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uhm....maybe I'm simple or something but if you have your doubts than don't pre order and wait till release.....hell most places will refund your money even if you do preorder.....I dont get it what's the big deal? if the game turns out to be a dud than get your money back and move on to the next one...there's more to worry about in life than if a game is going to be great or not.
The NDA has more to do with the TV Series, than the game itself.
I don't buy the it's the TV show excuse. Even if there are things in the game that relate to the events in the show, How would we know? We haven't seen the show yet to know who or what they are talking about... Besides turning quest content off is a simple thing. At launch the concerns are more global to game play, and class or in Defiance's case ability balance.
The Game is 36 Days from Launch. To still be under an NDA at this point is worrisome to those of us familar with the MMO genre. At this point if you want a clean launch you should be pretty much done with global mechanics. You should be stress testing and balance testing at worst.
It's possible that they are and have decided that it's better to have things revealed at launch. Hopefully that is the case, but as someone who has been playing MMOs since EQ, It makes me nervous.
If it's one thing my friends who code on major MMO titles have taught me it's you never really know what is going to happen until the code gets run live and the Player Base attacks with impunity.
That's why they run alpha 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yunlaw
What games are you referring to? Having alpha/beta tested plenty of MMO's I think they've actually given the community lots of information. Between the live streams and information on the website there really isn't that much still "in the dark" so to speak. Yes you may not have every particular, but release is still 3 weeks away. GW2 didn't lift their NDA until it actually had the small open beta very shortly before release, and still those of us that alpha tested and saw more of the higher tier things couldn't discuss them until after the release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bornhald
there is no such thing as a "clean launch" in the mmo industry. there are always problems. and i would bet any money this wont be an exception, purely because its always the case.
the NDA im sure has more reason beyond the tv show, im just suggesting that as A reason. Trion (as im sure you are aware) are old hands at this. they know the risk of not release inthe NDA, they will also know a lack of pre-orders will happen because of it. so im sure they have their reasons.
wether its to do with the tv side of things, or because they are always making changes and dont wish to get into trouble. bare in mind this is a TPS, so balancing will most likely be taking place right up to the final day. i can see a ton of people crying for refunds, because inthe open beta their favourite weapon got nerfed. because although alot of people have the intellect to realise whats a beta, there is just as many who treat it as a demo.
I have a feeling that the first hour or two of DtG (Defiance the Game), will include major spoilers for DtS(Defiance the Show).
especially since apparently, we meet Jeb Nolan and Irisa, the two main protagonists of DtS, almost immediately after character creation.
main concern is regional/international connectivity/play-ability with other "friends" per consoles. Gonna make a big difference if 1/2 of your friends are unable to play.
Also, why is the shard system so different, what is wrong with designated servers? wouldnt that foster a better "rivalry" between sides per se? Also have a cause and affect on a world scale, instead of "im done w this shard, im gone to another". Its like bar hoping without getting to know the regulars of one.
It has nothing to do with the first hour. We have seen the first hour in many different videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMadFour
youve seen the first hour of game play. doesnt mean you've seen the first hours worth of content :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZurkaFiend
I believe they said that the appearance of those two characters has their story roll into the first episode of the show so its not spoiling anything. Im sure theyve thought this through hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by JMadFour
Go to 3 minutes in I know this is a bit old and some may have seen it but I thought this was interesting and forgot about it. Just though some might find it very interesting when they mention that player names and guild names could be mentioned in the show as well.
http://youtu.be/uule_TmhU7M?t=3m
^^ This ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead_Phoenix
There's been quite a few cuts and "skipping this cutscene" moments in most of the official gameplay vids and most of the leaks are less than an hour long. That and the fact that most of the official vids are from older alpha server builds that can and are manipulated any way the devs see fit. Have to remember Trion is only going to allow us to see what they want us to see until release. Even what the alpha/beta testers see is not necessarily what we'll see come release day.
I didn't know angry Joe interviewed Rob Hill. Thanks for the find dude!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Raizell_Hunter
jeez how did i miss that one! im off to watch that nowQuote:
Originally Posted by StickyChief
I thought you guys might want to see it to bad its like 8 months old now but still.
Here it is again.
http://youtu.be/uule_TmhU7M?t=3m
All your questions shall be answered in due time or better yet...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRL9FbJXVXM
big fan of angry joe. one of my favourite reviewers. glad to here hes excitedQuote:
Originally Posted by Raizell_Hunter
Tho that has been answered I'm still waiting on a fixed number of members that can be in a guild. I know at least 50 but I got 60 members now and more on hold waiting to break down my doors. This has nothing to to with the plot so I don't see why i can't get a fix on this. I mean just throw 200 or 150 and if need be change it in the first addon. I just want to hit the ground running but its hard when i don't have all the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead_Phoenix
thats a fair point. next time we can pin down a dev, like on livestream, or a CM decides to join us. will try and get it answered. we need Rokkrwolf or Archangel, they seem to be a direct hotline :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr666
i would be willing to bet the response is they are still fine tuning details
People People People..... the dam game is coming jeeessshh every recent thread Ive seen is some 1 complaining about the game. Dam shame >.>
I just hope it's done tastefully. It seems very easy for it to be done poorly (going game => show I mean) and seem like a cheesy shout out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raizell_Hunter
It's not the time, it's sheer mass of players and the random **** they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrox