Lack of progression will push people away.

Please don't get me wrong, this isn't a "I'm leaving" post, but I am looking for a bit of a pep talk. The face is, there is little to no difference between an ego 300 and ego 10. While this is nice for being able to play with other people lower and higher levels, its frustrating because I feel like I'm just spinning my tires. I'm only at EGO 420 or so but the guns I'm finding are EXACTLY the same as the ones I found at 10, 20, 80, 100, etc. Other than story, I'm having a hard time getting motivated to play.

And IF by some chance you do find a gun you enjoy, you only get it for a limited time because the game forces you to use different guns once they're maxed out in XP if you want to gain anymore weapon XP. How does that make ANY sense??

Without any sense of progression people aren't going to be playing this game long. Look at other games, especially MMO's, you have to have SOMETHING that makes people come back for more. Unless I'm missing something, Defiance is missing that hook that makes people stay with a game for an extended period of time.

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Originally Posted by Frost033

Please don't get me wrong, this isn't a "I'm leaving" post, but I am looking for a bit of a pep talk. The face is, there is little to no difference between an ego 300 and ego 10. While this is nice for being able to play with other people lower and higher levels, its frustrating because I feel like I'm just spinning my tires. I'm only at EGO 420 or so but the guns I'm finding are EXACTLY the same as the ones I found at 10, 20, 80, 100, etc. Other than story, I'm having a hard time getting motivated to play.

And IF by some chance you do find a gun you enjoy, you only get it for a limited time because the game forces you to use different guns once they're maxed out in XP if you want to gain anymore weapon XP. How does that make ANY sense??

Without any sense of progression people aren't going to be playing this game long. Look at other games, especially MMO's, you have to have SOMETHING that makes people come back for more. Unless I'm missing something, Defiance is missing that hook that makes people stay with a game for an extended period of time.

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Not sure what kind of progression you're looking for. This game has plenty of progression. If you want to pull a trigger and do 9999 dmg to everything in 10 m radius you should pay 15 dollar a month and go play WoW

AMEN Brother.

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Originally Posted by Atticus Finch

Not sure what kind of progression you're looking for. This game has plenty of progression. If you want to pull a trigger and do 9999 dmg to everything in 10 m radius you should pay 15 dollar a month and go play WoW

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Oh no the game is so awesome cause rank 10 EGOs weapons do the same as rank 1000, that's super cool and balanced. I especially love it in all those PVP modes......Get real.

OK read this well...

Once you get to 20 you do not need to keep getting rid of weapons. You can always keep your favorite and use it when you want or during Arkfalls since you don't gain weapon exp for most of them.

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Originally Posted by DeMoted

OK read this well...

Once you get to 20 you do not need to keep getting rid of weapons. You can always keep your favorite and use it when you want or during Arkfalls since you don't gain weapon exp for most of them.

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OMG AWESOME! I will do that man thanks, Ill have fun mindlessly blasting through all 4 of the arkfalls for weeks and weeks and months until more are added, SAWEET.

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Originally Posted by Frost033

Please don't get me wrong, this isn't a "I'm leaving" post, but I am looking for a bit of a pep talk. The face is, there is little to no difference between an ego 300 and ego 10. While this is nice for being able to play with other people lower and higher levels, its frustrating because I feel like I'm just spinning my tires. I'm only at EGO 420 or so but the guns I'm finding are EXACTLY the same as the ones I found at 10, 20, 80, 100, etc. Other than story, I'm having a hard time getting motivated to play.

And IF by some chance you do find a gun you enjoy, you only get it for a limited time because the game forces you to use different guns once they're maxed out in XP if you want to gain anymore weapon XP. How does that make ANY sense??

Without any sense of progression people aren't going to be playing this game long. Look at other games, especially MMO's, you have to have SOMETHING that makes people come back for more. Unless I'm missing something, Defiance is missing that hook that makes people stay with a game for an extended period of time.

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When you posted this thread, you should have automatically assumed someone is going to tell you to go play WOW! Your not allowed to have an opinion unless its either saying how much you can stop playing, or how much you love the game.

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Originally Posted by Zeroexit

Oh no the game is so awesome cause rank 10 EGOs weapons do the same as rank 1000, that's super cool and balanced. I especially love it in all those PVP modes......Get real.

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Get back to me when you see a pvp game full of 10 EGO people with purple and orange gear.

Get real.

Its a really simplistic look at the game. Look at weapons having the same base stats, and not feeling stronger because theres no level 1 noob mobs for you to stomp.

Theres a lot of progression in weapon skills. The weapons do get better.

Your EGO 300 character is a level 3 character in a game with 60 levels. Think about that when you complain how your level 300 doesn't feel much stronger than a level 10 in this game. 5000 ego levels in total, so don't expect night and day differences between 300 levels...and I wouldn't expect a ton of difference between a level 900 and 5000, granted the 5k will have more perk options to choose from and probably more weapons maxed.

If you want a game like that feel free to play any of the countless mmorpgs out there that have you grind for gear and levels to compete.

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Originally Posted by DeMoted

OK read this well...

Once you get to 20 you do not need to keep getting rid of weapons. You can always keep your favorite and use it when you want or during Arkfalls since you don't gain weapon exp for most of them.

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Shhhh... demoted, don't give away the pro-tips too early to these guys. They're still trying to figure out how to get the 9999 dmg gun