots, and rampages, then that's not completing the game. It's also valid to say that by soloing most of it that means you didn't do many coop things (not saying that's a major thing even) nor did you really do some of the most fun things that you could do, and yes some of those things are kind of games you and others make up yourselves. It makes grinding be not grinding.

As far as arkfalls go--if you think that they exist merely as some way for others to say "mine is bigger than yours" then again that is your mindset and it's fundamentally flawed. Arkfalls are what you make of them. They offer different challenges none the least of which are personal ones. You may merely want to see how good you can do but it doesn't have to be about how much better than everyone else you are. It may be about how many foes you can get rid of (which doesn't equate to a good score), or how much loot and scrip and salvage you can get.

And the game can be as little or as much as you want to make of it. If you don't like to play with others then I'd question why you got the game in the first place. I've mostly been independent in games, don't like to join groups and stuff, but this game changed that for me, and I've had a lot of fun getting help and helping others. Even racing to some location to help someone who needed reviving. Or coming upon a random person struggling with the Volge or whatever. I've had some real laughs with friends over odd things and yes bugs in the game. Yesterday I did Explosions 101 with friends and I got stuck on a fence and needed to be revived but they couldn't help me. It looked like I was swimming upside down. It was hilarious. At other times, I've seen a friend fly by outside of her vehicle and then a few seconds later I've seen the vehicle fly by like it was on remote control. Another funny moment. I've gone Volge Hunting in huge clan groups and in groups of 2. I've done that, started in a group of 2 and ended up in a convoy of a lot of random people. It isn't always about the things set up for you in the game-it's sometimes about just having fun. Some things are only as stagnant as the person doing it.

This as opposed to other games that define fun as linear where you start a match, kill others, and it ends when time is up or enough people have died, and upon doing that repeatedly, you get to advance in Prestige and do it all again. Or you capture points or take flags to points or bomb things, all so you can advance in Prestige and do it all again, over and over and over again. There's grinding and then there's grinding.
08-15-2013, 02:19 PM
Rasczak

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Originally Posted by Indra Echo

Wow. You soloed most of the game. Sounds like fun in an MMO. You were grinding to get to EGO 950. Well I'm pretty sure you were doing it wrong then. I didn't have to grind at all to get there. The grinding comes later and is actually part and parcel of nearly every game today so I don't know what to think.

It's completely valid to say that if you have not done all time trials, side missions, hot shots, and rampages, then that's not completing the game. It's also valid to say that by soloing most of it that means you didn't do many coop things (not saying that's a major thing even) nor did you really do some of the most fun things that you could do, and yes some of those things are kind of games you and others make up yourselves. It makes grinding be not grinding.

As far as arkfalls go--if you think that they exist merely as some way for others to say "mine is bigger than yours" then again that is your mindset and it's fundamentally flawed. Arkfalls are what you make of them. They offer different challenges none the least of which are personal ones. You may merely want to see how good you can do but it doesn't have to be about how much better than everyone else you are. It may be about how many foes you can get rid of (which doesn't equate to a good score), or how much loot and scrip and salvage you can get.

And the game can be as little or as much as you want to make of it. If you don't like to play with others then I'd question why you got the game in the first place. I've mostly been independent in games, don't like to join groups and stuff, but this game changed that for me, and I've had a lot of fun getting help and helping others. Even racing to some location to help someone who needed reviving. Or coming upon a random person struggling with the Volge or whatever. I've had some real laughs with friends over odd things and yes bugs in the game. Yesterday I did Explosions 101 with friends and I got stuck on a fence and needed to be revived but they couldn't help me. It looked like I was swimming upside down. It was hilarious. At other times, I've seen a friend fly by outside of her vehicle and then a few seconds later I've seen the vehicle fly by like it was on remote control. Another funny moment. I've gone Volge Hunting in huge clan groups and in groups of 2. I've done that, started in a group of 2 and ended up in a convoy of a lot of random people. It isn't always about the things set up for you in the game-it's sometimes about just having fun. Some things are only as stagnant as the person doing it.

This as opposed to other games that define fun as linear where you start a match, kill others, and it ends when time is up or enough people have died, and upon doing that repeatedly, you get to advance in Prestige and do it all again. Or you capture points or take flags to points or bomb things, all so you can advance in Prestige and do it all again, over and over and over again. There's grinding and then there's grinding.

And you are talking to an empty chair. He has been here since June. Clint Eastwood would be proud.
08-15-2013, 02:33 PM
Sanguinesun

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

And you are talking to an empty chair. He has been here since June. Clint Eastwood would be proud.

Not that I want to put a feather in the cap of our resident apologist, but he was speaking to Arkfail who posted today for the first time in the forums by resurrecting this thread. Not the others whom I think you're referring to from months past.
08-15-2013, 04:28 PM
PitBull76

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Originally Posted by DeMoted

You spelt "nothing" wrong.

and you spelled "spelled" wrong
08-15-2013, 04:32 PM
Billy Guile

necro threads. bruce campbell, stand up!
08-15-2013, 04:35 PM
TigrisMorte

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Originally Posted by PitBull76

and you spelled "spelled" wrong

and your wrong is wrong
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spelt
08-15-2013, 04:40 PM
PitBull76

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Originally Posted by Santiak

Aye, it is perhaps a bit on the skint side as far as rewards go - but between the impoverised farming community and Varus, perhaps it was quite a big sum, albeit trying to look at it from a "roleplay" perspective doesn't increase the value of it all.
On a sidenote, I noticed you mentioned:

Well, the gun - while not your prefered weapon - was one such reward. As far as I'm aware, that gun is unique (not by rarity, but by name), and can't be found outside of completing that mission.

There are actually quite a few quest rewards like that. One of the first rewards you get is an HP-6 Wolfhound. It is grey in color and has a different reticle than the VBI version and, from what I have seen, is the only one you can get. Sure I have seen tons of VBI HP-6 Wolfhounds, and I love them, but there is always something special about those unique ones.
08-15-2013, 04:52 PM
Wtflag

This game has never been designed to reward those who accomplish more.

1. Black challenger (hardest vehicle to acquire) stats worse than the red (starter) challenger

2. Ark Pedator (hardest suit to acquire) looks like some other hobo suit when view by others

3. 5000 ego's (max level) only reward is higher salvage cost and lower market potential

What the OP wrote about is just a tip of the iceberg.
08-15-2013, 05:19 PM
Rasczak

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Originally Posted by Sanguinesun

Not that I want to put a feather in the cap of our resident apologist, but he was speaking to Arkfail who posted today for the first time in the forums by resurrecting this thread. Not the others whom I think you're referring to from months past.

Ahhh. Well, damn it.
08-15-2013, 09:06 PM
Deirachel

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...psc39ccb39.jpg
08-15-2013, 09:11 PM
Artemis Shrikes

you are very far from beating the game
08-15-2013, 11:26 PM
Rasczak

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Originally Posted by Artemis Shrikes

you are very far from beating the game

/Shrug. In truth, Trion already beat the game.

Beat it black and blue, that is.
08-16-2013, 06:16 AM
drackiller

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Originally Posted by IAMREALITY

Oh, I'm totally still playing the rest of the side missions. I meant finished the main story. Figured my intent was obvious, but then, I have a feeling the other poster knew damn well what I meant, and just thinks he's cool by making some stupid point with no relevance.

I agree with you that NIM fight should have been better rewarded.
The reward that we get from beating him is pathetic at best.
08-16-2013, 08:06 AM
Elric1

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Originally Posted by Cyan

No. You did not beat defiance.

Its not a static single player game.

hate to bust your bubble but I have seen single player games less static than defiance and YES you can beat defiance. it's all relative of what is beaten to you. You can beat wow. You can beat SWTOR. Trust me after Grom WoW will be boring as hell til the next expansion when the beaten portion is set higher.

Tired of people saying these games can't be beaten. That is a such an unrealistic falsehood I balk people even believe such tripe.

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