Raw Gulanite Issue

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Originally Posted by ICantAim

In normal time (not during an event), we're all overflowing with RG. Spending PG on orange stuff, protos and crystals, we run out of PG before we run out of RG. The ration is usually more than 40PG for each RG, on a typical day we get 60PG, so we spend 1 or 2 RG, while getting 3-5. At some point we all end up wasting RG on white box, but most of the time we can log off with 3-5 RG.

But during this event, we acquire PG faster than we (should be) acquire RG. We get 72 PG per day, and spend it on 99 cache that cost 12PG, so we could in theory buy 6 of them. But we don't typically get 6 RG, so we actually need to do extra stuff, and even then, we usually all log off with 0 RG.

So the cap isn't the problem. We never hit the RG cap, even when things are working correctly, we run out of RG. So when things don't work correctly, we just do our bounties/contracts and after a while we figure out "Hey, I'm still out of RG!! Wtf I should have got a few since I logged in!!"

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Totally agree with you.... I am driving around doing road blocks... 2 x volge roadblocks gives me 8 fragments... quicker than doing a siege or even a final.
I am just going to finals to really open up those 99 boxes now... Not really interested in doing the whole major to kill over 200 enemies to get top spot, but I have been there.... There is no incentive for me doing whole majors, or whole finals.... while I drive round doing roadblocks, or quickly going to sieges to catch a raw gulanite so I can open a 99 box...



Wonder how many other people are in this position.


Some of my clanmates wondered why I was always running around trying to get raw... because they did not need to and always had raw from the finals...



Inequality ............. amongst the players is wrong...



This also does not relate to the 99 event by the way... It has happened for the last few events... I have just never raised it... but I am now.

Now my ticket has been marked as solved.......................

I have been following this thread and it seems like you (Ctss3xxy) have reached the stage where players get stuck: where they get passed from one department to another (back and forth), and no progress seems to be made :(. I've read about similar experiences on the forum and it can obviously and understandably be rather frustrating. To me, it seems that it happens when CS reach their natural limit (CS can make simple adjustments to the database and adjust values like currencies, but obviously they cannot touch the source code).

I was just wondering (from your messages to CS), that you might be under the impression that the Dev Team are able to fix this issue / bug ... because of Guider's case.

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

Please speak with Erinnyes... as this has been posted in Forums - and especially Guider (a player) has been fixed

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Unfortunately, they are not able to fix this issue for anyone (yet):

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Originally Posted by erinnyes

As I mentioned I have reported this issue to the team. Though, they are having some problems recreating this bug. If you have any further details to help us recreate is it would be great!

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In Guider's case, the bug fixed itself ... the Dev Team didn't do anything:

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Originally Posted by erinnyes

And @Guider, did you do anything in particular before it automatically fixed itself?

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Just wanted to highlight that point (just in case), to help manage any expectations of a fix, any time soon.
Otherwise, I think some people might be thinking to themselves: "It's not fair, they fixed it for Guider but not for me."
The fact is, they didn't fix it for Guider (or apparently anyone else) either, it just fixed itself.

Still hoping that the Dev Team can find the cause of this bug and come up with a fix for everyone affected by it.

I understand what you are saying in your Light Energy, but I also do understand that Guider was fixed by itself... and I know that people will have certain bugs that are caused by different circumstances.


I also suffered with the NO REWARD screen and the fix for that was doing a hot shot and getting a medal... (in my case).


I also discussed this No Reward bug with Zephkial who looked into it, and explained the reasons behind it... and I think this led to the timer when sieges are ended now... I have also not seen any more instance of No Rewards. So I am happy that seems to have been fixed.


As suggested by the CS in the ticket, I have now created a new thread and just copied over the ticket. I did reference the issue guider also had, but that thread was also used by other people including myself to advise that we had the same issue. Erinnyes even asked and so I used that thread. Now ... a new thread has been created so hope something will be worked out.... If Devs even want to know what I do, or how I play then I am happy to answer any questions.

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

I understand what you are saying in your Light Energy, but I also do understand that Guider was fixed by itself... and I know that people will have certain bugs that are caused by different circumstances.


I also suffered with the NO REWARD screen and the fix for that was doing a hot shot and getting a medal... (in my case).


I also discussed this No Reward bug with Zephkial who looked into it, and explained the reasons behind it... and I think this led to the timer when sieges are ended now... I have also not seen any more instance of No Rewards. So I am happy that seems to have been fixed.


As suggested by the CS in the ticket, I have now created a new thread and just copied over the ticket. I did reference the issue guider also had, but that thread was also used by other people including myself to advise that we had the same issue. Erinnyes even asked and so I used that thread. Now ... a new thread has been created so hope something will be worked out.... If Devs even want to know what I do, or how I play then I am happy to answer any questions.

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If The Few Ark Hunters Within The Ark Hunter Association...., (Looks At Ctss3xxy), Requesting Private Audiences, collecting Dialogue Data Pages Only To Reuse Them, putting Vote Of Confidence in a Cross Fire, for intentional Future Campaigns, what's going to take place, (though Central Knows the answer), when Wolf cried Wolf too often?, for that Game Traveler?

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

I understand what you are saying in your Light Energy

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Great! :)

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

but I also do understand that Guider was fixed by itself...

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Yeah. Software does that sometimes :D

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

and I know that people will have certain bugs that are caused by different circumstances.

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Yes, that is also true. Hopefully the Raw Gulanite bug has only one root cause. That should make it a bit easier to fix. :)

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

I also suffered with the NO REWARD screen and the fix for that was doing a hot shot and getting a medal... (in my case).

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Ah I see, glad you able to fix it :). As Ryu has mentioned elsewhere, the Hotshots don't seem to end properly. I have found the instance doesn't exit, so I always need to teleport away to get back into the normal open world. If I "fail" a Hotshot (like say the allies I'm supposed to protect die) then I see the "No Reward" screen (as one would expect). I guess that the game sometimes gets stuck in that state ... and the way to leave that state it is to get a medal.

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

I also discussed this No Reward bug with Zephkial who looked into it, and explained the reasons behind it...

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Aha good. I still kinda wish he split his game time between PC NA and PC EU :D, it seems NA sometimes got some "insider info" that the rest were never privy to AFAIK :eek: ... never saw him on EU. That's always been one of the downsides of "one to one" meetings with Devs etc. Unless the players concerned post the info somewhere publicly (on the forum or Defiance Data, like when they published interviews on Defiance Data), everyone else won't have the information. I'm not "blaming" anyone ... just highlighting a particular disadvantage to that way of disseminating information. The livestreams and Forum FAQs had advantages of (at least an attempt to) making information more wildly available :cool:.

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

and I think this led to the timer when sieges are ended now...

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Aha ... yeah. I also think the timer was added to prevent a sudden "kicking out" by the instance. That was happening before and seemed to cause problems for players. I used to find it a little annoying because if there were any ground drops, they would immediately vanish at the end of a siege :eek:. I believe the timer may help players complete that side mission at the Bathhouse.

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

I have also not seen any more instance of No Rewards. So I am happy that seems to have been fixed.

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Ah good :).

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

As suggested by the CS in the ticket, I have now created a new thread and just copied over the ticket. I did reference the issue guider also had, but that thread was also used by other people including myself to advise that we had the same issue. Erinnyes even asked and so I used that thread. Now ... a new thread has been created so hope something will be worked out....

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Ah, okay, cool. Hope so, but based on the current rate of activity (and level of response), I would estimate at least a few months for any fix to be applied (depends on their priorities).

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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

If Devs even want to know what I do, or how I play then I am happy to answer any questions.

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Splendid! Hopefully you can still enjoy other aspects of the game. :)

What im finding really troubling , my clanmate went through this same run around during event horizon, pretty sure he 1st noticed and reported it even before event horizon. Well i havent seen him online since then, he was a vet, im also pretty sure he regularly spent money defiance. And now he is just another former player/ patron. http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...g-RAW-Gulanite

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Originally Posted by David Irwin

What im finding really troubling , my clanmate went through this same run around during event horizon, pretty sure he 1st noticed and reported it even before event horizon. Well i havent seen him online since then, he was a vet, im also pretty sure he regularly spent money defiance. And now he is just another former player/ patron. http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...g-RAW-Gulanite

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yup, I linked his thread as a reference point when I first made this thread. ;) He made a couple of posts in here and that as well, but yeah... :/ hasn't been ingame for awhile now...

Hi all,

the team is still looking into the issue. As I have mentioned before we are having issues with recreating this bug.

Also, kindly stop posting private correspondences with our Customer Support team. This goes against our Privacy Policy.

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Originally Posted by erinnyes

Hi all,

the team is still looking into the issue. As I have mentioned before we are having issues with recreating this bug.

Also, kindly stop posting private correspondences with our Customer Support team. This goes against our Privacy Policy.

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What about the hundereds of other bugs still in game? Achievements still broken(which was mentioned to be fixed with the last update and yet went ignored again). Is the same team looking in to ever fixing these issues too or just going ignored like everyone thinks?

Or let me guess you have passed the info on to the team and they are looking into it. Its about time somebody took responsibility for this game and get it fixed and start gettting players to return. Population is at an all time low and without fixes players wont return and new players wont stick around long enough. Some major games coming out over the next few months meaning you will lose even more players if nothing is fixed by then.

Also the mastery bug that i reprted to you directly which you claimed was already fixed is still present and this was almost 2 months ago that i reported it to you, is this still being looked into to or yet again will i get the same scripted answer that we all get when we report bugs and issues?

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Originally Posted by erinnyes

As I have mentioned before we are having issues with recreating this bug.

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"Shocking"

- Nobody Ever

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Originally Posted by Drakonroo

What about the hundereds of other bugs still in game? Achievements still broken(which was mentioned to be fixed with the last update and yet went ignored again). Is the same team looking in to ever fixing these issues too or just going ignored like everyone thinks?

Or let me guess you have passed the info on to the team and they are looking into it. Its about time somebody took responsibility for this game and get it fixed and start gettting players to return. Population is at an all time low and without fixes players wont return and new players wont stick around long enough. Some major games coming out over the next few months meaning you will lose even more players if nothing is fixed by then.

Also the mastery bug that i reprted to you directly which you claimed was already fixed is still present and this was almost 2 months ago that i reported it to you, is this still being looked into to or yet again will i get the same scripted answer that we all get when we report bugs and issues?

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You missed the Point. Very well, allow Central to relight it....

(The Team is still looking into the Issue. As I mentioned before, we are having issues with recreating this bug.) Point #1

(Also kindly stop posting private correspondences with our Customer Support Team. This goes against our Private Policy. Point #2


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Originally Posted by Ctss3xxy

Totally agree with you.... I am driving around doing road blocks... 2 x volge roadblocks gives me 8 fragments... quicker than doing a siege or even a final.
I am just going to finals to really open up those 99 boxes now... Not really interested in doing the whole major to kill over 200 enemies to get top spot, but I have been there.... There is no incentive for me doing whole majors, or whole finals.... while I drive round doing roadblocks, or quickly going to sieges to catch a raw gulanite so I can open a 99 box...



Wonder how many other people are in this position.


Some of my clanmates wondered why I was always running around trying to get raw... because they did not need to and always had raw from the finals...



Inequality ............. amongst the players is wrong...



This also does not relate to the 99 event by the way... It has happened for the last few events... I have just never raised it... but I am now.

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You can still get top spot just hitting the final. I do it all the time on every arkfalls mjr.

Last time I played a few days ago I did all dailies, and plenty of roadside emergencies on the way. I ended up with 2RG after all was said and done. Usually have 5.