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  • 03-09-2013, 03:12 PM
    Foxhop
    Please do this Right. (Suggestions)
    Howdy! I've been gaming for some time now and have seen some amazing titles as well as some amazing flops, and over the years, patterns have become more and more obvious when dealing with what makes up a good game compared to..well, the not so good. However, I'm not going to poke at the content, I'm sure there are already a million threads about it, no- rather I'm going to rant about the mindset behind the game because to be honest, this game looks pretty good from what we have seen and if it really is as amazing as it looks, then it begins to fall onto the ambition of the team to keep us interested and happy with the product. So! Without further ado, let the hastily written novel begin!

    So, first off! Don't get greedy. (Also- Don't Panic, but that is covered by a more reputable source.) You make a good game and we will happily throw our money at you. Build a money grab like what so many MMO's(/fps) are becoming, and well- we know when we are getting ripped off. Sure you might stay afloat with the folks intrigued by the new game, but in order to keep them playing, the focus needs to be put on 'how can we make this game better' instead of 'how can we make more from this'.

    Speaking of money grabs, please don't turn this into just anoher pay-2-win type of game. I mean- of course there will be the pre-order bonuses, etc etc, but once the game has players leaning on 'OP' items they got from a marketplace/itemstore/armas, it wont be long until you start losing folks simply due to frustration (APB is a good example). If a marketplace is implemented, let it be filled with more cosmetic sort of things! Things that don't give you an advantage over everyone else... (I'm looking at -you- typewriter.)

    Next...LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY! After playing Bioware's ToRtanic and facing probably the worst customer support and dev carelessness in my life, I can't express this enough. We want to hear from the team and know what is going on and we hope that you will in turn listen to us and our suggestions. Just take hints from Bioware...and by that I mean avoid doing anything they did in the realm of customer support and...well, interaction in general. That includes: Disregarding the players with a 'I'm the dev, I know what you want' mindset and going headlong into things nobody actually wants, remaining silent in regards to bugs/exploits/balance (we actually do like to know if these things are being dealt with) and please actually deal with said bugs/exploits/balance! No cover ups and work-arounds to an issue. (Again, ToRtanic.) Admit and fix, we won't hate you. :)

    On the other hand, don't just change everything to make the loud happy. MMO is forum QQ territory. :P

    And lastly (though I normally don't suggest this because it's often the opposite issue of what companies have), advertise some more! I mean it! I only just heard of this game and of the people I know, only one other had heard of the title as well! Throw some banners in Youtube, some commercials on tv, get us interested. It is only a month until the scheduled release and the steam pre-orders are at 10% of the 'expected' number...10% as of 3/9/2013. I hope this changes as we near the 2nd, but so far, this game seems pretty well hidden for those not scouring for a new game.

    This game looks like it has some promise and it would be a shame for it to become just another 2012-2013 MMO statistic. Please do this right.

    ...Now if only the devs actually read these things... <<
  • 03-09-2013, 03:17 PM
    Dead_Phoenix
    just wanted to say that was a nice read thankyou. clearly an old hand :)

    hopefully they will already know this and be reading your post with the "already planned that" approach :)
  • 03-09-2013, 03:18 PM
    Raizell_Hunter
    FYI, Steam did just start doing pre-orders like 4 days ago.
  • 03-09-2013, 03:26 PM
    Foxhop
    Oh did it? I had just heard about this game yesterday so I am a tad late to the party. ^_^;
    (I wonder how many are waiting for others to pre-order so they can get t3 bonuses as well...)
  • 03-09-2013, 03:37 PM
    Raizell_Hunter
    I would gather a decent number I am one of them. Although if we don't get the other stuff thats cool also. The rest of your post was nice though. Welcome to the community also.
  • 03-09-2013, 03:48 PM
    Foxhop
    I fear I am too..maybe...Don't want that sniper to get away on steam.. :p And thank you!
  • 03-09-2013, 03:51 PM
    mushinwolf
    These days most of Biowares problems-like so many other developers-are down to the EA effect :(
  • 03-09-2013, 04:08 PM
    Foxhop
    Hopefully that just gives other companies a 'what not to do' when creating/running their games...
    Even though I have watched company after company and game after game fall into the same pitfalls... -.-;

    To be honest, I am still a tad worried as to this games future despite what I have seen, but I'm going to give i a try and hopefully they prove my fears to be nothing. <<
  • 03-09-2013, 04:09 PM
    Roger911
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mushinwolf View Post
    These days most of Biowares problems-like so many other developers-are down to the EA effect :(

    Sad but true... EA has been destroying their name for years now, but it hasn't been so bad until the last couple years. Funny thing is, they teamed up with microsoft for their xbox 720 project while steam turned around and decided to directly support Linux.

    During a time where the majority of the population is seeing money problems, Trying to grab said peoples money is a good way to sink your ship.

    Also, Not many people who have been following defiance want to pre-order on steam for 2 reasons. 1, they already pre-ordered with trion. 2, You can't connect your steam account with a trion account, and that means you don't get arkfall code rewards with them. So unless steam reaches their 100% margin for all 3 pre-order bonuses, you're better off sticking with trion and punching in some arkfall codes.
  • 03-09-2013, 04:22 PM
    Foxhop
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Roger911 View Post

    During a time where the majority of the population is seeing money problems, Trying to grab said peoples money is a good way to sink your ship.

    You can't connect your steam account with a trion account, and that means you don't get arkfall code rewards with them.

    Good way of putting it. It's a shame though that I can't pre-order through steam and connect the two... I guess it makes sense...that -would- be quite the pile of rewards. :p
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